Will Maga just watch the sinking ship or admit they were wrong?

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They will just watch and pretend it's Biden's fault.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind this is a forum where people are in denial that DC has any problems, including crime, and would never vote for anyone that might actually fix those problems. They would rather get carjacked by a 12 year old than admit voting "wrong."

So don't be surprised if others are equally stubborn and short sighted.

Simply not true. Every liberal DC resident I know wants MORE done to stop crime, specifically, those arrested to be prosecuted instead of no papered.

The arrest vs. prosecution numbers for DC are terrible. Why? Because so many who are apprehended are no-papered by prosecutors and released.

Good friends were carjacked. They provided excellent descriptions of the suspects. Their car was found hours later, and the suspects were still in it. The suspects arrested were 14, 16, 17, and either 18 or 19 and all matched the descriptions exactly. When I gave my friends a ride to pick up their recovered car, they found out that the teens had all been released no-paper because the OAG decided not to file formal charges. How the BLEEP can a competent prosecutor decide not to file charges on teens who matched the descriptions given and were arrested in the stolen car? That's a slam dunk case.

Their story isn't unique, either. The DC and NOVA subreddits are full of similar stories. DC residents are beyond frustrated with crime. I now have more friends outside of DC (Arlington, Alexandria, Tyson's) than in DC. These moves were not to plant suburban roots to grow their families, but as the result of them being sick of being the victims of crime where the perpetrators were caught but never prosecuted.

Just because I'm a liberal who believes in basic human rights, it doesn't mean I want no police or to have a lawless society. Oh, and, guns? Love 'em. All for the responsible gun ownership. I just don't think citizens need access to high-powered weapons like AR-15s. I've shot one of those a handful of times and they are not for hunting. Those are strictly for killing - total evisceration of the flesh. Maybe if the animal you're hunting is an elephant or rhino, but I think even an AR-15 vs black bear or grizzly would be a total meat-shredder event.

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Anonymous wrote:Here ‘s what I can’t understand:

Don’t MAGA voters love national parks too?
Don’t they want there to be someone looking for a cancer cure?
Don’t they prefer the great USA over Russia?
Don’t they like and use social security?
In years past wouldn’t they to think the idea of invading Canada is incomprehensible?

I am actually dumbfounded that they don’t want any of this .

It's a cult. There is no reasoning with this.

It's a "cult" that now includes a majority of voters, that gained former Democratic voters in every demographic. Another way to describe the Trump "cult" is... the American electorate.

Don't come in here with false statements. He got less than 50% of all votes. That's a plurality, not a majority.

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Anonymous wrote:The MAGAs are now saying it’s good to be in a recession because low interest rates.

They can justify anything. I think Trump could rape and kill children live on tv and the MAGA cult would cheer and offer up their own kids.

It's not just the MAGA cult. The entire electorate chose him over Democrats this time. Where did we go wrong that so many Independents and Swing Voters and Soccer Moms voted for Trumpism over Democrats? Which of our policies and accomplishments were the biggest turnoffs for voters?

If you knew the answer to this question, would Democrats abandon those policies? No. This election was about a race war, a class war, and a war on societal norms for a diverse country. Dems are too smart for their own good. They fight fair and get mad when Rs dont.

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Anonymous wrote:Victorious and ascendant political parties don't tend to abandon themselves one month in.

Of course Republicans don't regret their vote. Of course they aren't yearning for Kamala's leadership. Of course they won't "admit they were wrong" to back a winning candidate and popular policies.

If the losing party, the Democrats, can't admit they were wrong to run on unpopular policies, then the winning party is even less likely to admit being wrong.

It is going to take months, maybe years everyone. They don’t regret it because the day to day impacts haven’t been felt.

This isn't how things work. Look at us Dems. We closed the schools and force-masked the kids, and now the kids have speech impediments and emotional problems. We propped up a senile guy and nominated someone who couldn't win a primary, and now no-one believes that we're "defenders of Democracy." We spent $200 billion on Zelensky, and he says half the money disappeared. Do we regret anything? Have we announced ANY changes to our unpopular policy platform? No.

We are so reluctant to change that our new political strategy is hoping that the victorious Republicans don't like victory. How's that working out for us? We're sitting around INSISTING that Trump is losing ground, meanwhile his approval rate is getting BETTER compared to ours (technically because ours is falling faster than his, lol).

Nothing we do is working. And it's all because we refuse to change. We believe ourselves to be holy. And holy people don't back down on trans folks or wars in Ukraine or Bidenomics. We will not change! The voters will! They will someday come to hate Trump like we do! It didn't happen by year 10 of the Trump era, but it might happen in time for his retirement in 2029!

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Anonymous wrote:Never.

These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.

Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.

We weren't wrong. The bought and paid for algorithms, bite-sized savory propaganda, and election tampering got us here.

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Anonymous wrote:Victorious and ascendant political parties don't tend to abandon themselves one month in.

Of course Republicans don't regret their vote. Of course they aren't yearning for Kamala's leadership. Of course they won't "admit they were wrong" to back a winning candidate and popular policies.

If the losing party, the Democrats, can't admit they were wrong to run on unpopular policies, then the winning party is even less likely to admit being wrong.

It is going to take months, maybe years everyone. They don’t regret it because the day to day impacts haven’t been felt.

This isn't how things work. Look at us Dems. We closed the schools and force-masked the kids, and now the kids have speech impediments and emotional problems. We propped up a senile guy and nominated someone who couldn't win a primary, and now no-one believes that we're "defenders of Democracy." We spent $200 billion on Zelensky, and he says half the money disappeared. Do we regret anything? Have we announced ANY changes to our unpopular policy platform? No.

We are so reluctant to change that our new political strategy is hoping that the victorious Republicans don't like victory. How's that working out for us? We're sitting around INSISTING that Trump is losing ground, meanwhile his approval rate is getting BETTER compared to ours (technically because ours is falling faster than his, lol).

Nothing we do is working. And it's all because we refuse to change. We believe ourselves to be holy. And holy people don't back down on trans folks or wars in Ukraine or Bidenomics. We will not change! The voters will! They will someday come to hate Trump like we do! It didn't happen by year 10 of the Trump era, but it might happen in time for his retirement in 2029!

Ignore the fake Dem trolls, folks! Nothing to see here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind this is a forum where people are in denial that DC has any problems, including crime, and would never vote for anyone that might actually fix those problems. They would rather get carjacked by a 12 year old than admit voting "wrong."

So don't be surprised if others are equally stubborn and short sighted.

Simply not true. Every liberal DC resident I know wants MORE done to stop crime, specifically, those arrested to be prosecuted instead of no papered.

The arrest vs. prosecution numbers for DC are terrible. Why? Because so many who are apprehended are no-papered by prosecutors and released.

Good friends were carjacked. They provided excellent descriptions of the suspects. Their car was found hours later, and the suspects were still in it. The suspects arrested were 14, 16, 17, and either 18 or 19 and all matched the descriptions exactly. When I gave my friends a ride to pick up their recovered car, they found out that the teens had all been released no-paper because the OAG decided not to file formal charges. How the BLEEP can a competent prosecutor decide not to file charges on teens who matched the descriptions given and were arrested in the stolen car? That's a slam dunk case.

Their story isn't unique, either. The DC and NOVA subreddits are full of similar stories. DC residents are beyond frustrated with crime. I now have more friends outside of DC (Arlington, Alexandria, Tyson's) than in DC. These moves were not to plant suburban roots to grow their families, but as the result of them being sick of being the victims of crime where the perpetrators were caught but never prosecuted.

Just because I'm a liberal who believes in basic human rights, it doesn't mean I want no police or to have a lawless society. Oh, and, guns? Love 'em. All for the responsible gun ownership. I just don't think citizens need access to high-powered weapons like AR-15s. I've shot one of those a handful of times and they are not for hunting. Those are strictly for killing - total evisceration of the flesh. Maybe if the animal you're hunting is an elephant or rhino, but I think even an AR-15 vs black bear or grizzly would be a total meat-shredder event.

You understand it is the FEDERAL prosecutors who are not prosecuting these crimes, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here ‘s what I can’t understand:

Don’t MAGA voters love national parks too?
Don’t they want there to be someone looking for a cancer cure?
Don’t they prefer the great USA over Russia?
Don’t they like and use social security?
In years past wouldn’t they to think the idea of invading Canada is incomprehensible?

I am actually dumbfounded that they don’t want any of this .

It's a cult. There is no reasoning with this.

+1 Imagine Senator Thune's grandchildren reading that their grandpa willfully ruined their livelihood. Same for all the other weaklings. Ready to throw their families to the wolves because Dementia Don might say bad things about him.

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Anonymous wrote:Wanted this and expected this. Why should we admit we were wrong? Your line of thinking is very puzzling for a Trump voter.

So you wanted hundreds of thousands of unemployed people, a stock market correction and trade wars with our closest allies?

Yes. This shouldn't be hard to understand. Yes OF COURSE we wanted hundreds of thousands of cushy federal government jobs eliminated. These people have been working from home FOR FIVE YEARS. Yes of course we wanted a correction. We are the party of the middle class. We need cheap houses and cheap stocks to buy. We're not fatcat DC lobbyists trying to preserve high stock prices so we can sell and live off the proceeds now that the Dems are out of power. And yes of course we want trade wars. The U.S. is poised to win them. U.S. labor benefits from trade barriers more than from free trade and open borders.

Republicans are happy, not sad. Democrats, now out of power AND losing political activism funding they used to pilfer from the taxpayers, are obviously not happy. Nor should they be. They will be out of power for at least the next 12 years.

Reads as pure cope. And you're not getting another 12 years off of the coming economic performance. Tick tock, it's coming to an end day by day.

It's not cope it's just observation. Republicans don't tend to become Democrats any more than Democrats become Republicans. I understand that dcurbanmoms are upset about government layoffs, but most taxpayers aren't upset. Democrats refuse to run on popular policies, and that hurts them. Now the plan seems to be just to hope that Republicans disappoint themselves while in power? Or to hope that a recession will make people yearn for Democratic leadership even though the electorate trusts Republicans more on the economy?

As Dems, we seem to be saying, "OMG! We're losing jobs! Everything is falling apart! Trump is coming after us in ways we never expected! Republicans must hate this too, right? Right? Republicans want us back in power now, right? Right?" This doesn't seem to be a winning formula.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here ‘s what I can’t understand:

Don’t MAGA voters love national parks too?
Don’t they want there to be someone looking for a cancer cure?
Don’t they prefer the great USA over Russia?
Don’t they like and use social security?
In years past wouldn’t they to think the idea of invading Canada is incomprehensible?

I am actually dumbfounded that they don’t want any of this .

It's a cult. There is no reasoning with this.

+1 Imagine Senator Thune's grandchildren reading that their grandpa willfully ruined their livelihood. Same for all the other weaklings. Ready to throw their families to the wolves because Dementia Don might say bad things about him.

Is this your sincere belief? That Trump is ruining the livelihoods of the Grandchildren of current Senators?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wanted this and expected this. Why should we admit we were wrong? Your line of thinking is very puzzling for a Trump voter.

So you wanted hundreds of thousands of unemployed people, a stock market correction and trade wars with our closest allies?

Yes. This shouldn't be hard to understand. Yes OF COURSE we wanted hundreds of thousands of cushy federal government jobs eliminated. These people have been working from home FOR FIVE YEARS. Yes of course we wanted a correction. We are the party of the middle class. We need cheap houses and cheap stocks to buy. We're not fatcat DC lobbyists trying to preserve high stock prices so we can sell and live off the proceeds now that the Dems are out of power. And yes of course we want trade wars. The U.S. is poised to win them. U.S. labor benefits from trade barriers more than from free trade and open borders.

Republicans are happy, not sad. Democrats, now out of power AND losing political activism funding they used to pilfer from the taxpayers, are obviously not happy. Nor should they be. They will be out of power for at least the next 12 years.

And MAGA CHUDs wonder why we call them idiots when they loudly and proudly write stuff like this that makes it absolutely clear they have no idea what they're talking about and blindly bite at whatever shiny object Trump and his ilk dangle in front of them.

They don't understand "working from home" is WORK. They don't understand that even if housing prices crashed by 30% they STILL couldn't afford to buy them (they were 30% cheaper only a few years ago, why didn't you buy then?!) and the ripple effects would be catastrophic. They DEFINITELY don't understand the first thing about trade wars as evidenced by the fact they think a drooling idiot President who doesn't even understand how tariffs work could win one. And the icing on the cake is accusing Democrats of "pilfering from the taxpayers" when they're literally watching the Republicans in power looting the country right in front of their faces while they're cheering it on.

GOP voters are truly the dumbest people in the country. Even people who choose not to vote at least have the excuse of ignorance or apathy. Republican voters looked at the stupidest, most selfish, most malicious man in the country with DECADES worth of examples of his complete idiocy and decided that was their guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Victorious and ascendant political parties don't tend to abandon themselves one month in.

Of course Republicans don't regret their vote. Of course they aren't yearning for Kamala's leadership. Of course they won't "admit they were wrong" to back a winning candidate and popular policies.

If the losing party, the Democrats, can't admit they were wrong to run on unpopular policies, then the winning party is even less likely to admit being wrong.

It is going to take months, maybe years everyone. They don’t regret it because the day to day impacts haven’t been felt.

This isn't how things work. Look at us Dems. We closed the schools and force-masked the kids, and now the kids have speech impediments and emotional problems. We propped up a senile guy and nominated someone who couldn't win a primary, and now no-one believes that we're "defenders of Democracy." We spent $200 billion on Zelensky, and he says half the money disappeared. Do we regret anything? Have we announced ANY changes to our unpopular policy platform? No.

We are so reluctant to change that our new political strategy is hoping that the victorious Republicans don't like victory. How's that working out for us? We're sitting around INSISTING that Trump is losing ground, meanwhile his approval rate is getting BETTER compared to ours (technically because ours is falling faster than his, lol).

Nothing we do is working. And it's all because we refuse to change. We believe ourselves to be holy. And holy people don't back down on trans folks or wars in Ukraine or Bidenomics. We will not change! The voters will! They will someday come to hate Trump like we do! It didn't happen by year 10 of the Trump era, but it might happen in time for his retirement in 2029!

Ignore the fake Dem trolls, folks! Nothing to see here.

Seriously. MAGA trolls want us to agree with their leader on trans and Zelensky and stupid tarriffs. They want us to "tack to the right" where we'll agree with them more. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

The parable of the drowning man is applicable here. A man stranded a sea doesn't take the help that comes along, insisting that "God will save me!". When he drowns, he asks God why he didn't save him. "I sent you two boats and helicopter, what more do you need?"

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Anonymous wrote:The pandemic proved a worthy opponent for Trump because it was unaffected by his insults. Perhaps the same is true of the economy?

Yes. It’s called the “invisible hand” of the market for a reason. And the invisible hand is slapping Trump bigly.

All because he couldn’t handle not being reelected in 2020.

+1 I stated repeatedly, this was going to be a big FU presidency. He doesn't actually care about the average Joe (pardon the pun).

No, actually, you elitist democrats don't care about the average Joe. As long as money pours into DC and you get your check, you couldn't care less.

Do you truly not see how exactly backward you have that?