Is UVA's reputation declining?

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Good in the easy subjects with no correct answers. Lots of drinking. Never been rigorous.

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Anonymous wrote:Declining? Hardly.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/uvas-56th-rhodes-scholar-targets-2-oxford-degrees-medical-school

A story about one student is pretty irrelevant and looks a bit desperate.

57 students actually

The numbers of students who got a specific scholarship in the entire history of UVA doesn’t address the question of this thread. It is pretty irrelevant.

Not true. The thread asks “is UVA’s reputation declining?” Consistently winning Rhodes Scholarships - the most prestigious award that an undergraduate can win and a good proxy for reputation - shows that it is not.

The Rhodes scholarship is not the most prestigious award an undergrad can win. That is lunacy.

It is for undergrads to get a free masters degree (non-professional) at oxford requiring them to move there and attend school there.

Most undergrads have zero interest in this and would not apply. For example, if you know what you want to do, why would you waste years getting a useless masters degree?

Students going directly into professional grad school, or with a nice job lined up, or a plan for after college, would view this as pointless.

Your response is laughable. Most undergrads “would not apply“ because they don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of ever winning one. Name me a more prestigious scholarship awarded to American undergraduates. I’ll wait.

DP. It is a data point, but it is a really limited and narrow data point. 57 UVA alumni have been awarded Rhodes Scholarships, but there are 250K living alumni and perhaps twice that since Rhodes started awarding scholarships. 57 out of 500,000 is not the best indicator of what the other 499,943 achieved.

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Anonymous wrote:Declining? Hardly.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/uvas-56th-rhodes-scholar-targets-2-oxford-degrees-medical-school

A story about one student is pretty irrelevant and looks a bit desperate.

57 students actually

The numbers of students who got a specific scholarship in the entire history of UVA doesn’t address the question of this thread. It is pretty irrelevant.

Not true. The thread asks “is UVA’s reputation declining?” Consistently winning Rhodes Scholarships - the most prestigious award that an undergraduate can win and a good proxy for reputation - shows that it is not.

Do you realize what a Rhodes Scholarship is? You get to study at Oxford, which has a great reputation.

Having 57 over the entire history of UVA is pretty weak. Harvard recently had 10 in a single year, class of 2024.

If anything, this shows the declining reputation of UVA.

UVA has the most Rhodes Scholars of any public university in the US.

West Point.

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Anonymous wrote:Declining? Hardly.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/uvas-56th-rhodes-scholar-targets-2-oxford-degrees-medical-school

A story about one student is pretty irrelevant and looks a bit desperate.

57 students actually

The numbers of students who got a specific scholarship in the entire history of UVA doesn’t address the question of this thread. It is pretty irrelevant.

Not true. The thread asks “is UVA’s reputation declining?” Consistently winning Rhodes Scholarships - the most prestigious award that an undergraduate can win and a good proxy for reputation - shows that it is not.

Do you realize what a Rhodes Scholarship is? You get to study at Oxford, which has a great reputation.

Having 57 over the entire history of UVA is pretty weak. Harvard recently had 10 in a single year, class of 2024.

If anything, this shows the declining reputation of UVA.

UVA has the most Rhodes Scholars of any public university in the US.

That's not a very useful metric. A Rhodes Scholarship is a very old award. And therefore it tends to be older universities that predominate. UVA is among the oldest universities in the country, but it's 50 or so Rhodes scholars doesn't compare to the more than 300 from Harvard. And on a per capita basis, neither compare to West Point or Annapolis, which are much smaller schools. And these days, there really aren't a lot of top students applying for a scholarship for grad school at Oxford. It's not 1935 anymore.

[Anonymous]

I’m OOS. UVA still is a great school. I think the issue is some of its peers have more momentum. Schools like Texas, Florida, UGA and UW are seen as rising stars. Even Ohio State is seen as a rising star.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m OOS. UVA still is a great school. I think the issue is some of its peers have more momentum. Schools like Texas, Florida, UGA and UW are seen as rising stars. Even Ohio State is seen as a rising star.

Big ten and SEC

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Anonymous wrote:Declining? Hardly.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/uvas-56th-rhodes-scholar-targets-2-oxford-degrees-medical-school

A story about one student is pretty irrelevant and looks a bit desperate.

57 students actually

The numbers of students who got a specific scholarship in the entire history of UVA doesn’t address the question of this thread. It is pretty irrelevant.

Not true. The thread asks “is UVA’s reputation declining?” Consistently winning Rhodes Scholarships - the most prestigious award that an undergraduate can win and a good proxy for reputation - shows that it is not.

Do you realize what a Rhodes Scholarship is? You get to study at Oxford, which has a great reputation.

Having 57 over the entire history of UVA is pretty weak. Harvard recently had 10 in a single year, class of 2024.

If anything, this shows the declining reputation of UVA.

UVA has the most Rhodes Scholars of any public university in the US.

That's not a very useful metric. A Rhodes Scholarship is a very old award. And therefore it tends to be older universities that predominate. UVA is among the oldest universities in the country, but it's 50 or so Rhodes scholars doesn't compare to the more than 300 from Harvard. And on a per capita basis, neither compare to West Point or Annapolis, which are much smaller schools. And these days, there really aren't a lot of top students applying for a scholarship for grad school at Oxford. It's not 1935 anymore.

The Rhodes started in 1902, not 1700. It’s not THAT old, and it’s certainly younger than the vast majority of the best universities in the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Declining? Hardly.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/uvas-56th-rhodes-scholar-targets-2-oxford-degrees-medical-school

A story about one student is pretty irrelevant and looks a bit desperate.

57 students actually

The numbers of students who got a specific scholarship in the entire history of UVA doesn’t address the question of this thread. It is pretty irrelevant.

Not true. The thread asks “is UVA’s reputation declining?” Consistently winning Rhodes Scholarships - the most prestigious award that an undergraduate can win and a good proxy for reputation - shows that it is not.

Do you realize what a Rhodes Scholarship is? You get to study at Oxford, which has a great reputation.

Having 57 over the entire history of UVA is pretty weak. Harvard recently had 10 in a single year, class of 2024.

If anything, this shows the declining reputation of UVA.

UVA has the most Rhodes Scholars of any public university in the US.

That's not a very useful metric. A Rhodes Scholarship is a very old award. And therefore it tends to be older universities that predominate. UVA is among the oldest universities in the country, but it's 50 or so Rhodes scholars doesn't compare to the more than 300 from Harvard. And on a per capita basis, neither compare to West Point or Annapolis, which are much smaller schools. And these days, there really aren't a lot of top students applying for a scholarship for grad school at Oxford. It's not 1935 anymore.

The Rhodes started in 1902, not 1700. It’s not THAT old, and it’s certainly younger than the vast majority of the best universities in the US.

Given the excellent T20 universities in the USA, going to Oxford isn’t such a great opportunity anymore. Kind of a step down.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m OOS. UVA still is a great school. I think the issue is some of its peers have more momentum. Schools like Texas, Florida, UGA and UW are seen as rising stars. Even Ohio State is seen as a rising star.

Big ten and SEC

There are schools that became research powerhouses first and now are becoming more selective for undergraduate admissions. UVA is the opposite. It was selective for undergraduate admission and is trying to become a more significant research player and expanding beyond primarily medical research.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m OOS. UVA still is a great school. I think the issue is some of its peers have more momentum. Schools like Texas, Florida, UGA and UW are seen as rising stars. Even Ohio State is seen as a rising star.

Big ten and SEC

Large, growing states.