Conservatives of DCUM - where do you draw the line?

[Anonymous]

OP, the term "conservatives" in your title should be in quotes, because there is nothing conservative about MAGA or Trumpism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

DP
While it's possible that Trump was an accessory to 95% of Epstien's crimes, that doesn't mean he's attracted to young girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

DP
While it's possible that Trump was an accessory to 95% of Epstien's crimes, that doesn't mean he's attracted to young girls.

No, but Trump’s own comments and past behavior lead all but the most naive women to believe that he really likes teenagers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

DP
While it's possible that Trump was an accessory to 95% of Epstien's crimes, that doesn't mean he's attracted to young girls.

No, but Trump’s own comments and past behavior lead all but the most naive women to believe that he really likes teenagers.

Agree. And while I don't doubt that he purposefully walked into the dressing rooms of minors, it would be nearly impossible to convict him of crimes in those instances.

As usual, he harms people in a way that makes it really hard to see him face any actual consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

DP
While it's possible that Trump was an accessory to 95% of Epstien's crimes, that doesn't mean he's attracted to young girls.

Best case scenario, he was besties with a pedo and did nothing, and that’s a hugely fanciful version of events.

I think that most people agree that it wasn’t close to the best case. Trump essentially said it a number of times, even specifically talking about out how they shared a love of very young girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

Yes, in fact, the less due process they receive the better. Trump has not gone nearly far enough. Remittances should be taxed at 90% and illegals should all be deported to the Congo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

DP
While it's possible that Trump was an accessory to 95% of Epstien's crimes, that doesn't mean he's attracted to young girls.

Have you seen pictures of Trump with Ivanka when she was under 14? Do you remember him talking about Tiffany as a toddler?

Please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

Yes, in fact, the less due process they receive the better. Trump has not gone nearly far enough. Remittances should be taxed at 90% and illegals should all be deported to the Congo.

How do you know they are here illegally without due process?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

You way overstate what was "accepted as par for the course."

Yes, behavior was not pretty in the 80's. It was a bad of era when the women's liberation advances got interpreted as "anything goes in our treatment of women."

Movies reflected but way exaggerated the dynamics, as movies do. They captured the extremes and with a satirical perspective -- that's what made them funny at the time.

Even for the 80's, Trump was gross. Normal 80's dads did NOT go around musing about sec with their daughters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

Yes, in fact, the less due process they receive the better. Trump has not gone nearly far enough. Remittances should be taxed at 90% and illegals should all be deported to the Congo.

How about the ones who are here legally on green cards, and get deported anyway (yes it’s happening)? How about the ones who show up to their immigration hearings and are snatched away before any ruling can occur?

What about Trump’s desire to arrest and “deport” US born citizens (like Rosie O’Donnell) who disagree with him politically?

[Anonymous]

^^ sex

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP.
While it is gross and inappropriate that old men used to openly slaver over young women, that does not equate to being actual pedophiles (who are attracted pre-pubescent children) and when you conflate the two, you dilute the meaning of the word.

I’ve been watching movies from the 80s. We have forgotten what things used to be like. Yes it is gross when men of any age ogle and leer at women, but it used to be accepted as par for the course. Trump is just a dinosaur.

Epstein was literally running a pedophile mill. Do you not get this?

DP
While it's possible that Trump was an accessory to 95% of Epstien's crimes, that doesn't mean he's attracted to young girls.

Best case scenario, he was besties with a pedo and did nothing, and that’s a hugely fanciful version of events.

I think that most people agree that it wasn’t close to the best case. Trump essentially said it a number of times, even specifically talking about out how they shared a love of very young girls.

The birthday card clearly alludes to this, with its references to “certain things in common”, a “wonderful secret” and “enigmas never age” (enigmas happens to be an anagram of gamines, French for young waifish girls - Epstein, as a former math teacher loved puzzles and coded language), and Trump’s signature across the pubic area of the accompanying drawing. Gross.

[Anonymous]

Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

Yes, in fact, the less due process they receive the better. Trump has not gone nearly far enough. Remittances should be taxed at 90% and illegals should all be deported to the Congo.

How do you know they are here illegally without due process?

Don't care. Biden abandoned the law on the way in, so they don't get it on the way out. No one voted for tens of millions of illegal aliens.

And we lost due process long ago with things like civil forfeiture and Kelo. As a conservative, I'm tired of due process being used as a weapon against me and a shield to thwart me when there is no vote to do such things. My friends on the left don't realize that liberalism's failures are going to create a class of young men who are far more radical than I am.

[Anonymous]

Do you remember him talking about Tiffany as a toddler?

No. Please show us.