Librarian with provocative t-shirt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids' public schools have a dress code that includes no provocative slogans on T-shirts. Of course, they don't always enforce the dress code...

I don't think this is appropriate, particularly in elementary school.

The dress code language is problematic.
What’s “provocative” and who defines that?
Easy for someone to shrug and say “what’s wrong with expressing love?”
The same person could look at a MAGA shirt and say “that makes me feel
unsafe” and would argue that the slogan Make America Great Again is triggering.

So the whole idea of a certain TYPE of slogan as being disallowed is just ridiculous if it isn’t defined.

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Anonymous wrote:It''s wild that you think loving a certain person is bad.

Is it okay to love men, women, football players, dogs, pirates, dancers, softball players?

What specifically bothers you?

Never said that. My main question is about the dress code. I can imagine several t-shirts used by conservative Christians that would be offensive to the LGBTQ community. My point is whether it’s ok to bring the culture wars to school.

You mean, would it be OK to wear a Nazi shirt? And you’re comparing that too I love lesbians?

Very balanced comment: conservative Christians = Nazis.

Some conservatives Xtians = white supremacist.

What exactly do you think people would object to that a conservative Christian would wear? I love Jesus. I love Mary. I love Joseph.

I love pedophiles?

See the problem is when you read I love lesbians it’s the same to you as I love pedophiles

When I read, I love Mary. I think it’s the same thing as I love lesbians.

The dress code in my job limits my freedom of speech. I am glad that in your job you can wear anything you want even if it upsets the clients. Lucky you!

The point, OP, is that there is no need for the school to police this. Every workplace has a dress code (and so does every public place -- can't walk around naked in public even thought that might help you to figure out the root of your fixation with lesbians). Yes there is a dress code at this and every other school (and every other place outside one's own home). But the question is what does the dress code require? If the dress code allows their faculty and staff to wear t-shirts, then literally no one but you on this thread sees a problem with the librarian's t-shirt. On the other hand, if the dress code does not allow t-shirts, then you can be the parent to who brings this grievous violation to the attention of the head of school, where it will no doubt be received very much the way that it has been on DCUM. Go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son in 4th grade told me that the librarian was wearing the t-shirt with the message “Everybody knows I love lesbians”. What do you think about the dress code in elementary schools? Is that ok ?

Your kid is 10 years old. He knows what a lesbian is.

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What exactly is bad about the t shirt?

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Anonymous wrote:It''s wild that you think loving a certain person is bad.

Is it okay to love men, women, football players, dogs, pirates, dancers, softball players?

What specifically bothers you?

Never said that. My main question is about the dress code. I can imagine several t-shirts used by conservative Christians that would be offensive to the LGBTQ community. My point is whether it’s ok to bring the culture wars to school.

You mean, would it be OK to wear a Nazi shirt? And you’re comparing that too I love lesbians?

Very balanced comment: conservative Christians = Nazis.

Truth hurts?

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Is there any possibility he misread and it was a different word meant to be a play on words?

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All schools I’ve worked at have had “no slogans/messages” on t-shirts. In fact I think at most the only dress-down t-shirt was the school shirt.
I do love lesbians but working at a school calls for menswear button downs 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son in 4th grade told me that the librarian was wearing the t-shirt with the message “Everybody knows I love lesbians”. What do you think about the dress code in elementary schools? Is that ok ?

I work at an area independent school and I cannot imagine a school librarian wearing this shirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids' public schools have a dress code that includes no provocative slogans on T-shirts. Of course, they don't always enforce the dress code...

I don't think this is appropriate, particularly in elementary school.

100%
Maybe this shirt is protected as LGBT pride speech?

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Not ok in fact its pretty messed up.

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Former teacher at a liberal private school in dc. Funny shirt, wrong environment.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

So you think your child can understand the concept of two moms but not that they are called lesbians? Or is it that you think lesbian is a bad word?

It’s a sexually-charged word, identifier, what have you. I also wouldn’t call other couples heterosexual and then explain what that means. To me, it’s unnecessary and a sexual preference conversation isn’t age appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Former teacher at a liberal private school in dc. Funny shirt, wrong environment.

Agreed. Farmer’s market on the weekend? Totally fine. At your job in an elementary school? Not okay.

It wouldn’t be acceptable in my office, I don’t know why people think it’s okay in a school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

So you think your child can understand the concept of two moms but not that they are called lesbians? Or is it that you think lesbian is a bad word?

It’s a sexually-charged word, identifier, what have you. I also wouldn’t call other couples heterosexual and then explain what that means. To me, it’s unnecessary and a sexual preference conversation isn’t age appropriate.

It's not a sexually-charged word unless you, personally, finding tantilizing. Most people don't. If you do, that's cool, but don't project that onto your child.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

So you think your child can understand the concept of two moms but not that they are called lesbians? Or is it that you think lesbian is a bad word?

It’s a sexually-charged word, identifier, what have you. I also wouldn’t call other couples heterosexual and then explain what that means. To me, it’s unnecessary and a sexual preference conversation isn’t age appropriate.

It's not a sexually-charged word unless you, personally, finding tantilizing. Most people don't. If you do, that's cool, but don't project that onto your child.

C’mon. You’d be okay if a math teacher wore an “I’m Super Straight” t-shirt to school? Really?