Conservatives of DCUM - where do you draw the line?

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Words of my uncle:
He didn’t assault my daughter, I’m not an immigrant so these things aren’t my business.

He’s cutting my taxes so that’s good for me
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Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.


You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/


I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸


Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"


Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.


Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.


You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?


I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.


You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.


Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.


Are you talking about the Inflation Reduction Act that provided monies that GOP politicians who voted against it are taking credit for? That bill? Or the Infrastructure Act where they are literally at Ribbon Cuttings for project they voted against?
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

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Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.


You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/


I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸


Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"


Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.


Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.


You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?


I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.


You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.


Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.


Are you talking about the Inflation Reduction Act that provided monies that GOP politicians who voted against it are taking credit for? That bill? Or the Infrastructure Act where they are literally at Ribbon Cuttings for project they voted against?


I'm talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. A spending bill touted as inflation reduction is an oxymoron.
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP


Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.


You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/


I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸


Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"


Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.


Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.


You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?


I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.


You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.


Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.


Are you talking about the Inflation Reduction Act that provided monies that GOP politicians who voted against it are taking credit for? That bill? Or the Infrastructure Act where they are literally at Ribbon Cuttings for project they voted against?


I'm talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. A spending bill touted as inflation reduction is an oxymoron.


except for inflation was in check as compared to the rest of the world, hence why the US economy was "the envy of the world" when Biden left office. Of do you think an e3conomy can survive a pandemic and supply chain shocks without inflation?
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No line because Trump is lawless. He is fighting every battle in the court of public opinion (twitter, Reddit, social media) by twisting and breaking laws whenever he needs to.

Ironic that Trumps Chumps are going after legal hard working immigrants for breaking laws. There is a sucker born every minute.
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP


Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.


You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/


I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸


Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"


Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.


Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.


You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?


I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.


You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.


Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.


Are you talking about the Inflation Reduction Act that provided monies that GOP politicians who voted against it are taking credit for? That bill? Or the Infrastructure Act where they are literally at Ribbon Cuttings for project they voted against?


I'm talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. A spending bill touted as inflation reduction is an oxymoron.

I guess a recession would have been preferable to you, and what not.
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Is this an entire thread of leftists talking to each other about right wing views? Lol
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What's your perspective? Is MAGA pro-pedophilia and conservatives anti-pedophilia...or would you draw the line differently?
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If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?
My opinion of Trump does not matter because it has no power to seat/unseat a president. Just because Trump acts like a Democrat does not mean I will stop supporting the Republican party. If Trump is removed, it will be president Vance. If Trump stays, more Liberals implode, some by self-immolation, some to live in a mental asylum which is what the Democratic party looks like to me: a loony bin full of weird-haired circus freaks screaming about pronouns.

Win-Win.

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?
It is not about brown people—way to go supporting that stupid narrative, it is about waves of lawless invaders crossing our borders which is illegal to do regardless of skin color.

The equivalent of due process is served if a person is in this country without a visa or proper authorization. Not being able to speak English along with no identification means Uncle Sam’s big boot goes right into your butt and out the door you go. Good-bye and good riddance!
From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.
Anything Trump does is 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats would do. In some cases, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

The Democratic party is the party of murder, sexual deviance, and perversion. It is soft on crime, giving light sentences or none at all for those who do evil.


Calling Democrats the “party of perversion and crime” is projection at best and propaganda at worst. Let’s unpack the irony:

- 34-time FELON Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation by a jury in the E. Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay over $88 million in damages. That’s not hearsay or fake news, it’s a legal verdict.

- More than 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including rape, groping, and walking in on underage pageant contestants.

- Republican leaders defended Roy Moore, a Senate candidate accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

- Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys and paid hush money to cover it up.

- Matt Gaetz, a sitting Republican congressman, is under investigation for sex trafficking of a minor.

If you want to talk about “perversion,” start with the party that keeps elevating men with credible sexual abuse allegations and covering them up, as Republicans are currently doing with the Epstein files.

As for crime? Democratic-led cities have seen drops in violent crime, and Democratic lawmakers have passed bipartisan legislation to fund police and reform sentencing. Meanwhile, Republicans push fear-based narratives while opposing gun safety laws that could actually reduce crime.

And on immigration: ICE under Trump has violated due process repeatedly, detaining migrants without hearings, deporting them to third countries with as little as six hours’ notice, and even arresting people inside courthouses without warrants. That’s not law and order—it’s authoritarianism.

So no, Democrats aren’t the party of crime or perversion. They’re the party trying to fix broken systems while Republicans defend abusers, ignore court rulings, and weaponize cruelty for political gain.


No one thinks a NY jury is capable of applying the law correctly any more than people are persuaded by so-called "credible" allegations of sexual assault. Those words no longer have meaning because Democrats have corrupted our systems.

Karma can be a biatch for you and all the females in your life. How could you be so dismissive and disgusting of all those women who finally came out of the shadows to testify under oath against predator trump.


This type of stuff doesn't happen to the women in my life, and I don't find the gang-piling to make their allegations more credible.

If you want to convince me you can tell credible accusations apart from bad ones, please tell me the best reasons why Christine Ford's allegations likely lacked merit?


The women in your life would never tell you about this. Based upon your answers here, you are not a safe person to talk to about this topic. The women in your life will lie to you if you ask because you are clearly not someone who would listen to them.

Go ahead and be proud of that if you want to.



Love how no one explains why Christine Ford's allegations were likely bogus and instead shriek at the poster for noticing.

And I do not support your view of women that women will lie to men if the men do not agree with them. Maybe you do that, but not all women are like that. In my experience, however, women lie when they want to distract from their own misconduct. If you start pulling at that thread, you end up with Christine Ford-like stories, which is probably why you are attacking me instead of engaging in debate.


You are proving my point over and over again.

I’m not saying the women in your life are always lying to you. I’m saying if you ask directly about the topic of sexual assault, a woman in your life will not answer you that they have experienced that even if you have.

You are saying “women lie when they want to distract from their own misconduct”. Which is just like saying “she was assaulted because her skirt was too short and a man saw her breasts and was unable to control himself because of misconduct”

Bye now- we are just going to continue to disagree and this conversation can only devolve from here.





DP. Keep pushing identity politics. Nothing else seems to be working for you.




Trump is ALL identify politics. You just like the identities better.


Trump's identity politic is the American identity.

Whether he actually believes it is another matter, but that is the message.


No it isn't. His prefered identity is clearly white men. He panders to white men and white women who look like barbies.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't personally understand how people don't have a problem with Trump's behavior and still support him, however, it seems like his handling of the government is horrifying.

-cutting off money for cancer research
-cutting kids off of medicaid and school lunch
-EPA closing research office that researches chemicals
-cutting national parks and clean energy
-re-opening coal plants
-cutting money for people with black lung
-tariffs every other day
-gaza
-terrible and dumb cabinet officials
-Hegseth as Sec of Defense????
-cutting funding at USDA can't be good
-cutting funding for maternal health
-slashing the government without knowing what they are cutting
-sending the marines to CA - what a waste of money
ICE officials deporting american citizens

The list goes on and on.

It's not him, it's Project 2025

The types of things


Because democrats implement open borders and expand legal immigration

They want to replace all US workers with cheap foreign guest workers


I guess you forgot the part about Trump and other GOP business owners employing illegal immigrants and even marrying them?

And democrats expanding legal immigration simply means there are more people working and growing the GDP, something that is good for our country. How is it that both Bush's and Trump left office with a shrinking economy and fewer jobs and yet Clinton, Obama and Biden all left office with growing, stable economies and people like you think that is a bad thing?


Democrats expanding legal immigration is a good thing?

How far the Democrats have changed from the party of labor to the party of urban elites.

No US workers should ever vote for the current crop of Democrats.

Biden and Democrats Priorities

And yet it is the democrats that expand immigration which allows companies to stomp on workers , and they wonder why they lose Elections . Focus on US workers first and never lose.

1.Biden refuses to mandate e-verify. there is no reason to require corporations to hire US workers. -https://www.governing.com/work/e-verify-creates-loophole-for-undocumented-workers-employers.html

2.Biden helps US companies replace US workers with cheap foreign labor by expanding H1B - https://www.axios.com/2022/01/12/h1b-visa-approval-rate-tech-biden-immigration

3.Biden expanded OPT to new job categories, this helps companies replace US workers with cheap foreign indentured servants - https://www.fragomen.com/insights/united-states-white-house-announces-expansion-of-stem-opt-program-and-other-initiatives-to-attract-stem-talent.html

F1 - Legal system requires F-1 students to remain with employer for approximately 7-12 years

4.Biden proposes to create brand new W-1 visa with unlimited Green Cards, because we mythically don't have enough workers in the US, we devalued a master with H1B, and now we will devalue PhDs with W-1 visas - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/01/27/house-adds-game-changing-visas-for-immigrant-startups-and-phds/?sh=500faa1810be
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But Biden is so old and tired.
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The democrats entire understanding of inflation.

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He didn’t assault my daughter, I’m not an immigrant so these things aren’t my business.

He’s cutting my taxes so that’s good for me


This. The humanity and common sense with MAGAS is gone.
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Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.


You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/


I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸


Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"


Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.


Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.


You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?


I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.


You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.


Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.


Are you talking about the Inflation Reduction Act that provided monies that GOP politicians who voted against it are taking credit for? That bill? Or the Infrastructure Act where they are literally at Ribbon Cuttings for project they voted against?


I'm talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. A spending bill touted as inflation reduction is an oxymoron.


Except it did reduce inflation. Compare the US inflation rate to the rest of the world post-COVID.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't personally understand how people don't have a problem with Trump's behavior and still support him, however, it seems like his handling of the government is horrifying.

-cutting off money for cancer research
-cutting kids off of medicaid and school lunch
-EPA closing research office that researches chemicals
-cutting national parks and clean energy
-re-opening coal plants
-cutting money for people with black lung
-tariffs every other day
-gaza
-terrible and dumb cabinet officials
-Hegseth as Sec of Defense????
-cutting funding at USDA can't be good
-cutting funding for maternal health
-slashing the government without knowing what they are cutting
-sending the marines to CA - what a waste of money
ICE officials deporting american citizens

The list goes on and on.

It's not him, it's Project 2025

The types of things


Because democrats implement open borders and expand legal immigration

They want to replace all US workers with cheap foreign guest workers


I guess you forgot the part about Trump and other GOP business owners employing illegal immigrants and even marrying them?

And democrats expanding legal immigration simply means there are more people working and growing the GDP, something that is good for our country. How is it that both Bush's and Trump left office with a shrinking economy and fewer jobs and yet Clinton, Obama and Biden all left office with growing, stable economies and people like you think that is a bad thing?


Democrats expanding legal immigration is a good thing?

How far the Democrats have changed from the party of labor to the party of urban elites.

No US workers should ever vote for the current crop of Democrats.

Biden and Democrats Priorities

And yet it is the democrats that expand immigration which allows companies to stomp on workers , and they wonder why they lose Elections . Focus on US workers first and never lose.

1.Biden refuses to mandate e-verify. there is no reason to require corporations to hire US workers. -https://www.governing.com/work/e-verify-creates-loophole-for-undocumented-workers-employers.html

2.Biden helps US companies replace US workers with cheap foreign labor by expanding H1B - https://www.axios.com/2022/01/12/h1b-visa-approval-rate-tech-biden-immigration

3.Biden expanded OPT to new job categories, this helps companies replace US workers with cheap foreign indentured servants - https://www.fragomen.com/insights/united-states-white-house-announces-expansion-of-stem-opt-program-and-other-initiatives-to-attract-stem-talent.html

F1 - Legal system requires F-1 students to remain with employer for approximately 7-12 years

4.Biden proposes to create brand new W-1 visa with unlimited Green Cards, because we mythically don't have enough workers in the US, we devalued a master with H1B, and now we will devalue PhDs with W-1 visas - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/01/27/house-adds-game-changing-visas-for-immigrant-startups-and-phds/?sh=500faa1810be


Democrats are the party of labor. name a single thing the GOP has done since 1980 that actually helps the working class. And if you want to talk about "urban elites" look no further than Donald Trump, Steve Mnuchin, Bessent and all the other billionaires in the cabinet who are raping our country every day.

To the OP's question, we are about to find out that MAGA is perfectly fine with pedophilia and pardoning a known and admitted sex trafficker and someone who, herself, diddled with Epstiein's playthings.
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