Conservatives of DCUM - where do you draw the line?

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If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

My opinion of Trump does not matter because it has no power to seat/unseat a president. Just because Trump acts like a Democrat does not mean I will stop supporting the Republican party. If Trump is removed, it will be president Vance. If Trump stays, more Liberals implode, some by self-immolation, some to live in a mental asylum which is what the Democratic party looks like to me: a loony bin full of weird-haired circus freaks screaming about pronouns.

Win-Win.

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

It is not about brown people—way to go supporting that stupid narrative, it is about waves of lawless invaders crossing our borders which is illegal to do regardless of skin color.

The equivalent of due process is served if a person is in this country without a visa or proper authorization. Not being able to speak English along with no identification means Uncle Sam’s big boot goes right into your butt and out the door you go. Good-bye and good riddance!

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

Anything Trump does is 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats would do. In some cases, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

The Democratic party is the party of murder, sexual deviance, and perversion. It is soft on crime, giving light sentences or none at all for those who do evil.

Calling Democrats the “party of perversion and crime” is projection at best and propaganda at worst. Let’s unpack the irony:

- 34-time FELON Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation by a jury in the E. Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay over $88 million in damages. That’s not hearsay or fake news, it’s a legal verdict.

- More than 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including rape, groping, and walking in on underage pageant contestants.

- Republican leaders defended Roy Moore, a Senate candidate accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

- Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys and paid hush money to cover it up.

- Matt Gaetz, a sitting Republican congressman, is under investigation for sex trafficking of a minor.

If you want to talk about “perversion,” start with the party that keeps elevating men with credible sexual abuse allegations and covering them up, as Republicans are currently doing with the Epstein files.

As for crime? Democratic-led cities have seen drops in violent crime, and Democratic lawmakers have passed bipartisan legislation to fund police and reform sentencing. Meanwhile, Republicans push fear-based narratives while opposing gun safety laws that could actually reduce crime.

And on immigration: ICE under Trump has violated due process repeatedly, detaining migrants without hearings, deporting them to third countries with as little as six hours’ notice, and even arresting people inside courthouses without warrants. That’s not law and order—it’s authoritarianism.

So no, Democrats aren’t the party of crime or perversion. They’re the party trying to fix broken systems while Republicans defend abusers, ignore court rulings, and weaponize cruelty for political gain.

No one thinks a NY jury is capable of applying the law correctly any more than people are persuaded by so-called "credible" allegations of sexual assault. Those words no longer have meaning because Democrats have corrupted our systems.

Karma can be a biatch for you and all the females in your life. How could you be so dismissive and disgusting of all those women who finally came out of the shadows to testify under oath against predator trump.

This type of stuff doesn't happen to the women in my life, and I don't find the gang-piling to make their allegations more credible.

If you want to convince me you can tell credible accusations apart from bad ones, please tell me the best reasons why Christine Ford's allegations likely lacked merit?

Doesn't happen vs don't tell you are different things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

No, he wasn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

No, he wasn't.

Lol. Please explain his industrious use of time and wealth generation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

No, he wasn't.

How about illegal human trafficking for disgusting, skeevy, unethical and immoral men? Is that better terminology? Literally convicted of illegal sexual activity with minors? Sounds so much better, right??

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Supporting Israel is the line for me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

No, he wasn't.

Debating the official definition of pedofile for how to label disgusting men is how low the MAGA excuses are sinking. Dang. I am embarrassed for you.

[Anonymous]

I am a registered Republican.
I am moderate but swing conservative on most issues.
I voted AGAINST Trump because I couldn't get past Trump the man and the extreme MAGA. That's where I drew the line.

BUT...and it's a big BUT...I do still support most of the EOs/policies of the current administration -- just not necessarily the method of implementation which is too extreme IMHO. This is why even though I am anti-Trump I am not necessarily against all the EOs/policies.

I would still consider voting R for the next POTUS so long as it's not a nut job like Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a registered Republican.
I am moderate but swing conservative on most issues.
I voted AGAINST Trump because I couldn't get past Trump the man and the extreme MAGA. That's where I drew the line.

BUT...and it's a big BUT...I do still support most of the EOs/policies of the current administration -- just not necessarily the method of implementation which is too extreme IMHO. This is why even though I am anti-Trump I am not necessarily against all the EOs/policies.

I would still consider voting R for the next POTUS so long as it's not a nut job like Trump.

I'll add....if the Democrats put forth someone as progressive/far left as Mamdani or AOC that'll be another reason for me to vote R.
I'll vote D IF and only IF they put forth someone moderate like Kelly. I only voted Harris because I was anti-Trump and I'm not alone.

[Anonymous]

OP, the term "conservatives" in your title should be in quotes, because there is nothing conservative about MAGA or Trumpism.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a registered Republican.
I am moderate but swing conservative on most issues.
I voted AGAINST Trump because I couldn't get past Trump the man and the extreme MAGA. That's where I drew the line.

BUT...and it's a big BUT...I do still support most of the EOs/policies of the current administration -- just not necessarily the method of implementation which is too extreme IMHO. This is why even though I am anti-Trump I am not necessarily against all the EOs/policies.

I would still consider voting R for the next POTUS so long as it's not a nut job like Trump.

lol you voted for Trump every time and live his politics and policies- ie fascism. Just own it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

Yes, in fact, the less due process they receive the better. Trump has not gone nearly far enough. Remittances should be taxed at 90% and illegals should all be deported to the Congo.

How do you know they are here illegally without due process?

Don't care. Biden abandoned the law on the way in, so they don't get it on the way out. No one voted for tens of millions of illegal aliens.

And we lost due process long ago with things like civil forfeiture and Kelo. As a conservative, I'm tired of due process being used as a weapon against me and a shield to thwart me when there is no vote to do such things. My friends on the left don't realize that liberalism's failures are going to create a class of young men who are far more radical than I am.

Past abuses and failure to enforce policies aren’t a reason to throw the entire thing out. By that same logic, because Trump has been declared above the law, we all should be free to commit crimes, and therefore nobody is illegal and nobody should be rounded up. Nobody voted for ICE, either. We all have to put up with things that we, personally, didn’t vote for.

And yes, we’re well aware that young men are being radicalized and trying to blame liberalism for their lack of success. The old “look what you made me do” defense.

Of course past abuses are a reason to throw the entire thing out. If the law is only enforced against one party, that party would be foolish to continue playing by the rules. The logic is the same as Democrats use. Rewards for my friends and punishments for my enemies.

You have to be pretty disconnected to think young men don't have legitimate grievances.

Do you throw out your entire car when it needs new tires?

Of course young men have legitimate grievances. So do young women, and old women, and black people, and Arab-Americans, and farmers, and veterans…the list goes on. Your grievances, and your vote, are just as important, and just as unimportant, as everybody else’s.

[Anonymous]

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OP, the term "conservatives" in your title should be in quotes, because there is nothing conservative about MAGA or Trumpism.

This.

+100

I am "conservative" -- but not extreme evangelical/MAGA/Trumpism. Don't conflate the two.

[Anonymous]

There is nothing “conservative “ about Trump and Trumpism. They are reactionaries, fascists, and white supremacists. There is nothing conservative about burning it all down and ignoring the laws and constitution. There is nothing conservative about a guy with 5 kids by 3 wives and cheating on his wife with a p@rn star. There is nothing conservative about destroying relationships with allies. There is nothing conservative about partying with teenagers and sexually assaulting them.


As for the people who still support him, they are either dumb, willfully ignorant, or fascists and white supremacists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

My opinion of Trump does not matter because it has no power to seat/unseat a president. Just because Trump acts like a Democrat does not mean I will stop supporting the Republican party. If Trump is removed, it will be president Vance. If Trump stays, more Liberals implode, some by self-immolation, some to live in a mental asylum which is what the Democratic party looks like to me: a loony bin full of weird-haired circus freaks screaming about pronouns.

Win-Win.

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

It is not about brown people—way to go supporting that stupid narrative, it is about waves of lawless invaders crossing our borders which is illegal to do regardless of skin color.

The equivalent of due process is served if a person is in this country without a visa or proper authorization. Not being able to speak English along with no identification means Uncle Sam’s big boot goes right into your butt and out the door you go. Good-bye and good riddance!

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

Anything Trump does is 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats would do. In some cases, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

The Democratic party is the party of murder, sexual deviance, and perversion. It is soft on crime, giving light sentences or none at all for those who do evil.

Calling Democrats the “party of perversion and crime” is projection at best and propaganda at worst. Let’s unpack the irony:

- 34-time FELON Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation by a jury in the E. Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay over $88 million in damages. That’s not hearsay or fake news, it’s a legal verdict.

- More than 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including rape, groping, and walking in on underage pageant contestants.

- Republican leaders defended Roy Moore, a Senate candidate accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

- Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys and paid hush money to cover it up.

- Matt Gaetz, a sitting Republican congressman, is under investigation for sex trafficking of a minor.

If you want to talk about “perversion,” start with the party that keeps elevating men with credible sexual abuse allegations and covering them up, as Republicans are currently doing with the Epstein files.

As for crime? Democratic-led cities have seen drops in violent crime, and Democratic lawmakers have passed bipartisan legislation to fund police and reform sentencing. Meanwhile, Republicans push fear-based narratives while opposing gun safety laws that could actually reduce crime.

And on immigration: ICE under Trump has violated due process repeatedly, detaining migrants without hearings, deporting them to third countries with as little as six hours’ notice, and even arresting people inside courthouses without warrants. That’s not law and order—it’s authoritarianism.

So no, Democrats aren’t the party of crime or perversion. They’re the party trying to fix broken systems while Republicans defend abusers, ignore court rulings, and weaponize cruelty for political gain.

It is as old as prostitution itself: find a rich man, bring false witnesses to a corrupt judge and bingo! your odds of a payout is better than the lottery or slot machine.

Potipher’s wife accusing Joseph because he would not have sex with her has been repeated many times, which is why nobody believes women because they are liars and as deceitful as the Devil.

Whatever Trump has done, Democrats have done 10,000 times worse. There are bad eggs in both parties but it is the Democratic party that is the home of abortion, homosexuality, communists, and anti-capitalists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a registered Republican.
I am moderate but swing conservative on most issues.
I voted AGAINST Trump because I couldn't get past Trump the man and the extreme MAGA. That's where I drew the line.

BUT...and it's a big BUT...I do still support most of the EOs/policies of the current administration -- just not necessarily the method of implementation which is too extreme IMHO. This is why even though I am anti-Trump I am not necessarily against all the EOs/policies.

I would still consider voting R for the next POTUS so long as it's not a nut job like Trump.

I am glad to hear from someone who drew the line at Trump. I am assuming the EOs/policies you support are ones that any republican potus would have done. That’s what baffles me so much about their loyalty to Trump. There are plenty of qualified republicans who can deliver conservative policy without committing every crime in the book, embarrassing the entire country, and destroying the constitution.