| Its a red flag that you are livid. Learn to give grace and control your emotions. |
This^. Your son shouldn't have told you and you shouldn't have gotten all riled up about it. You are over involved in his life and will cause more trouble for the couple than his MIL's extra enthusiasm. |
| This is one reason why you "don't ask the parents first" in this day and age. It's best to ask your actual girlfriend first. |
| So... both of you are making your son's proposal to his girlfriend about you. |
This^. Don't make it his MIL vs her MIL. That's worse than inconsequential people knowing couple is serious and planning to marry. Why do you care so much about it? Anything in your own history triggering it? |
What couple needs is you and her mom on same side, adding to their happiness instead of adding bitterness by picking on each other. |
+1 You and her mom are the two people in the world who love this couple the most. You'll not do them a favor by alienating them from the other. Try putting common sense above insignificant matters. |
| Proposal should be less about surprising her and more towards making her happy, which includes respecting her loved ones. |
Artists are not all flakey. That would be like saying all 25 to 26 yo old men are incels who listen to Andrew Tate. |
| Being conservative catholics, my DH's family have a lot of judgment about "shacking up". If my daughters were nearly engaged, announcing it to rid of the chatter would be such a relief and my daughters or their BFs couldn't care less if I would or wouldn't. |
Agreed. OP should be telling her son that its no big deal and he would rather have ILs who are excited about this relationship than ones who aren't. |
He needs to set boundaries with his mother first. |
Only there are two ahole mithers, one didn't consider secrecy, other who wants to inject bitterness in couple's lives. |
100% |
PO was using sarcasm to highlight the real issue. |