Librarian with provocative t-shirt

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we know it's just you responding every time to everyone on this thread trying to explain to you that the problem is you, not the librarian. Maybe take a beat to sit with that possibility?

The librarian is talking

Do you really think an elementary school librarian spends her free time on the DCUM forum reading about your petty biases?

Now her girlfriend.

Awww did your wittle feelings get hurt that we didn’t jump on your lesbian hating train?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, we know it's just you responding every time to everyone on this thread trying to explain to you that the problem is you, not the librarian. Maybe take a beat to sit with that possibility?

The librarian is talking

Do you really think an elementary school librarian spends her free time on the DCUM forum reading about your petty biases?

Now her girlfriend.

If I didn't feel so bad for your kid, OP, I'd say that you should immediately remove your kid and place them in a school like this:

https://www.veritasacademydc.com/mission-and-vision

I know that everyone in your kid's current school community would breathe a collective sigh of relief. But that would just mean your kid would be stuck in a cocoon of crazy at home AND at school, which seems cruel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, we know it's just you responding every time to everyone on this thread trying to explain to you that the problem is you, not the librarian. Maybe take a beat to sit with that possibility?

The librarian is talking

Do you really think an elementary school librarian spends her free time on the DCUM forum reading about your petty biases?

Now her girlfriend.

Awww did your wittle feelings get hurt that we didn’t jump on your lesbian hating train?

The lesbian likes to be trolled 🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, we know it's just you responding every time to everyone on this thread trying to explain to you that the problem is you, not the librarian. Maybe take a beat to sit with that possibility?

The librarian is talking

Do you really think an elementary school librarian spends her free time on the DCUM forum reading about your petty biases?

Now her girlfriend.

If I didn't feel so bad for your kid, OP, I'd say that you should immediately remove your kid and place them in a school like this:

https://www.veritasacademydc.com/mission-and-vision

I know that everyone in your kid's current school community would breathe a collective sigh of relief. But that would just mean your kid would be stuck in a cocoon of crazy at home AND at school, which seems cruel.

I want your job where there is no dress code. So crazy that my current job has a dress code that limits my freedom of speech.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son in 4th grade told me that the librarian was wearing the t-shirt with the message “Everybody knows I love lesbians”. What do you think about the dress code in elementary schools? Is that ok ?

I am a religious conservative. I think marriage should only be between a man and a woman and that homosexuality in a sin. But I also believe in freedom of assembly and we are not the taliban beating people into submission on the streets. My coworkers, customers (if I had a business), employees of places I do business with, teachers, students, etc, their sexuality is not my business day to day. One, people who call themselves "lesbians" exist. That librarian "loves" them. I guess that is a fact in his or her life, that us between him or her and God. Two, the "word" lesbian isn't a vulgarity in the English language so kids seeing it is not a problem. If they have a question about a word they can ask someone about it. Their parents can tell their kids to run unfamiliar words by them only, but that is up to them.

I commend you for your open mind, but I still don't think sexual-adjacent terms should be bandied about in primary school. And lesbian is such a term. I'd feel differently if this was secondary school.

The word "lesbian" isn't sex adjacent! Honestly, how regressive can you be? I feel like I am reading a message board from the 1950s. Reducing the identity of "lesbian" to a sexual attraction or sexual behavior is ignorant and offensive. If you are a straight women, does that mean that your defining quality is that you like to sleep with men? Is that what makes you who you are? A lesbian is a woman who loves (*LOVES* not f---s) women. It's not a bad word or a dirty word. It is an identity and as PP said: lesbians exist. If you are hoping to keep your elementary aged kid from finding out that lesbians exists, I feel so sorry for your kid. Don't let your own obsessions, anxieties, and hang ups burden your kid. Let them try to grow into a normal, well-adjusted adult person who doesn't over-sexualize elementary school librarians and isn't weirded out by the fact that people different them exist in the world.

Holy sh!t what did I just read??


The term lesbian is 100% a sexual orientation.

Honey, seriously? I feel sad for you. The word lesbian can be used as a noun or an adjective, and it refers to women who have physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to other women. A lesbians is a person who falls in love and wants to build a meaningful life with another adult woman. I am sorry that your education has failed you so badly, but please, read a book about the oversexualization of gay and lesbian people but folks like yourself. If a book feels like too much, start with this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-problem-with-the-sexualization-of-lesbians_b_3368769

Please don't "honey" me when you whip out fringe definitions of the word lesbian and act all appalled that I am not ascribing to them.

There are plenty of things to be sad about in this world. Me not agreeing with your minority definition is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, we know it's just you responding every time to everyone on this thread trying to explain to you that the problem is you, not the librarian. Maybe take a beat to sit with that possibility?

The librarian is talking

Do you really think an elementary school librarian spends her free time on the DCUM forum reading about your petty biases?

Now her girlfriend.

Awww did your wittle feelings get hurt that we didn’t jump on your lesbian hating train?

The lesbian likes to be trolled 🤣

I’m not a lesbian but everyone does know I love them. 😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son in 4th grade told me that the librarian was wearing the t-shirt with the message “Everybody knows I love lesbians”. What do you think about the dress code in elementary schools? Is that ok ?

I am a religious conservative. I think marriage should only be between a man and a woman and that homosexuality in a sin. But I also believe in freedom of assembly and we are not the taliban beating people into submission on the streets. My coworkers, customers (if I had a business), employees of places I do business with, teachers, students, etc, their sexuality is not my business day to day. One, people who call themselves "lesbians" exist. That librarian "loves" them. I guess that is a fact in his or her life, that us between him or her and God. Two, the "word" lesbian isn't a vulgarity in the English language so kids seeing it is not a problem. If they have a question about a word they can ask someone about it. Their parents can tell their kids to run unfamiliar words by them only, but that is up to them.

I commend you for your open mind, but I still don't think sexual-adjacent terms should be bandied about in primary school. And lesbian is such a term. I'd feel differently if this was secondary school.

The word "lesbian" isn't sex adjacent! Honestly, how regressive can you be? I feel like I am reading a message board from the 1950s. Reducing the identity of "lesbian" to a sexual attraction or sexual behavior is ignorant and offensive. If you are a straight women, does that mean that your defining quality is that you like to sleep with men? Is that what makes you who you are? A lesbian is a woman who loves (*LOVES* not f---s) women. It's not a bad word or a dirty word. It is an identity and as PP said: lesbians exist. If you are hoping to keep your elementary aged kid from finding out that lesbians exists, I feel so sorry for your kid. Don't let your own obsessions, anxieties, and hang ups burden your kid. Let them try to grow into a normal, well-adjusted adult person who doesn't over-sexualize elementary school librarians and isn't weirded out by the fact that people different them exist in the world.

Holy sh!t what did I just read??


The term lesbian is 100% a sexual orientation.

Honey, seriously? I feel sad for you. The word lesbian can be used as a noun or an adjective, and it refers to women who have physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to other women. A lesbians is a person who falls in love and wants to build a meaningful life with another adult woman. I am sorry that your education has failed you so badly, but please, read a book about the oversexualization of gay and lesbian people but folks like yourself. If a book feels like too much, start with this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-problem-with-the-sexualization-of-lesbians_b_3368769

Please don't "honey" me when you whip out fringe definitions of the word lesbian and act all appalled that I am not ascribing to them.

There are plenty of things to be sad about in this world. Me not agreeing with your minority definition is not one of them.

Lesbian cat fight

[Anonymous]

Yawn.

You need real things to worry about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son in 4th grade told me that the librarian was wearing the t-shirt with the message “Everybody knows I love lesbians”. What do you think about the dress code in elementary schools? Is that ok ?

I am a religious conservative. I think marriage should only be between a man and a woman and that homosexuality in a sin. But I also believe in freedom of assembly and we are not the taliban beating people into submission on the streets. My coworkers, customers (if I had a business), employees of places I do business with, teachers, students, etc, their sexuality is not my business day to day. One, people who call themselves "lesbians" exist. That librarian "loves" them. I guess that is a fact in his or her life, that us between him or her and God. Two, the "word" lesbian isn't a vulgarity in the English language so kids seeing it is not a problem. If they have a question about a word they can ask someone about it. Their parents can tell their kids to run unfamiliar words by them only, but that is up to them.

I commend you for your open mind, but I still don't think sexual-adjacent terms should be bandied about in primary school. And lesbian is such a term. I'd feel differently if this was secondary school.

The word "lesbian" isn't sex adjacent! Honestly, how regressive can you be? I feel like I am reading a message board from the 1950s. Reducing the identity of "lesbian" to a sexual attraction or sexual behavior is ignorant and offensive. If you are a straight women, does that mean that your defining quality is that you like to sleep with men? Is that what makes you who you are? A lesbian is a woman who loves (*LOVES* not f---s) women. It's not a bad word or a dirty word. It is an identity and as PP said: lesbians exist. If you are hoping to keep your elementary aged kid from finding out that lesbians exists, I feel so sorry for your kid. Don't let your own obsessions, anxieties, and hang ups burden your kid. Let them try to grow into a normal, well-adjusted adult person who doesn't over-sexualize elementary school librarians and isn't weirded out by the fact that people different them exist in the world.

Holy sh!t what did I just read??


The term lesbian is 100% a sexual orientation.

Honey, seriously? I feel sad for you. The word lesbian can be used as a noun or an adjective, and it refers to women who have physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to other women. A lesbians is a person who falls in love and wants to build a meaningful life with another adult woman. I am sorry that your education has failed you so badly, but please, read a book about the oversexualization of gay and lesbian people but folks like yourself. If a book feels like too much, start with this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-problem-with-the-sexualization-of-lesbians_b_3368769

Please don't "honey" me when you whip out fringe definitions of the word lesbian and act all appalled that I am not ascribing to them.

There are plenty of things to be sad about in this world. Me not agreeing with your minority definition is not one of them.

You really think that defining "lesbian" as a person who is physically, romantically, or emotionally attracked to other women is a minority definition? What is your "majority" definition, a woman who has sex with other women? You really believe that's the mainstream view? Do you actually know any gay people at all in real life (watching Will & Grace in the '90s doesn't count, although even that would have left you better prepared to understand gay people than you appear to be).

I know you told me not to be sad, but how can I not be sad that you have such a backward, ignornant and parochial world view? I take it you did not grow up in the DMV? Are you new to the area? I am so happy your child will have a chance at a better, richer, more inclusive world view, if for no other reason than the influence of teachers and peers at their (evidently not entirely facist) school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It''s wild that you think loving a certain person is bad.

Is it okay to love men, women, football players, dogs, pirates, dancers, softball players?

What specifically bothers you?

Never said that. My main question is about the dress code. I can imagine several t-shirts used by conservative Christians that would be offensive to the LGBTQ community. My point is whether it’s ok to bring the culture wars to school.

You mean, would it be OK to wear a Nazi shirt? And you’re comparing that too I love lesbians?

Very balanced comment: conservative Christians = Nazis.

Some conservatives Xtians = white supremacist.

What exactly do you think people would object to that a conservative Christian would wear? I love Jesus. I love Mary. I love Joseph.

I love pedophiles?

See the problem is when you read I love lesbians it’s the same to you as I love pedophiles

When I read, I love Mary. I think it’s the same thing as I love lesbians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son in 4th grade told me that the librarian was wearing the t-shirt with the message “Everybody knows I love lesbians”. What do you think about the dress code in elementary schools? Is that ok ?

I am a religious conservative. I think marriage should only be between a man and a woman and that homosexuality in a sin. But I also believe in freedom of assembly and we are not the taliban beating people into submission on the streets. My coworkers, customers (if I had a business), employees of places I do business with, teachers, students, etc, their sexuality is not my business day to day. One, people who call themselves "lesbians" exist. That librarian "loves" them. I guess that is a fact in his or her life, that us between him or her and God. Two, the "word" lesbian isn't a vulgarity in the English language so kids seeing it is not a problem. If they have a question about a word they can ask someone about it. Their parents can tell their kids to run unfamiliar words by them only, but that is up to them.

I commend you for your open mind, but I still don't think sexual-adjacent terms should be bandied about in primary school. And lesbian is such a term. I'd feel differently if this was secondary school.

The word "lesbian" isn't sex adjacent! Honestly, how regressive can you be? I feel like I am reading a message board from the 1950s. Reducing the identity of "lesbian" to a sexual attraction or sexual behavior is ignorant and offensive. If you are a straight women, does that mean that your defining quality is that you like to sleep with men? Is that what makes you who you are? A lesbian is a woman who loves (*LOVES* not f---s) women. It's not a bad word or a dirty word. It is an identity and as PP said: lesbians exist. If you are hoping to keep your elementary aged kid from finding out that lesbians exists, I feel so sorry for your kid. Don't let your own obsessions, anxieties, and hang ups burden your kid. Let them try to grow into a normal, well-adjusted adult person who doesn't over-sexualize elementary school librarians and isn't weirded out by the fact that people different them exist in the world.

Holy sh!t what did I just read??


The term lesbian is 100% a sexual orientation.

Honey, seriously? I feel sad for you. The word lesbian can be used as a noun or an adjective, and it refers to women who have physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to other women. A lesbians is a person who falls in love and wants to build a meaningful life with another adult woman. I am sorry that your education has failed you so badly, but please, read a book about the oversexualization of gay and lesbian people but folks like yourself. If a book feels like too much, start with this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-problem-with-the-sexualization-of-lesbians_b_3368769

Please don't "honey" me when you whip out fringe definitions of the word lesbian and act all appalled that I am not ascribing to them.

There are plenty of things to be sad about in this world. Me not agreeing with your minority definition is not one of them.

The reality is when I say the word “bride” which literally means they’re having sex that night you don’t think about sex you think about love.

But when you hear the word “lesbian” all you think about is sex, what is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It''s wild that you think loving a certain person is bad.

Is it okay to love men, women, football players, dogs, pirates, dancers, softball players?

What specifically bothers you?

Never said that. My main question is about the dress code. I can imagine several t-shirts used by conservative Christians that would be offensive to the LGBTQ community. My point is whether it’s ok to bring the culture wars to school.

You mean, would it be OK to wear a Nazi shirt? And you’re comparing that too I love lesbians?

Very balanced comment: conservative Christians = Nazis.

Some conservatives Xtians = white supremacist.

What exactly do you think people would object to that a conservative Christian would wear? I love Jesus. I love Mary. I love Joseph.

I love pedophiles?

See the problem is when you read I love lesbians it’s the same to you as I love pedophiles

When I read, I love Mary. I think it’s the same thing as I love lesbians.

The dress code in my job limits my freedom of speech. I am glad that in your job you can wear anything you want even if it upsets the clients. Lucky you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

So you think your child can understand the concept of two moms but not that they are called lesbians? Or is it that you think lesbian is a bad word?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty much as progressive as they come and I'm shocked anyone thinks this would be appropriate to wear in any workplace, especially a public/customer facing job.

Same. But now I’m rethinking how progressive I am bc I would not want to have to explain this shirt to my elementary school student.

We have had two-mom families in our classes, but I did not and would not have explained them as lesbians. We explained as “Larlo has two moms and there’s many types of families and that’s okay.” DC said “oh” and moved on

So yea I think the shirt shouldn’t be worn at school

Why are you afraid to "explain" lesbians to your kid? What is there to explain? These are people married to one another the same way you are married to your husband. When you encounter heterosexual parents, do you feel the need to "explain" to your kid what they do in the privacy of their bedroom?

OP, is this you adopting a less insane persona to see if we'll get on board your crazy train?