80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the story about "West Elm Caleb"?
Tall, handsome, straight furniture designer who was "dating" every young woman in NYC and they were all crying about him on social media because they all thought they were his one true love.
Men will do whatever they can get away with. It's because we carry the babies that we need to be picky. Part of that means not sleeping with a guy the day you meet him and figuring out that, oh, this guy will never commit and isn't worth my time.

As West End Caleb showed, women don't want to make that choice. Instead, they get mad and blame Caleb for their choices.

Young women, just emerged from their parents' loving home, think that they are so special that the handsome prince will surely fall in love with them. I wish my mother would have given it to me straight about what dogs men can be, and what to actually look for in a man. I was too idealistic.

Well, maybe the social construct becomes more like the animal kingdom. Those 20% of males impregnate the 80% of females that want to have children to pass on their good genes. Of course, no monogamy here, unless you’re the last lucky female to snag him at the end of his productive breeding years.

I honestly wonder if the average height in the US is going to get taller when most of the short men lose out on women.

Yes, that’s a correct observation. Men’s average height is going taller. For older white male it’s 5’10. For younger 5’11. Presumably next generation will be 6’ average

[Anonymous]

I'm wondering what it is about the profile that is making women not choose it. For me, I don't have particular requirements about a guy's finances or career, and am ok with someone average looking. However, I can't tolerate far right politics, or sexual innuendos or references at the early stages of dating, or a braggart. I want a guy around my age or older, with no kids at home full time (shared custody is ok for older kids). That doesn't rule 80 percent of men out, but probably around 50 percent.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering what it is about the profile that is making women not choose it. For me, I don't have particular requirements about a guy's finances or career, and am ok with someone average looking. However, I can't tolerate far right politics, or sexual innuendos or references at the early stages of dating, or a braggart. I want a guy around my age or older, with no kids at home full time (shared custody is ok for older kids). That doesn't rule 80 percent of men out, but probably around 50 percent.

Fat, poor personal hygiene, sexual connotation, dirty surroundings like bathroom, too little info about himself or what he’s looking for.

[Anonymous]

I'm wondering what it is about the profile that is making women not choose it. For me, I don't have particular requirements about a guy's finances or career, and am ok with someone average looking. However, I can't tolerate far right politics, or sexual innuendos or references at the early stages of dating, or a braggart. I want a guy around my age or older, with no kids at home full time (shared custody is ok for older kids). That doesn't rule 80 percent of men out, but probably around 50 percent.


Fat, poor personal hygiene, sexual connotation, dirty surroundings like bathroom, too little info about himself or what he’s looking for.

I mostly agree. I am ok with a guy who is somewhat chubby but not obese. Just don't find it attractive.

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I'm wondering what it is about the profile that is making women not choose it. For me, I don't have particular requirements about a guy's finances or career, and am ok with someone average looking. However, I can't tolerate far right politics, or sexual innuendos or references at the early stages of dating, or a braggart. I want a guy around my age or older, with no kids at home full time (shared custody is ok for older kids). That doesn't rule 80 percent of men out, but probably around 50 percent.


Fat, poor personal hygiene, sexual connotation, dirty surroundings like bathroom, too little info about himself or what he’s looking for.

I mostly agree. I am ok with a guy who is somewhat chubby but not obese. Just don't find it attractive.

Somewhat chubby is a problem after she 45. They all have ED . My approach to dating if I as a woman am able to stay slim in my 40s, it should be waaay easier for men. I only date athletic and thin.

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Anonymous wrote:80% of rejected men should figure out why they aren't like the successful men and make adjustments if they don't want to be alone.

This. Maybe a matriarchal society is not a bad thing. We have never really tried it.

Yes - and then women will realize having babies just sucks the life right out of you, so, as a species we should not have any more babies and we humans go extinct within one generation.

This would be the ideal outcome. We deserve it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe men need to focus on self-improvement, health, their weight, appearance, good fashion, etc. just like women do.
In our society, females are largely trained from childhood that you have to look good to be noticed. Men gotta catch up if they want to be seen.

Largely it’s about height and wealth. Men can get fit but can’t get taller and wealth is mostly a factor of how well your parents set you up for success. It’s been well documented that the hard work —> success model is broken. This is a side effect of that.

[Anonymous]

Easy. It's because 80% of profiles suck, and of the 20% that are decent, 80% of those men don't know how to have a conversation or ask a woman out.

The vast majority of men's profiles I see have little to no text ("if you want to know something, just ask!" BARF) and the pictures are all bad selfies.

If you can't put in some effort in a dating profile, which takes 20 minutes tops, I know you're not going to put any effort into actually dating. Swipe left.

Then if you do match, most men just repeat "hey" "sup" "how r u" literally over and over again. It's exhausting trying to carry on a conversation, and they never actually ask you out.

The men I swipe right on don't have to be a 6-6-6-6. They have to:

1. Put enough into their profile that I get a sense of who they are and that we're a decent match.

2. Have something to say other than "hey". I have tons of information in my profile, find something to comment on and have a conversation about.

3. Ask me out relatively quickly. Yes, I want to exchange a few messages first, but if we're still texting after a few days and you haven't actually planned a date, I'm out. And yes, you have to plan a date. Just saying "we should meet up sometime" doesn't cut it.

I have 3 dates this weekend with men from OLD. They aren't top 20% in looks or income, but they showed genuine interest in *me*, and they were able to do basic things like a dinner reservation.

OLD is like any other pursuit in life. You get out of it what you put into it. If you do the bare minimum, expect bare minimum results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's beautiful being in that 20 percent though.

Those 20% are feasting.

It’s not a big deal. The market is working. High value men and women will never have issues.

[Anonymous]

Women are following the 6-6-6 rule

https://nypost.com/2024/09/16/lifestyle/women-are-using-the-6-6-6-dating-rule-to-find-the-perfect-man-but-is-it-hurting-their-chance-at-finding-love/

You know what 666 is famous for? Stands to reason it could bring about end times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's beautiful being in that 20 percent though.

Those 20% are feasting.

It’s not a big deal. The market is working. High value men and women will never have issues.

Most of those women are looking for a husband, not to be part of a harem.

[Anonymous]

This goes both ways. Most men find only top 20% of women attractive.

There are many aging out women wondering why they can’t find a husband in their thirties. They are likely not willing to settle. Dating an average or below average looking guy may seem like settling if you think you are more attractive than you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t believe this is really true. You’re telling me that 80% of men who use dating apps never get a date that way?
Then why is everyone still using these apps years later?

The same reason people will always fall for pyramid schemes:

- false hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Easy. It's because 80% of profiles suck, and of the 20% that are decent, 80% of those men don't know how to have a conversation or ask a woman out.

The vast majority of men's profiles I see have little to no text ("if you want to know something, just ask!" BARF) and the pictures are all bad selfies.

If you can't put in some effort in a dating profile, which takes 20 minutes tops, I know you're not going to put any effort into actually dating. Swipe left.

Then if you do match, most men just repeat "hey" "sup" "how r u" literally over and over again. It's exhausting trying to carry on a conversation, and they never actually ask you out.

The men I swipe right on don't have to be a 6-6-6-6. They have to:

1. Put enough into their profile that I get a sense of who they are and that we're a decent match.

2. Have something to say other than "hey". I have tons of information in my profile, find something to comment on and have a conversation about.

3. Ask me out relatively quickly. Yes, I want to exchange a few messages first, but if we're still texting after a few days and you haven't actually planned a date, I'm out. And yes, you have to plan a date. Just saying "we should meet up sometime" doesn't cut it.

I have 3 dates this weekend with men from OLD. They aren't top 20% in looks or income, but they showed genuine interest in *me*, and they were able to do basic things like a dinner reservation.

OLD is like any other pursuit in life. You get out of it what you put into it. If you do the bare minimum, expect bare minimum results.

+100. If he’s too lazy / doesn’t care enough to make a decent profile, he’s not worth my time. No matter how good looking or successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

There are many other places to meet women. And men are not entitled to any of the women on the apps. There is nothing to 'stop'.