What happens to unborn babies?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe babies are just energy in human form. When they die, the energy returns to a formless state, and can recombine into something else, or stay formless.

This is the most accurate answer. But it’s not formless. It’s just not human form.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

No meeting in their afterlife. You can memorialize your lost pregnancies in your life. You get one. Please, please do not throw away your life in hopes of getting a better one later. Make the best of the one you have.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

Here's what AI has to say about God belief among scientists:

Key findings from surveys:

General Scientists (2009 Pew Survey):
51%: believed in a god or higher power.
33%: believed in God.
18%: believed in a universal spirit or higher power.
41%: did not believe in a god or higher power.

Elite Scientists (1998 Larson and Whitham Survey): Only 7% of scientists in the National Academy of Sciences believed in a personal God. Many scientists in elite groups identify as agnostic or non-believers.

Reasons for variations:
Different Definitions: Surveys may use varying definitions of "God," with some scientists believing in a higher power but not a personal God.

Sample Size and Type: Studies focusing on elite or nationally recognized scientists often show lower rates of religious belief compared to broader surveys of the general scientific community.

Time of Study: Beliefs can shift over time, and older studies might not reflect current views.

In summary, while more than half of scientists surveyed by Pew in 2009 expressed belief in a higher power, this figure is significantly lower among elite scientists, highlighting the difference between general scientific populations and those in highly respected scientific organizations.

[Anonymous]

In Islamic faith, parents will be reunited with their miscarried children in the afterlife; a stillborn or miscarried child will wait at the gates of Paradise for its parents, eventually pulling them in. Allah will ensure its parents' entry into Paradise and reunion with the child if they exhibited patience in their grief.

I don't know if it means literal reunion in paradise or used as a metaphor for emotional attainment of peace which feels like being in a paradise with your loved ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

Not really. Doctors see it all, not just the “miracles” but the tragedies too. At some point, when you see enough, you conclude that either God doesn’t exist, or if God does exist, he’s not worth the bother.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

No, it's not nearly as bad as it looks at first glance. In some parts of the country, especially 10+ years ago, there was cultural pressure to say you were religious. The 50% figure was likely a gross exaggeration back in 2014, and will certainly be far smaller today given that the major of non-elderly people are are openly nonreligious.

Don't worry, your doctors probably aren't in any cults.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

No, it's not nearly as bad as it looks at first glance. In some parts of the country, especially 10+ years ago, there was cultural pressure to say you were religious. The 50% figure was likely a gross exaggeration back in 2014, and will certainly be far smaller today given that the major of non-elderly people are are openly nonreligious.

Don't worry, your doctors probably aren't in any cults.

And your doctors should be up on all the latest science, which is what you want in a doctor

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

No, it's not nearly as bad as it looks at first glance. In some parts of the country, especially 10+ years ago, there was cultural pressure to say you were religious. The 50% figure was likely a gross exaggeration back in 2014, and will certainly be far smaller today given that the major of non-elderly people are are openly nonreligious.

Don't worry, your doctors probably aren't in any cults.

The majority of non-elderly people may not be religious, but most of them are not talking openly about it. They tend to be respectful of religious people IRL, which is more than you can say about the way religious people treat people who are openly non-believing.

e.g., it's OK to speculate about what happens to unborn babies from a religious point of view, but is considered rude to say that they just die like everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

No, it's not nearly as bad as it looks at first glance. In some parts of the country, especially 10+ years ago, there was cultural pressure to say you were religious. The 50% figure was likely a gross exaggeration back in 2014, and will certainly be far smaller today given that the major of non-elderly people are are openly nonreligious.

Don't worry, your doctors probably aren't in any cults.

The majority of non-elderly people may not be religious, but most of them are not talking openly about it. They tend to be respectful of religious people IRL, which is more than you can say about the way religious people treat people who are openly non-believing.

e.g., it's OK to speculate about what happens to unborn babies from a religious point of view, but is considered rude to say that they just die like everyone else.

It depends on the context, but it is basically like telling an 8 year old there's no Santa. At that age they probably know better, but are trying to delude themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

No it is not "sad"
Science is a thing idiot

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, but meanwhile, Catholic children will be shot at during a back-to-school mass

The shooter was also anti-Catholic and mad at God as you seem to be. Perhaps you could provide insight for us into why his anger at God / religion / Catholicism led him to commit such crimes?

Given that the Catholic Church does not protect children, one can see why many are against the Catholic church. I grew up in a parish where the priests were moved in and out, and the church knew they hurt children. We even had nuns who were beyond horrifying to kids. The church just looked the other way for years and years.

The church is still protecting the criminals and not the innocent by paying for lawsuits.

All Religions are drinking the Kool-Aid grifts. Especially the more conservative they are. As for the unborn, science is the answer not religion.

Science has the answer for the unborn? What’s the answer?

Well, science is much more likely to keep a baby alive than religion. I'm not sure why you worship an alleged being that has so much disdain for you.

You didn’t answer the question.

What's the question?

A poster said science has the answer for unborn babies. They never answered.

I'm not the Kool-Aid poster, and I don't know what either of you of meant by the "answer." But if I was worried about the survival of an unborn baby I would take science and modern medical treatments over prayer.

It's not an either or. Literally no one is forced to choose between those things. You can put your child in the hands of the very best surgeons you can find, and then pray in the waiting room. Or have a bedtime routine where you give your child a breathing treatment and then say prayers together.

What? You don't trust god to watch out for the well-being of your child?

I trust God to have created a world that includes wonders like modern medicine.

And most of the doctors don't believe in God themselves. Ask them, if it matters to you.

PP you quoted here.

I would never ask my child’s doctor their religious beliefs, just like I would never share my religious beliefs in a professional context. But NIH says that you are wrong.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/

This study, cited in pubmed, is from February 2017 - almost 9 years ago. You can bet that more doctors are non-believers now and that more doctors are willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in God.

That's really sad.

Not really. Doctors see it all, not just the “miracles” but the tragedies too. At some point, when you see enough, you conclude that either God doesn’t exist, or if God does exist, he’s not worth the bother.

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There are no unborn babies.

Even if there were Republicans want them dead.

Anyone bringing a child into the US now is insane and a horrible human.