DOGE staffer wrecked in DC, Trump threatening to federalize DC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Staged?

Just in case returning the statue of Pike doesn't do the trick. I hope people don't respond. Take deep breaths. Give it the finger. But don't protest or Trump will have an excuse to take over DC.

Federalizing DC would dominate the news cycle…

Nah, people outside DC don’t care about DC. It would be a blip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So two Ward 9 teens might be the reason we end up with US military on DC streets and eventually lose home rule. Thanks.

Fixed that for you.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of attackers is not known. Witnesses (Big Balls and his girlfriend) said ten, which is why it was in the police report. This has not been verified and is not in the official MPD press release on the incident. Only two attackers were arrested, two 15 yr olds (one male and one female, both from Hyattsville).

Here is the MPD's statement:

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/mpd-makes-two-arrests-swann-street-attempted-carjacking

That is not true. The police report said officers observed approximately 10 attackers.

Again, not verified. People often do a bad job of estimating things like this (the number of gunshots, the number of people present, etc.). Yes, even cops. The ultimately arrested two people. We have know idea if the other people present were attackers or onlookers at this point, and the fact that they scattered when the cops showed up is not evidence of guilt, but is to be expected.

I have seen wild speculation about the number of attackers and the nature of the attack on Twitter and would just caution people to wait and see how it unfolds. You weren't there, you don't know.

The police stated # of attackers was 10, dummy.

Wrong. Teen boy and girl were arrested.

Not wrong, read the police report. While the police were only able to arrest two, there were others there who fled quickly. About 10 in all, according to the police. Again, read the police report before commenting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The teens were from Maryland. Why should DC suffer federalization because of Maryland teens?

Are you stupid, or are you just arguing in bad faith?

They come here to commit crimes because they know they will face no consequences. These aren’t the first Maryland kids to come over for a night of carjacking, robbery, and the occasional murder. Plus, the DC kids are the worst and most sociopathic of the bunch.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of attackers is not known. Witnesses (Big Balls and his girlfriend) said ten, which is why it was in the police report. This has not been verified and is not in the official MPD press release on the incident. Only two attackers were arrested, two 15 yr olds (one male and one female, both from Hyattsville).

Here is the MPD's statement:

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/mpd-makes-two-arrests-swann-street-attempted-carjacking

That is not true. The police report said officers observed approximately 10 attackers.

Again, not verified. People often do a bad job of estimating things like this (the number of gunshots, the number of people present, etc.). Yes, even cops. The ultimately arrested two people. We have know idea if the other people present were attackers or onlookers at this point, and the fact that they scattered when the cops showed up is not evidence of guilt, but is to be expected.

I have seen wild speculation about the number of attackers and the nature of the attack on Twitter and would just caution people to wait and see how it unfolds. You weren't there, you don't know.

The police stated # of attackers was 10, dummy.

Wrong. Teen boy and girl were arrested.

Not wrong, read the police report. While the police were only able to arrest two, there were others there who fled quickly. About 10 in all, according to the police. Again, read the police report before commenting.

DP. The police report is vague. It states that cops saw "approximately" ten people standing around a car "and attacking" the victims. This is a vague statement. Were all ten people attacking? Were some just standing there? Were some yelling? What were they yelling (were they egging the attackers on or were they upset? We don't know, and it's actually possible the cops don't even know. They saw a group of kids, some of them were clearly attacking this guy, most of them fled when the cops showed up, and two were arrested and IDed by the victims as attackers. The police report was drafted without any investigation, just a brief ID and statement from the victims.

We don't actually know what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s hard to fault MOD here. They were policing on the scene and responded immediately.
I’m not really sure what the solution is for these juvenile crimes. Are other big cities trying 15 year olds as adults for these things? I just don’t know. I agree some of these teens seem to act with impunity and are apparently sociopathic.

Yes. While we may say that a 15 year old brain is not fully developed, a 15 year old who is not mentally deficient absolutely knows right from wrong.
These teens know their records will be wiped clean when they reach a given age. That practice should absolutely be halted.

It's not about knowing right from wrong -- it's about impulse control and understanding that the future will actually arrive, knowing how to plan ahead etc. To treat a 15 year old as an adult because of the severity of their crime is just insanity. We are better -- and smarter -- than that. Throw all the therapy we can at them while incarcerated and raise the age of release to 24. But don't treat them like adults. THAT is criminal.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of attackers is not known. Witnesses (Big Balls and his girlfriend) said ten, which is why it was in the police report. This has not been verified and is not in the official MPD press release on the incident. Only two attackers were arrested, two 15 yr olds (one male and one female, both from Hyattsville).

Here is the MPD's statement:

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/mpd-makes-two-arrests-swann-street-attempted-carjacking

That is not true. The police report said officers observed approximately 10 attackers.

Again, not verified. People often do a bad job of estimating things like this (the number of gunshots, the number of people present, etc.). Yes, even cops. The ultimately arrested two people. We have know idea if the other people present were attackers or onlookers at this point, and the fact that they scattered when the cops showed up is not evidence of guilt, but is to be expected.

I have seen wild speculation about the number of attackers and the nature of the attack on Twitter and would just caution people to wait and see how it unfolds. You weren't there, you don't know.

The police stated # of attackers was 10, dummy.

Wrong. Teen boy and girl were arrested.

Not wrong, read the police report. While the police were only able to arrest two, there were others there who fled quickly. About 10 in all, according to the police. Again, read the police report before commenting.

DP. The police report is vague. It states that cops saw "approximately" ten people standing around a car "and attacking" the victims. This is a vague statement. Were all ten people attacking? Were some just standing there? Were some yelling? What were they yelling (were they egging the attackers on or were they upset? We don't know, and it's actually possible the cops don't even know. They saw a group of kids, some of them were clearly attacking this guy, most of them fled when the cops showed up, and two were arrested and IDed by the victims as attackers. The police report was drafted without any investigation, just a brief ID and statement from the victims.

We don't actually know what happened.

Also in the press release from the MPD, it only mentions two suspects, doesn't mention a group of attackers at all, and asks for anyone who knows anything to contact the police. No mention of looking for additional suspects. So even the cops may believe the other people present to be potential witnesses, not potential suspects. The cops don't really know what happened yet.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:The victim appears to be the famous Big Balls. He was beaten and is pretty bloody in the picture Trump posted.

I don’t believe for a minute that this happened.

[Anonymous]

There’s not much DC can control as we head into these uncharted economic headwinds. The one thing, and perhaps the only thing, DC can try to control is the youth crime problem. We can probably survive downsizing of the federal government but we cannot simultaneously survive contraction of tourism. The youth curfews are a step in the right direction. But in the absence of enough MPD officers we need the zag and court system to behind to seek and deliver sustained deterrent sentencing.

[Anonymous]

It seems staged.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:The victim appears to be the famous Big Balls. He was beaten and is pretty bloody in the picture Trump posted.

I don’t believe for a minute that this happened.

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I also think there’s something very fishy.

I swear that when I first heard that this kid (henceforth Little Balls) got beat up, I honestly thought it was by a group of angry ex-feds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s hard to fault MOD here. They were policing on the scene and responded immediately.
I’m not really sure what the solution is for these juvenile crimes. Are other big cities trying 15 year olds as adults for these things? I just don’t know. I agree some of these teens seem to act with impunity and are apparently sociopathic.

Yes. While we may say that a 15 year old brain is not fully developed, a 15 year old who is not mentally deficient absolutely knows right from wrong.
These teens know their records will be wiped clean when they reach a given age. That practice should absolutely be halted.

It's not about knowing right from wrong -- it's about impulse control and understanding that the future will actually arrive, knowing how to plan ahead etc. To treat a 15 year old as an adult because of the severity of their crime is just insanity. We are better -- and smarter -- than that. Throw all the therapy we can at them while incarcerated and raise the age of release to 24. But don't treat them like adults. THAT is criminal.

I have mixed feelings about this. First, there is little evidence that "throwing therapy" at incarcerated teens lowers recidivism rates. In fact most studies show the opposite -- time in juvie tends to be a major predictor of re-offending.

Also, what keeps most 15 year olds from beating up strangers on the street? Because most don't. I think the main reason most teens don't do it is because they know their parents and community would punish them. Not just stuff like getting arrested or grounding them, but I mean social punishment -- think less of them, trust them less, unfriend them, etc. The fact that social expectations can keep the vast majority of teenagers from just beating people up all the time indicates that it's not actually just about impulsivity. Some, yes -- teenagers are more impulsive than adults. But it's clearly not the whole story.

So what do we do with teens whose families and communities do not offer social punishment for engaging in violent behavior? I don't know the answer, but I'm really asking. I don't think the source of the problem is inside these teens' brains, because if it was, we'd be dealing with this behavior from all teens everywhere. We aren't. So the problem is within the community. How do we fix that?

[Anonymous]

“Teens”

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Anonymous wrote:The number of attackers is not known. Witnesses (Big Balls and his girlfriend) said ten, which is why it was in the police report. This has not been verified and is not in the official MPD press release on the incident. Only two attackers were arrested, two 15 yr olds (one male and one female, both from Hyattsville).

Here is the MPD's statement:

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/mpd-makes-two-arrests-swann-street-attempted-carjacking

That is not true. The police report said officers observed approximately 10 attackers.

Again, not verified. People often do a bad job of estimating things like this (the number of gunshots, the number of people present, etc.). Yes, even cops. The ultimately arrested two people. We have know idea if the other people present were attackers or onlookers at this point, and the fact that they scattered when the cops showed up is not evidence of guilt, but is to be expected.

I have seen wild speculation about the number of attackers and the nature of the attack on Twitter and would just caution people to wait and see how it unfolds. You weren't there, you don't know.

The police stated # of attackers was 10, dummy.

Wrong. Teen boy and girl were arrested.

Not wrong, read the police report. While the police were only able to arrest two, there were others there who fled quickly. About 10 in all, according to the police. Again, read the police report before commenting.

DP. The police report is vague. It states that cops saw "approximately" ten people standing around a car "and attacking" the victims. This is a vague statement. Were all ten people attacking? Were some just standing there? Were some yelling? What were they yelling (were they egging the attackers on or were they upset? We don't know, and it's actually possible the cops don't even know. They saw a group of kids, some of them were clearly attacking this guy, most of them fled when the cops showed up, and two were arrested and IDed by the victims as attackers. The police report was drafted without any investigation, just a brief ID and statement from the victims.

We don't actually know what happened.

Yes, my comment said that the police saw about 10 people in all but they were only able to detain two of them. The police report clearly states that these two suspects began assaulting the victims. No, it does not state what the components of the assault were. But the police report, the legal documention of the incident by the trained officers who witnessed it and responded to it, clearly states that an assault occurred and that a number (some number?) of potential suspects escaped. The police report clearly states assault.

[Anonymous]

Surely someone on Swann street has security cameras