Librarian with provocative t-shirt

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

Typical defensive, ad hominem response from someone who doesn’t have a logical response.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to imagine the reaction if a male gym teacher at an elementary school wore an “Everybody knows I love straight women” shirt. Would we really be okay with that?

Nobody agrees with you. Let it go. You seem obsessed.

This is my second post on the thread. Not obsessed, just in wonderment that people are defending this.

No, you are the OP. You aren't fooling anyone.

Lol! I’m sorry you don’t know how DCUM works. Feel free to confirm with Jeff that I’m not the OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a gay woman with a child and I think it’s inappropriate. Did he definitely read it correctly? I’m wondering if it was a play on words?
I’d fact check the info.

Why wear anything with writing at all?

[Anonymous]

I agree school librarians can get away with more than an office worker. If her shirt said everyone knows I love my Shih tzu ,,,,would anyone care? Or if it has Care Bears on it?

I wouldn’t be bothered by this but I also get the other perspective. If a straight guy teacher showed up with a shirt that says I love women! Or a straight female teacher showed up with a shirt that said I love men! I agree it would be weird. This is how I would explain it if to the employer if I had to tell her to put in a hoodie and not wear it again. It can be a rainbow hoodie.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

Are there no boundaries or expectations of professionalism in schools? Should a fourth grade teacher wear a “Masterbation is awesome!” shirt because a lot of the kids know about it?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

When I was in 4th grade I saw a movie with my parents in which the word lesbian was used. I asked my mom what it means and she botched the answer so badly that I left the conversation with a definite impression that a lesbian was a bear. This was the 1980s. Luckily I I did not go around using the term too often (you can imagine….”what an adorable teddy lesbian!” “Is it true that lesbians love honey?” “Our neighbor had a lesbian in their backyard last night.”). Let’s all try to do better than my 1980s mom! (I wil have to tell my lesbian daughter and niece this story…).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

Are there no boundaries or expectations of professionalism in schools? Should a fourth grade teacher wear a “Masterbation is awesome!” shirt because a lot of the kids know about it?

That would be a cool shirt. Not for school, but for life. Also, interesting that you think that the word "lesbian" falls into the same category as the word "masterbation." How closely connected are those two ideas for you, personally speaking? I don't think most people think about masterbation when they think of the word lesbian.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

Are there no boundaries or expectations of professionalism in schools? Should a fourth grade teacher wear a “Masterbation is awesome!” shirt because a lot of the kids know about it?

Holy cow. Not "a lot of the kids" in fourth grade know what a lesbian is. ALL OF THE KIDS IN FOURTH GRADE KNOW WHAT A LESBIAN IS. Including yours. Grow up. It's 2025.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to imagine the reaction if a male gym teacher at an elementary school wore an “Everybody knows I love straight women” shirt. Would we really be okay with that?

Nobody agrees with you. Let it go. You seem obsessed.

This is my second post on the thread. Not obsessed, just in wonderment that people are defending this.

No, you are the OP. You aren't fooling anyone.

Lol! I’m sorry you don’t know how DCUM works. Feel free to confirm with Jeff that I’m not the OP.

I’m sorry, OP, I did tell them it wasn’t you

[Anonymous]

Are you sure it wasn't thesbians?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you sure it wasn't thesbians?

I love this. I would wear that shirt.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you sure it wasn't thesbians?

I love this. I would wear that shirt.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

Are there no boundaries or expectations of professionalism in schools? Should a fourth grade teacher wear a “Masterbation is awesome!” shirt because a lot of the kids know about it?

That would be a cool shirt. Not for school, but for life. Also, interesting that you think that the word "lesbian" falls into the same category as the word "masterbation." How closely connected are those two ideas for you, personally speaking? I don't think most people think about masterbation when they think of the word lesbian.

Hit the “Click to show earlier quotes” and you’ll see I was directly responding to what the pp wrote. I’m not the one linking the two ideas, pp was.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?

No, I’m a new poster who finds this conversation interesting and it is making me think through how I would react in this scenario.

For me, there is a difference between “Larlo has two moms” and “Larlo’s mom is a lesbian” to which my kid would immediately follow with “What is that?” and I wouldn’t want to go into the actual answer “it’s someone who prefers marry women instead of men” (“Marry” just for the kid convo).

To echo my response above, I also wouldn’t describe couples as heterosexual or straight. It seems like an unnecessary qualifier that would lead to conversations we’re not wanting to have right now with a young elementary student.

But your kid would not assume any sexual connotation out of either of those explanations. You’re doing that. May I offer “lesbians are women who merry other women.” Very likely the kid goes “ok” and moves on. They’re not overthinking it or sexualizing it like you are.

It seems like you are offended but unfortunately you don’t decide how people raise their children or how topics are introduced to them

By fourth grade, your son has already heard all about sex, masterbation (and maybe even tried it), gay people, trans people, and lesbians. Other kids are talking to your son about this at school, at baseball practice, at playdates, and even at Sunday school. By performing this cliched, pearl-clutching trope of a 1980s era mom who doesn't want her preteen child to know what a lesbian is, you can certainly make your son uncomfortable around you and afraid to have frank and open discussions with you, but you will not succeed in protecting him from learning basical biological and social facts about the world.

When I was in 4th grade I saw a movie with my parents in which the word lesbian was used. I asked my mom what it means and she botched the answer so badly that I left the conversation with a definite impression that a lesbian was a bear. This was the 1980s. Luckily I I did not go around using the term too often (you can imagine….”what an adorable teddy lesbian!” “Is it true that lesbians love honey?” “Our neighbor had a lesbian in their backyard last night.”). Let’s all try to do better than my 1980s mom! (I wil have to tell my lesbian daughter and niece this story…).

Bears are gay men.