Is UVA's reputation declining?

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Anonymous wrote:No. UVA is now, and has always been, a top 25 school, and one of the top 5 public schools in the country.

It used to be a t15 school and as of late is falling out of the t25.

If you are referring to the US news rankings, then you had simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes when the rankings first came out UVA was firmly inside the top 20, but at that time the rankings were strictly reputational rankings. Since then the formula has changed several times and taking many things into account, but if you look at UVA’s reputation ranking alone in US News - which is still one that a point among many in its formula - it’s still well within the top 20, and its overall US News ranking has been consistently in the mid 20s for years. There’s no evidence at all that it’s dropping.

These statistics are easily verifiable with a little bit of research. In other words, one of us knows what they’re talking about and the other one is talking out of their ass.

Seriously. It’s been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997, with the exception of two years. Some of you should just fire up that old Google machine before commenting.

So...it hasn't been ranked between 20 and 25 every year. And it used to be ranked higher (t15 school).

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 when they ranked far fewer schools. It was only in the top 20 in the early-mid 90s when they ranked far fewer schools, and some years it was above 20 even then (88-89 and 91-93). Since the rankings expanded, it has been between 20 and 25. Again, Google is your friend.

In recent years it has fallen out of the top 25. Google is your friend.

And that’s why I mentioned in the previous comment that there were two years (2020-21, and actually a third in 2016) where it wasn’t between 20-25. Since then it has been back between 20-25.

Reading is your friend in addition to Google.

What I'm hearing, and what the data says, is that UVA used to be ranked 15th, then was ranked between 20-25, and in recent years has started to fall out of the t25 all together.

Logic and reason are clearly not your friends.

dp.
It has not "started to fall out of the top25."

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Anonymous wrote:No. UVA is now, and has always been, a top 25 school, and one of the top 5 public schools in the country.

It used to be a t15 school and as of late is falling out of the t25.

If you are referring to the US news rankings, then you had simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes when the rankings first came out UVA was firmly inside the top 20, but at that time the rankings were strictly reputational rankings. Since then the formula has changed several times and taking many things into account, but if you look at UVA’s reputation ranking alone in US News - which is still one that a point among many in its formula - it’s still well within the top 20, and its overall US News ranking has been consistently in the mid 20s for years. There’s no evidence at all that it’s dropping.

These statistics are easily verifiable with a little bit of research. In other words, one of us knows what they’re talking about and the other one is talking out of their ass.

Seriously. It’s been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997, with the exception of two years. Some of you should just fire up that old Google machine before commenting.

So...it hasn't been ranked between 20 and 25 every year. And it used to be ranked higher (t15 school).

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 when they ranked far fewer schools. It was only in the top 20 in the early-mid 90s when they ranked far fewer schools, and some years it was above 20 even then (88-89 and 91-93). Since the rankings expanded, it has been between 20 and 25. Again, Google is your friend.

In recent years it has fallen out of the top 25. Google is your friend.

And that’s why I mentioned in the previous comment that there were two years (2020-21, and actually a third in 2016) where it wasn’t between 20-25. Since then it has been back between 20-25.

Reading is your friend in addition to Google.

What I'm hearing, and what the data says, is that UVA used to be ranked 15th, then was ranked between 20-25, and in recent years has started to fall out of the t25 all together.

Logic and reason are clearly not your friends.

It was ranked 15 once 40 years ago when they only ranked 25 or so schools. When they expanded the rankings in the late 90s, it went into the 20s and has been between 20-25 almost every year since.

A person with logic and reason could understand this because it is all quite simple.

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Anonymous wrote:No. UVA is now, and has always been, a top 25 school, and one of the top 5 public schools in the country.

It used to be a t15 school and as of late is falling out of the t25.

If you are referring to the US news rankings, then you had simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes when the rankings first came out UVA was firmly inside the top 20, but at that time the rankings were strictly reputational rankings. Since then the formula has changed several times and taking many things into account, but if you look at UVA’s reputation ranking alone in US News - which is still one that a point among many in its formula - it’s still well within the top 20, and its overall US News ranking has been consistently in the mid 20s for years. There’s no evidence at all that it’s dropping.

These statistics are easily verifiable with a little bit of research. In other words, one of us knows what they’re talking about and the other one is talking out of their ass.

Seriously. It’s been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997, with the exception of two years. Some of you should just fire up that old Google machine before commenting.

So...it hasn't been ranked between 20 and 25 every year. And it used to be ranked higher (t15 school).

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 when they ranked far fewer schools. It was only in the top 20 in the early-mid 90s when they ranked far fewer schools, and some years it was above 20 even then (88-89 and 91-93). Since the rankings expanded, it has been between 20 and 25. Again, Google is your friend.

In recent years it has fallen out of the top 25. Google is your friend.

And that’s why I mentioned in the previous comment that there were two years (2020-21, and actually a third in 2016) where it wasn’t between 20-25. Since then it has been back between 20-25.

Reading is your friend in addition to Google.

What I'm hearing, and what the data says, is that UVA used to be ranked 15th, then was ranked between 20-25, and in recent years has started to fall out of the t25 all together.

Logic and reason are clearly not your friends.

dp.
It has not "started to fall out of the top25."

Unfortunately, in recent years, but not before recent years, it has.

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Anonymous wrote:No. UVA is now, and has always been, a top 25 school, and one of the top 5 public schools in the country.

It used to be a t15 school and as of late is falling out of the t25.

If you are referring to the US news rankings, then you had simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes when the rankings first came out UVA was firmly inside the top 20, but at that time the rankings were strictly reputational rankings. Since then the formula has changed several times and taking many things into account, but if you look at UVA’s reputation ranking alone in US News - which is still one that a point among many in its formula - it’s still well within the top 20, and its overall US News ranking has been consistently in the mid 20s for years. There’s no evidence at all that it’s dropping.

These statistics are easily verifiable with a little bit of research. In other words, one of us knows what they’re talking about and the other one is talking out of their ass.

Seriously. It’s been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997, with the exception of two years. Some of you should just fire up that old Google machine before commenting.

So...it hasn't been ranked between 20 and 25 every year. And it used to be ranked higher (t15 school).

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 when they ranked far fewer schools. It was only in the top 20 in the early-mid 90s when they ranked far fewer schools, and some years it was above 20 even then (88-89 and 91-93). Since the rankings expanded, it has been between 20 and 25. Again, Google is your friend.

In recent years it has fallen out of the top 25. Google is your friend.

And that’s why I mentioned in the previous comment that there were two years (2020-21, and actually a third in 2016) where it wasn’t between 20-25. Since then it has been back between 20-25.

Reading is your friend in addition to Google.

What I'm hearing, and what the data says, is that UVA used to be ranked 15th, then was ranked between 20-25, and in recent years has started to fall out of the t25 all together.

Logic and reason are clearly not your friends.

It was ranked 15 once 40 years ago when they only ranked 25 or so schools. When they expanded the rankings in the late 90s, it went into the 20s and has been between 20-25 almost every year since.

A person with logic and reason could understand this because it is all quite simple.

So what I'm hearing is that it used to be ranked #15, then fell to #25 because of increased competition, and then in the late 2010s, early 2020s, has started to fall out of the t25 altogether?

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t know if its reputation is declining, because my DC has stopped even considering it as a possibility. We live in NOVA and my DC has 4 A-s on their transcript. If your grades are not all As (no A-) it is almost impossible to get it. UVA is completely GPA driven, despite their claim of holistic admissions.

Have you read the threads here and on reddit? This idea that A- isn’t allowed just isn’t true.

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UVA serves the whole state and can’t accept all of the qualified applicants that FCPS produces. It’s just not large enough.

Students realize that a UVA acceptance isn’t guaranteed even for the best students, so UVA is losing its buzz as they get excited about other schools that are more likely to accept them. UVA has become a victim of its own success.

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Anonymous wrote:No. UVA is now, and has always been, a top 25 school, and one of the top 5 public schools in the country.

It used to be a t15 school and as of late is falling out of the t25.

If you are referring to the US news rankings, then you had simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes when the rankings first came out UVA was firmly inside the top 20, but at that time the rankings were strictly reputational rankings. Since then the formula has changed several times and taking many things into account, but if you look at UVA’s reputation ranking alone in US News - which is still one that a point among many in its formula - it’s still well within the top 20, and its overall US News ranking has been consistently in the mid 20s for years. There’s no evidence at all that it’s dropping.

These statistics are easily verifiable with a little bit of research. In other words, one of us knows what they’re talking about and the other one is talking out of their ass.

Seriously. It’s been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997, with the exception of two years. Some of you should just fire up that old Google machine before commenting.

So...it hasn't been ranked between 20 and 25 every year. And it used to be ranked higher (t15 school).

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 when they ranked far fewer schools. It was only in the top 20 in the early-mid 90s when they ranked far fewer schools, and some years it was above 20 even then (88-89 and 91-93). Since the rankings expanded, it has been between 20 and 25. Again, Google is your friend.

In recent years it has fallen out of the top 25. Google is your friend.

And that’s why I mentioned in the previous comment that there were two years (2020-21, and actually a third in 2016) where it wasn’t between 20-25. Since then it has been back between 20-25.

Reading is your friend in addition to Google.

What I'm hearing, and what the data says, is that UVA used to be ranked 15th, then was ranked between 20-25, and in recent years has started to fall out of the t25 all together.

Logic and reason are clearly not your friends.

It was ranked 15 once 40 years ago when they only ranked 25 or so schools. When they expanded the rankings in the late 90s, it went into the 20s and has been between 20-25 almost every year since.

A person with logic and reason could understand this because it is all quite simple.

So what I'm hearing is that it used to be ranked #15, then fell to #25 because of increased competition, and then in the late 2010s, early 2020s, has started to fall out of the t25 altogether?

BE QUIET. You need to stop spreading lies immediately. You're JEALOUS and it's SICK AND DISGUSTING. GET HELP.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t know if its reputation is declining, because my DC has stopped even considering it as a possibility. We live in NOVA and my DC has 4 A-s on their transcript. If your grades are not all As (no A-) it is almost impossible to get it. UVA is completely GPA driven, despite their claim of holistic admissions.

Have you read the threads here and on reddit? This idea that A- isn’t allowed just isn’t true.

DP. Four of them is going to make a difference when they’re are plenty of kids who have none.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t know if its reputation is declining, because my DC has stopped even considering it as a possibility. We live in NOVA and my DC has 4 A-s on their transcript. If your grades are not all As (no A-) it is almost impossible to get it. UVA is completely GPA driven, despite their claim of holistic admissions.

Have you read the threads here and on reddit? This idea that A- isn’t allowed just isn’t true.

If you get an A- it is worth a 3.7 in the GPA calculations. If you get 3 or 4 A-s your GPA will not meet the 4.4 GPA threshold needed for UVA. So 3 or 4 A-s will absolutely keep you out of UVA. It is pretty clear in NOVA they have a school by school GPA cut off.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA serves the whole state and can’t accept all of the qualified applicants that FCPS produces. It’s just not large enough.

Students realize that a UVA acceptance isn’t guaranteed even for the best students, so UVA is losing its buzz as they get excited about other schools that are more likely to accept them. UVA has become a victim of its own success.

They’re hardly victims. They’ll be fine.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA serves the whole state and can’t accept all of the qualified applicants that FCPS produces. It’s just not large enough.

Students realize that a UVA acceptance isn’t guaranteed even for the best students, so UVA is losing its buzz as they get excited about other schools that are more likely to accept them. UVA has become a victim of its own success.

They’re hardly victims. They’ll be fine.

I know.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA serves the whole state and can’t accept all of the qualified applicants that FCPS produces. It’s just not large enough.

Students realize that a UVA acceptance isn’t guaranteed even for the best students, so UVA is losing its buzz as they get excited about other schools that are more likely to accept them. UVA has become a victim of its own success.

They’re hardly victims. They’ll be fine.

I know.

Other VA schools are rising in popularity, though.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA serves the whole state and can’t accept all of the qualified applicants that FCPS produces. It’s just not large enough.

Students realize that a UVA acceptance isn’t guaranteed even for the best students, so UVA is losing its buzz as they get excited about other schools that are more likely to accept them. UVA has become a victim of its own success.

They’re hardly victims. They’ll be fine.

I know.

Other VA schools are rising in popularity, though.

Fantastic! There’s a place for everyone. We’re so fortunate.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA serves the whole state and can’t accept all of the qualified applicants that FCPS produces. It’s just not large enough.

Students realize that a UVA acceptance isn’t guaranteed even for the best students, so UVA is losing its buzz as they get excited about other schools that are more likely to accept them. UVA has become a victim of its own success.

They’re hardly victims. They’ll be fine.

I know.

Other VA schools are rising in popularity, though.

STOP. JUST STOP!!!! You probably went to VaTech, you probably think your school can relate in any way to that university whose illustrious history and repute remains unmatched on the national stage. IT CANNOT. SORRY! JUST STOP SPREADING THE LIES. It's embarrassing for you and it's disgusting for the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:No. UVA is now, and has always been, a top 25 school, and one of the top 5 public schools in the country.

It used to be a t15 school and as of late is falling out of the t25.

If you are referring to the US news rankings, then you had simply have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes when the rankings first came out UVA was firmly inside the top 20, but at that time the rankings were strictly reputational rankings. Since then the formula has changed several times and taking many things into account, but if you look at UVA’s reputation ranking alone in US News - which is still one that a point among many in its formula - it’s still well within the top 20, and its overall US News ranking has been consistently in the mid 20s for years. There’s no evidence at all that it’s dropping.

These statistics are easily verifiable with a little bit of research. In other words, one of us knows what they’re talking about and the other one is talking out of their ass.

Seriously. It’s been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997, with the exception of two years. Some of you should just fire up that old Google machine before commenting.

So...it hasn't been ranked between 20 and 25 every year. And it used to be ranked higher (t15 school).

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 when they ranked far fewer schools. It was only in the top 20 in the early-mid 90s when they ranked far fewer schools, and some years it was above 20 even then (88-89 and 91-93). Since the rankings expanded, it has been between 20 and 25. Again, Google is your friend.

In recent years it has fallen out of the top 25. Google is your friend.

And that’s why I mentioned in the previous comment that there were two years (2020-21, and actually a third in 2016) where it wasn’t between 20-25. Since then it has been back between 20-25.

Reading is your friend in addition to Google.

What I'm hearing, and what the data says, is that UVA used to be ranked 15th, then was ranked between 20-25, and in recent years has started to fall out of the t25 all together.

Logic and reason are clearly not your friends.

It was ranked 15 once 40 years ago when they only ranked 25 or so schools. When they expanded the rankings in the late 90s, it went into the 20s and has been between 20-25 almost every year since.

A person with logic and reason could understand this because it is all quite simple.

So what I'm hearing is that it used to be ranked #15, then fell to #25 because of increased competition, and then in the late 2010s, early 2020s, has started to fall out of the t25 altogether?

No. A school that has spent the last 3 years, and 6 of the last 8, ranked 25 or better is not “starting to fall” outside of the t25.

It was only ranked 15 in 1985 because they didn’t include schools like Georgetown and Notre Dame. When those schools were included in the next ranking in 1988, it fell back (was #20 that year). It was never really t15. And as I said, it was already above 20 in several years before the large rankings expansion, where it then ended up firmly in the 20s. The “increased competition” part of your comment is maybe the only accurate part.

It was ranked 24 in 2002. It was 24 last fall. That’s not some sign of declining reputation if we are using USNWR rankings as a proxy (which we shouldn’t, but that’s a different conversation).