80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

Exactly. People are trying to find a way to solve it, and it can only be done by social change or legally rolling back rights. Nothing is going to happen to you if you don’t get married or have kids, no social blowback or consequences means that there isn’t any pressure to pick. There isn’t a culture of arranged marriages or waiting for sex until marriage that forces relationships. It used to be a major shame on your family if you got pregnant out of wedlock and you had to marry the guy. That doesn’t happen now because people don’t get accidentally knocked up like that as much anymore

+ you need social shame to drive people into marriage. American culture is too big on “you do you” and that anything anyone else does in your circle of family and friends is none of your business. That’s a good thing on some level, but when it gets to the point where getting IVF on your own or staying single is completely normalized, it will have a long term effect on fertility rates.

Yep, and we women worked damn hard to get those rights. If you want us to have more children, build an infrastructure of support that allows parents to have careers while raising a family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

Exactly. People are trying to find a way to solve it, and it can only be done by social change or legally rolling back rights. Nothing is going to happen to you if you don’t get married or have kids, no social blowback or consequences means that there isn’t any pressure to pick. There isn’t a culture of arranged marriages or waiting for sex until marriage that forces relationships. It used to be a major shame on your family if you got pregnant out of wedlock and you had to marry the guy. That doesn’t happen now because people don’t get accidentally knocked up like that as much anymore

+ you need social shame to drive people into marriage. American culture is too big on “you do you” and that anything anyone else does in your circle of family and friends is none of your business. That’s a good thing on some level, but when it gets to the point where getting IVF on your own or staying single is completely normalized, it will have a long term effect on fertility rates.

Yep, and we women worked damn hard to get those rights. If you want us to have more children, build an infrastructure of support that allows parents to have careers while raising a family.

I’m a working mom and absolutely agree with you, but based on what we are seeing in Nordic countries, support for families doesn’t increase fertility rates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the story about "West Elm Caleb"?
Tall, handsome, straight furniture designer who was "dating" every young woman in NYC and they were all crying about him on social media because they all thought they were his one true love.
Men will do whatever they can get away with. It's because we carry the babies that we need to be picky. Part of that means not sleeping with a guy the day you meet him and figuring out that, oh, this guy will never commit and isn't worth my time.

As West End Caleb showed, women don't want to make that choice. Instead, they get mad and blame Caleb for their choices.

Young women, just emerged from their parents' loving home, think that they are so special that the handsome prince will surely fall in love with them. I wish my mother would have given it to me straight about what dogs men can be, and what to actually look for in a man. I was too idealistic.

Huh. I did not come from a loving home and actually had extremely low self esteem when I entered the dating market because I had never been treated particularly well by anyone in my life.

This did not help me better identify "what dogs men can be." It just made me highly suspicious of anyone who was really nice to me or seemed very interested in me because I assumed they had ulterior motives (since obviously I was not worthy of that kind of affection). This led me to date a lot of men who withheld affection or put me down, not because I like "bad boys" (most of these men were good on paper in a respectable way, not like criminals or rock starts, but like lawyers and accountants who also were not very nice to me).

In raising my own daughter, I have emphasized providing her with a loving home and demonstrating a mutually respectful and kind relationship with her dad so that she knows to look for that as an adult. Sure, maybe I need to let her know that there are men who will say anything to get into your pants. But I think it's more important to model loving, respectful relationships so that when she meets men who have no interest in that, she will recognize it and think "this is not it."

Love this! You sound like a great mom.

I think this is so so important for young women these days. Leaving at the first red flags, not tolerating men who can’t respect you and your boundaries, and knowing what GOOD feels like will go a long way. Too many women put up with subpar men and deserve better!

+1. Having the right male role models for your daughters is so important but it is her father who she will use as a yardstick against which all men she dates will be measured. How does he treat her and her mother? Does he respect and encourage her?

[Anonymous]

Men don’t know what women find attractive. All this 6/6/6 stuff is from men. If you look around, you see women dating and married to all sorts of men. Women will literally tell men what they’re into and men will call them liars. The men who listen to this Tate stuff are so dumb. Single men giving other single men on how to be attractive to? Other single men. They want you single and sad so you keep buying their grift.

Look up Hugh Jackman advertising to men vs women. Totally different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

Exactly. People are trying to find a way to solve it, and it can only be done by social change or legally rolling back rights. Nothing is going to happen to you if you don’t get married or have kids, no social blowback or consequences means that there isn’t any pressure to pick. There isn’t a culture of arranged marriages or waiting for sex until marriage that forces relationships. It used to be a major shame on your family if you got pregnant out of wedlock and you had to marry the guy. That doesn’t happen now because people don’t get accidentally knocked up like that as much anymore

+ you need social shame to drive people into marriage. American culture is too big on “you do you” and that anything anyone else does in your circle of family and friends is none of your business. That’s a good thing on some level, but when it gets to the point where getting IVF on your own or staying single is completely normalized, it will have a long term effect on fertility rates.

Yep, and we women worked damn hard to get those rights. If you want us to have more children, build an infrastructure of support that allows parents to have careers while raising a family.

I’m a working mom and absolutely agree with you, but based on what we are seeing in Nordic countries, support for families doesn’t increase fertility rates.

It does increase happiness and satisfaction. I’d rather a happy and satisfied community than a miserable one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

Exactly. People are trying to find a way to solve it, and it can only be done by social change or legally rolling back rights. Nothing is going to happen to you if you don’t get married or have kids, no social blowback or consequences means that there isn’t any pressure to pick. There isn’t a culture of arranged marriages or waiting for sex until marriage that forces relationships. It used to be a major shame on your family if you got pregnant out of wedlock and you had to marry the guy. That doesn’t happen now because people don’t get accidentally knocked up like that as much anymore

+ you need social shame to drive people into marriage. American culture is too big on “you do you” and that anything anyone else does in your circle of family and friends is none of your business. That’s a good thing on some level, but when it gets to the point where getting IVF on your own or staying single is completely normalized, it will have a long term effect on fertility rates.

Yep, and we women worked damn hard to get those rights. If you want us to have more children, build an infrastructure of support that allows parents to have careers while raising a family.

I’m a working mom and absolutely agree with you, but based on what we are seeing in Nordic countries, support for families doesn’t increase fertility rates.

The answer is increasing legal immigration not expecting current citizens to reproduce more than they want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

Up your game, bro.

[Anonymous]

Any men struggling should check out @alittlenudge on insta.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

Exactly. People are trying to find a way to solve it, and it can only be done by social change or legally rolling back rights. Nothing is going to happen to you if you don’t get married or have kids, no social blowback or consequences means that there isn’t any pressure to pick. There isn’t a culture of arranged marriages or waiting for sex until marriage that forces relationships. It used to be a major shame on your family if you got pregnant out of wedlock and you had to marry the guy. That doesn’t happen now because people don’t get accidentally knocked up like that as much anymore

+ you need social shame to drive people into marriage. American culture is too big on “you do you” and that anything anyone else does in your circle of family and friends is none of your business. That’s a good thing on some level, but when it gets to the point where getting IVF on your own or staying single is completely normalized, it will have a long term effect on fertility rates.

There’s 8 billion people in the world. We’ll be fine with a few less kids.

+1. Not every fertile man or woman should or wants to reproduce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men don’t know what women find attractive. All this 6/6/6 stuff is from men. If you look around, you see women dating and married to all sorts of men. Women will literally tell men what they’re into and men will call them liars. The men who listen to this Tate stuff are so dumb. Single men giving other single men on how to be attractive to? Other single men. They want you single and sad so you keep buying their grift.

Look up Hugh Jackman advertising to men vs women. Totally different.

Same with women- men aren’t looking for thin and young. Look at the wives men actually have! We’ve just been brainwashed to blame things outside our control as the reason we aren’t happy.

And the manosphere and beauty companies and diet companies laugh all the way to the bank.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should instead ask yourself why men consistently swipe right on a much higher percentage of women. Are they honestly interested in relationships with all of those women?

No.

And that's the difference. Women are choosy because they are trying to select for a life partner. Men are not choosy because hey, if they meet a life partner cool, but in the meantime, they are just looking for a warm bed. And unlike women, men don't have as tight of a timeline so they can play this game.

And if you are a man who is interested in a life partner, you need to better understand what makes you a good partner and highlight that. Women learn to do this from a young age out of necessity. Men can learn it too. Women want men who have their $hit together.If you are struggling on the dating market, start there.

Women want men who are tall, even if their faces are average. No different than men who want thin women, even if their faces are average.

Not all women. My DH is 5'7" and I'm 5'4". It was more important to me that he was totally into me, had a cute face (subjective), intelligent and some ambition. We were equally broke college students with middle class parents.

You still wanted taller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should instead ask yourself why men consistently swipe right on a much higher percentage of women. Are they honestly interested in relationships with all of those women?

No.

And that's the difference. Women are choosy because they are trying to select for a life partner. Men are not choosy because hey, if they meet a life partner cool, but in the meantime, they are just looking for a warm bed. And unlike women, men don't have as tight of a timeline so they can play this game.

And if you are a man who is interested in a life partner, you need to better understand what makes you a good partner and highlight that. Women learn to do this from a young age out of necessity. Men can learn it too. Women want men who have their $hit together.If you are struggling on the dating market, start there.

Women want men who are tall, even if their faces are average. No different than men who want thin women, even if their faces are average.

Not really. Do you know any married men? Are they all over 6’? Because in my circle I think there’s 2 guys over 6’ and everyone else coupled up is shorter.

Stop buying red pill garbage and get out in the real world.

This. I know multiple guys who are 5’4 - 5’6” with lovely wives and gorgeous kids. What they don’t have is a) a complex b) a sense of grievance against womankind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men don’t know what women find attractive. All this 6/6/6 stuff is from men. If you look around, you see women dating and married to all sorts of men. Women will literally tell men what they’re into and men will call them liars. The men who listen to this Tate stuff are so dumb. Single men giving other single men on how to be attractive to? Other single men. They want you single and sad so you keep buying their grift.

Look up Hugh Jackman advertising to men vs women. Totally different.

This. Some guy here thinks that being tall makes him top 1%. While I admit to finding certain tallish professional athletes attractive, I’ve never used height as a reason to choose not to date someone. I had a few firm deal-breakers that almost all women have, like bad hygiene, poor communication, and bad manners, as well as others that are personal to me, like being really into fitness—so overweight people just aren’t attractive to me—and I enjoy good conversation, so someone who isn't curious or educated wouldn't work. I'm not into tattoos or body piercing, and I wasn't interested in dating men who made significantly less than I do or who already had kids. But overall, yes, the things women care about are often not what men think they care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you should instead ask yourself why men consistently swipe right on a much higher percentage of women. Are they honestly interested in relationships with all of those women?

No.

And that's the difference. Women are choosy because they are trying to select for a life partner. Men are not choosy because hey, if they meet a life partner cool, but in the meantime, they are just looking for a warm bed. And unlike women, men don't have as tight of a timeline so they can play this game.

And if you are a man who is interested in a life partner, you need to better understand what makes you a good partner and highlight that. Women learn to do this from a young age out of necessity. Men can learn it too. Women want men who have their $hit together.If you are struggling on the dating market, start there.

Women want men who are tall, even if their faces are average. No different than men who want thin women, even if their faces are average.

Not all women. My DH is 5'7" and I'm 5'4". It was more important to me that he was totally into me, had a cute face (subjective), intelligent and some ambition. We were equally broke college students with middle class parents.

You still wanted taller.

I love that this post is right under one that said “Women will literally tell men what they’re into and men will call them liars.”

DING DING DING

[Anonymous]

The actual cause for drop in birth rates is that CHILDREN aren’t having children as much any longer. And the vast majority of children who had children were fathered by grown men.

Stop complaining about a drop in birth rates because you aren’t able to rape children anymore. Ugh. Disgusting.