What happens to unborn babies?

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Anonymous wrote:They are probably been reincarnated as an advanced species living in a very beautiful and unpolluted planet.

If the species is truly advanced, I bet there is no religion.

Yes, there is no religion. Only Truth. The Sanatan Truth and the Sanatan way of life.

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Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

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Anonymous wrote:I hold to the Orthodox view of original sin, i.e. the unborn inherit the consequences of sin (mortality and death) but are not considered guilty. In Christian eschatology, the immediate afterlife is just a temporary waiting place and we all await bodily resurrection at Christ's return. God is gracious and merciful; you can entrust your children to God.

You don't have to wait for the 2nd coming to go to heaven.

You've missed the point.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Yes, and yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Estimates vary, but 10% to 20% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage before 20 weeks. The rate is higher when including very early losses that occur before a person knows they are pregnant.

Do all these unborn babies remain basically clumps of cells? Do they grow in heaven? Do they remain adolescents forever?

That would be more like hell to never be able to mature into an adult or have the experience of childhood and growing up.

A related question. For those who believe they will see their loved ones in heaven, what state will they be in? Will your mother be fit and beautiful in her 30s or will she be 85 with dementia and other ailments and unable to recognize you?

souls don't have bodies.

Souls are bodies, not separate from them.

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Anonymous wrote:I hold to the Orthodox view of original sin, i.e. the unborn inherit the consequences of sin (mortality and death) but are not considered guilty. In Christian eschatology, the immediate afterlife is just a temporary waiting place and we all await bodily resurrection at Christ's return. God is gracious and merciful; you can entrust your children to God.

You don't have to wait for the 2nd coming to go to heaven.

I believe in the Christian concept of Apokatastasis, the restoration and renewal of all things in the physical world. While I believe there is a temporary place of comfort immediately following death, the point isn't for your disembodied soul to be in a disembodied "heaven" for eternity. When Jesus talks about the Kingdom of Heaven, he is not talking about disembodied souls going elsewhere, but he is talking about heaven come down to earth, which commenced with the resurrection of Christ and will be completed at his future return. That is the new heaven and the new earth, and why we pray "on earth as it is in heaven." Jesus came to save us from physical death and bring us eternal life. To misunderstand heaven is to misunderstand the meaning and significance of Christ's bodily resurrection.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

What about people killed in mass shootings - at church?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

What about people killed in mass shootings - at church?

The OP is bereaved. Why not start a new thread to grind an axe about religion/God?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

What about people killed in mass shootings - at church?

The OP is bereaved. Why not start a new thread to grind an axe about religion/God?

It's not an axe to grind about religion/god. It's in today's news. A mass shooting in a Catholic Church. I bet they all went straight to heaven. Except the shooter, who went to hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.

I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.

I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.

The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I was raised Catholic and was told the unborn babies are in purgatory.

limbo

St Thomas said a fetus is not a baby until quickening with is 40 days for females and 90 days for males. So there is no soul to meet until that time. I don't think he got the timing right but I do thing there is a point a fetus has a soul.

A soul has salvation if it does not get baptized at no fault of their own. (Limbo was never official Catholic doctrine but was fun while it lasted)

I believe certain souls choose a short life, so they were alive as long as they wanted to be.

I also think this is purgatory and if we get it right we gain salvation (even without baptism, nod to my non Catholic friends) and if we don't we recycle through this world again to try to "get it right". Poor MAGA gonna be going through the cycle for a long time or perhaps they have been going through the cycle for a long time already.

They might be there or maybe they are on a new cycle but you should able to see them in whatever cycle they are currently in if you are in heaven or maybe you will need to do a new cycle. IDK.

How would St Thomas know this? I swear, religions is mostly made up of these old men who make stuff up to suit their purpose.

And I say this as a long time Christian.

Of course it is made up. I’m the responder who is Catholic,

It’s all made up that’s why it’s call belief not facts.

St Thomas was revered and I kinda love his beliefs about it taking longer for males to become human … makes sense. lol

You know at one point in time in the United States the drinking age for women was 18 but for men, it was 21. Doesn’t matter if the Lawn makes sense still discrimination.

It’s made up just like social norms. And laws.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

What about people killed in mass shootings - at church?

The OP is bereaved. Why not start a new thread to grind an axe about religion/God?

It's not an axe to grind about religion/god. It's in today's news. A mass shooting in a Catholic Church. I bet they all went straight to heaven. Except the shooter, who went to hell.

That's not the point of the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Estimates vary, but 10% to 20% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage before 20 weeks. The rate is higher when including very early losses that occur before a person knows they are pregnant.

Do all these unborn babies remain basically clumps of cells? Do they grow in heaven? Do they remain adolescents forever?

That would be more like hell to never be able to mature into an adult or have the experience of childhood and growing up.

A related question. For those who believe they will see their loved ones in heaven, what state will they be in? Will your mother be fit and beautiful in her 30s or will she be 85 with dementia and other ailments and unable to recognize you?

souls don't have bodies.

Souls are bodies, not separate from them.

No souls are not bodies, lol… wtf.

They are very separate from them. The inhabit a body and live in eternity once a body dies.

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Anonymous wrote:Estimates vary, but 10% to 20% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage before 20 weeks. The rate is higher when including very early losses that occur before a person knows they are pregnant.

Do all these unborn babies remain basically clumps of cells? Do they grow in heaven? Do they remain adolescents forever?

That would be more like hell to never be able to mature into an adult or have the experience of childhood and growing up.

A related question. For those who believe they will see their loved ones in heaven, what state will they be in? Will your mother be fit and beautiful in her 30s or will she be 85 with dementia and other ailments and unable to recognize you?

souls don't have bodies.

Souls are bodies, not separate from them.

No souls are not bodies, lol… wtf.

They are very separate from them. The inhabit a body and live in eternity once a body dies.

Not according to the first century Christians.

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I believe babies are just energy in human form. When they die, the energy returns to a formless state, and can recombine into something else, or stay formless.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.