Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html

Awful?

There are 330,000,000 people in the country.

33,000 lost their job (probably many of those are government jobs)* .

So, 1 in every 10,000 people lost their job.

Come back when your hair is on fire.



* "Federal government employment continued to decline in May (-22,000) and is down by 59,000
since January. (Employees on paid leave or receiving ongoing severance pay are counted as
employed in the establishment survey.)"

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

The data shows that the 33,000 jobs lost were private sector jobs, not federal/government.

No one is spending money. Sales for most companies have been down since Yam Tits was elected because people knew the crazy was incoming.

My company has had multiple layoffs since the beginning of the year.

Same, and we have another round on Monday. This is the part of management I hate. I hate knowing what's coming and having to pretend things are normal with my team members.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP. Sadly MAGA will spin this as Biden’s fault or lazy immigrants who are taking both public funds and good paying jobs. There is no reasoning, no understanding of economics, no acknowledgment of public goods or public will. It’s all ME ME ME.

Anyone who is upset with the direction of this country needs to do SOMETHING about it.

Volunteer
Protest
Boycott
Speak up, speak out. Especially people with money.

Why does everyone in DC assume everyone miserable. We are not.

For now. Only a matter of time.

We found one of the people who knows nothing about economics!

Basic economics—when you haphazardly, randomly, and suddenly fire thousands of federal workers throughout the country and do the same with government research grants, programs, contracts and subsidies—you f**k up the economy. You make it worse by giving trillions of tax cuts to billionaires and multimillionaires while cutting Medicaid, SNAP, Veterans programs, and other funding that affects people throughout the United States. Add TACO Trumps tariffs and masked ICE “agents” terrorizing people and you’ve created a shit economy.

News flash—when regular people get fired they don’t spend money. They don’t go to the local coffee shop, or out to eat, or put their kid in camp or daycare. Their spending slows and the businesses that have relied on receiving that spending aren’t getting that business/money so they not only make less but need fewer workers or have fewer hours for people to work. Trickle down economics from billionaires and mega millionaires DOES NOT WORK. Money in the hands of poor people, working class people and actual middle class people grows the economy.

People who sign their kids up for camps or classes or travel sports. People who go to dinner or rent or see a movie. People who buy diapers, school supplies, yard and lawn care items. Who hire someone to update the bathroom. No $-they’ll live with the ugly tile.

You know why the markets like certainty? Because people get nervous about spending when things are chaotic and they don’t know what’s going to happen.

Trump is America’s abusive husband/father and everyone’s walking on eggshells wondering when he’s going to explode or what he’s going to break next. That makes people cautious and is not conducive to economic growth.

Applause from a laid off econ major.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your husband is an anecdotal example. It's personal for you. I get it.

Look at the employment numbers in the context of history. It's not bad at all.

If you lose your job, it’s impactful, no matter how you attempt to minimize it for that poster.

Just bragging now.... I've always been a saver. I've never had less than a year of living expenses.

I do not rely on anyone including the government. Stop living hand-to-mouth.

This place is filled with DC animals whose world is being shaken to the core, and a large part of the country is saying good.

Why is that? The entitlement mentality is rampant here. As if! You think you are necessary in government? Get real.

75% of the federal govt could be cut a few would miss it. 70% of the federal budget is transfer payments (money going from one person to another).

No one cares less about your "fundamental transformation".


"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama

Do you want to spew your nonsense at the nearly 2M Floridians on Medicaid (the largest in the country). God forbid some of us in DC would like to help those out in a bad@sskward state.

You’re not better than other people. Your savings make you no more, or no less worthy of dignity and respect.

I never said I'm better than others. I'm saying stop putting me on the line for medical spending of complete strangers because you want to feel good about yourself by spending other people's money.

I'm further saying that you're probably one of the takers. Are we clear?

What’s your name? I’m going to use every single dollar of my tax refund to vote these @sshole MAGA congress out and I’d love to do it in tribute to you because I’m a generous soul. 😘

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your husband is an anecdotal example. It's personal for you. I get it.

Look at the employment numbers in the context of history. It's not bad at all.

If you lose your job, it’s impactful, no matter how you attempt to minimize it for that poster.

Just bragging now.... I've always been a saver. I've never had less than a year of living expenses.

I do not rely on anyone including the government. Stop living hand-to-mouth.

This place is filled with DC animals whose world is being shaken to the core, and a large part of the country is saying good.

Why is that? The entitlement mentality is rampant here. As if! You think you are necessary in government? Get real.

75% of the federal govt could be cut a few would miss it. 70% of the federal budget is transfer payments (money going from one person to another).

No one cares less about your "fundamental transformation".


"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama

Do you want to spew your nonsense at the nearly 2M Floridians on Medicaid (the largest in the country). God forbid some of us in DC would like to help those out in a bad@sskward state.

You’re not better than other people. Your savings make you no more, or no less worthy of dignity and respect.

I never said I'm better than others. I'm saying stop putting me on the line for medical spending of complete strangers because you want to feel good about yourself by spending other people's money.

I'm further saying that you're probably one of the takers. Are we clear?

Hmmm, do you use the interstate highway system? how about meat inspected by the USDA? Or weather from NOAA? Or drugs tested and approved by the FDA? I could go on, but we live in a society where some people use some of the offered services, and others use other services. People who bike don't use highways. People who are vegetarians don't need meat inspectors. See? So you pay for services the Congress approves and the Executive is supposed to administer. It isn't a pay-as-you-go system, it is a government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. Sadly MAGA will spin this as Biden’s fault or lazy immigrants who are taking both public funds and good paying jobs. There is no reasoning, no understanding of economics, no acknowledgment of public goods or public will. It’s all ME ME ME.

Anyone who is upset with the direction of this country needs to do SOMETHING about it.

Volunteer
Protest
Boycott
Speak up, speak out. Especially people with money.

Why does everyone in DC assume everyone miserable. We are not.

For now. Only a matter of time.

We found one of the people who knows nothing about economics!

Basic economics—when you haphazardly, randomly, and suddenly fire thousands of federal workers throughout the country and do the same with government research grants, programs, contracts and subsidies—you f**k up the economy. You make it worse by giving trillions of tax cuts to billionaires and multimillionaires while cutting Medicaid, SNAP, Veterans programs, and other funding that affects people throughout the United States. Add TACO Trumps tariffs and masked ICE “agents” terrorizing people and you’ve created a shit economy.

News flash—when regular people get fired they don’t spend money. They don’t go to the local coffee shop, or out to eat, or put their kid in camp or daycare. Their spending slows and the businesses that have relied on receiving that spending aren’t getting that business/money so they not only make less but need fewer workers or have fewer hours for people to work. Trickle down economics from billionaires and mega millionaires DOES NOT WORK. Money in the hands of poor people, working class people and actual middle class people grows the economy.

People who sign their kids up for camps or classes or travel sports. People who go to dinner or rent or see a movie. People who buy diapers, school supplies, yard and lawn care items. Who hire someone to update the bathroom. No $-they’ll live with the ugly tile.

You know why the markets like certainty? Because people get nervous about spending when things are chaotic and they don’t know what’s going to happen.

Trump is America’s abusive husband/father and everyone’s walking on eggshells wondering when he’s going to explode or what he’s going to break next. That makes people cautious and is not conducive to economic growth.

Well said.
We are interdependent.

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

Solution- more immigration!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

They're laying people off because of greed.

Companies have been laying off and using AI to replace them in the past couple years, and already are hiring and moving back to people because AI doesn't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

They're laying people off because of greed.

Companies have been laying off and using AI to replace them in the past couple years, and already are hiring and moving back to people because AI doesn't work.

AI is ever evolving and is only going to get exponentially more advanced and capable as years pass. Jobs are going to continue to be lost at a rapid pace no matter what administration is in power because companies have a responsibility to their shareholders, not society at large. And getting your labor cost as close to zero as possible is good for business. And the rub is we are so far gone that even if we ban AI, companies in other countries will allow it and run our companies out of business because they have close to zero labor costs and massive efficiency surpluses because of AI.

We are in for a big shock in the next decade and both parties are too beholden to big corporations and big donors to make any changes. We’re screwed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

They're laying people off because of greed.

Companies have been laying off and using AI to replace them in the past couple years, and already are hiring and moving back to people because AI doesn't work.

AI is ever evolving and is only going to get exponentially more advanced and capable as years pass. Jobs are going to continue to be lost at a rapid pace no matter what administration is in power because companies have a responsibility to their shareholders, not society at large. And getting your labor cost as close to zero as possible is good for business. And the rub is we are so far gone that even if we ban AI, companies in other countries will allow it and run our companies out of business because they have close to zero labor costs and massive efficiency surpluses because of AI.

We are in for a big shock in the next decade and both parties are too beholden to big corporations and big donors to make any changes. We’re screwed.

Yes I see this in our future as well. Why is it so obvious to some of us but other people just ignore it all?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry, the government jobs report will
come out shortly and paint a completely different, rosy picture. Nothing to see here, folks.

So here is the thing. The report today is the ADP report, which is only private sector jobs. The government release later this week will be for ALL jobs. Given the demise of federal jobs, the report coming should be pretty awful. If the Trump administration wants to try to sell that private sector jobs are down but there is net growth because of public sector despite the DOGE impact, then his adherents are even more ignorant than anticipated.

Quite the conundrum for MAGA.

But however MAGA lies about it all, inflation is growing and since Trump has tanked the dollar, inflation will only increase exponentially. This doesn’t even account for inflationary pressures from tariffs which are a mess in terms of policy implementation.

I bought groceries tonight. I am VERY much a bargain shopper. I'll gloat when it says at the register I saved $30 when the total I have to pay is $40, even though I know that means I paid what the prices should be. Because I have a lot of basics stocked up all I got was milk, plain yogurt, an onion, a small head of cabbage, couple boxes of store brand shredded wheat on sale,and a few cans of tomatoes and pineapple (fresh pineapple was $5, I think it would yield a bit more than my 2 cans but they added up to just 3.40). But definitely prices have continued to go up, except for eggs. More than $5 for an 8 oz block of kraft cheese.

Also this store in the past has had a pretty good produce selection but, for example, the only cabbage they had (besides Napa) was green. No radicchio which they used to always have, not even red cabbage. A lot of other stuff has disappeared. Makes me wonder--high prices and also lack of farm labor???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

They're laying people off because of greed.

Companies have been laying off and using AI to replace them in the past couple years, and already are hiring and moving back to people because AI doesn't work.

Your view of AI is naive. It's rapidly improving (measured in months, not years). If companies are rehiring, it's because they're still calibrating around the current state of AI (which will be many times better in just a year). AI, plus the rapid pace of robotic innovation, spells doom for the job market. And technology cannot be held back. If the US tried to put the brakes on it, China and others would continue accelerating. Neither party has a solution for what's coming but, of the two, we know that the Republicans will do everything in their power to make sure people suffer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is so dumb. Posters like myself have been warning everyone that we need to curtail AI for years now because it will end up rendering a large percentage of employees obsolete. This is just the beginning. Andrew Yang was warning about this but he was too smart for the middlebrow masses. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Microsoft is about to lay off 9,000 employees. It’s not because business is bad. Their stock is almost $500/share now and they’re one of the richest companies in the world. They’re laying people off because of AI.

Most people on this board are going to be laid off and need UBI in less than 10 years. The Dems aren’t going to save you. Trump isn’t going to save you. It’s over.

They're laying people off because of greed.

Companies have been laying off and using AI to replace them in the past couple years, and already are hiring and moving back to people because AI doesn't work.

Your view of AI is naive. It's rapidly improving (measured in months, not years). If companies are rehiring, it's because they're still calibrating around the current state of AI (which will be many times better in just a year). AI, plus the rapid pace of robotic innovation, spells doom for the job market. And technology cannot be held back. If the US tried to put the brakes on it, China and others would continue accelerating. Neither party has a solution for what's coming but, of the two, we know that the Republicans will do everything in their power to make sure people suffer.

Republicans would absolutely love to bring back slavery. They’re dying to pace around with whips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your husband is an anecdotal example. It's personal for you. I get it.

Look at the employment numbers in the context of history. It's not bad at all.

If you lose your job, it’s impactful, no matter how you attempt to minimize it for that poster.

Just bragging now.... I've always been a saver. I've never had less than a year of living expenses.

I do not rely on anyone including the government. Stop living hand-to-mouth.

This place is filled with DC animals whose world is being shaken to the core, and a large part of the country is saying good.

Why is that? The entitlement mentality is rampant here. As if! You think you are necessary in government? Get real.

75% of the federal govt could be cut a few would miss it. 70% of the federal budget is transfer payments (money going from one person to another).

No one cares less about your "fundamental transformation".


"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama

Do you want to spew your nonsense at the nearly 2M Floridians on Medicaid (the largest in the country). God forbid some of us in DC would like to help those out in a bad@sskward state.

You’re not better than other people. Your savings make you no more, or no less worthy of dignity and respect.

I never said I'm better than others. I'm saying stop putting me on the line for medical spending of complete strangers because you want to feel good about yourself by spending other people's money.

I'm further saying that you're probably one of the takers. Are we clear?

Hmmm, do you use the interstate highway system? how about meat inspected by the USDA? Or weather from NOAA? Or drugs tested and approved by the FDA? I could go on, but we live in a society where some people use some of the offered services, and others use other services. People who bike don't use highways. People who are vegetarians don't need meat inspectors. See? So you pay for services the Congress approves and the Executive is supposed to administer. It isn't a pay-as-you-go system, it is a government.

They for granted how good we have it.

A Day in the Life of Sue Republican

Sue gets up at 6 a.m. and fills her coffeepot with water to prepare her morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With her first swallow of coffee, she takes her daily medication. Her medications are safe because some commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of her medications are paid for by her employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance – now Sue gets it too.

She prepares her morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Sue’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. In the shower, she reaches for her shampoo. Her bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient because some whiney liberal fought for her right to know what she was putting on her body.

Sue dresses, walks outside, and takes a deep breath. The air she breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting the air. She walks to the subway station for her government-subsidized ride to work. It saves her considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, so everyone has the opportunity to be a contributor.

Sue begins her work day. She has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays, and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Sue’s employer pays these standards because her employer doesn’t want his employees calling the union. If Sue is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, she’ll get a workers compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn’t think she should lose her home because of her temporary misfortune.

It’s noon and Sue needs to make a bank deposit so she can pay some bills. Sue’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Sue’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Sue has to pay her Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and her below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Sue and the government would be better off if she was educated and earned more money over her lifetime.

Sue arrives home from work. She plans to visit her father this evening at his farm home in the country. She gets in her car for the drive. Her car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.

She arrives at her childhood home. Her generation was the third to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.

She is happy to see her father, who is now retired. Her father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Sue wouldn’t have to.

Sue gets back in her car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Sue enjoys throughout her day.

Sue agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m self-made and believe everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

[Anonymous]

Sometimes I'm glad I am old and maybe will be dead before the worst happens.