Neighbors who don’t bother to clear their sidewalks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The folks who own the richest house on our block haven’t shoveled at all. I’ve brought the issue to the attention - in clear English - and they still DGAF. Their car has also never been registered in DC during the three or so years since they bought the house.

I know eggs are pricey...but it's worth spending $5 to have some teens launch a dozen at their house.

[Anonymous]

How about MoCo? Who do you report it to? I saw a man slip on the ice while approaching an icy sidewalk that is next to a bus stop. The house to which the sidewalk belongs is a group home with lots of young people--I assume the landlord just doesn't want to bother them with these requirements while he collects the rent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of the homes by Deal where kids get off the bus shoveled their snow not one time for the two snow days. It’s now ice; ridiculous.

How come the city didn’t clear the sidewalks it owns next to Fort Reno Park, where Deal students have to walk? You’re calling out homeowners for not shoveling 50 feet of sidewalk but not criticizing the city for not shoveling 1,000 feet of sidewalk.

Why?

How does the city's failure to clear ice make it OK for the homeowners also to fail to clear ice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

[Anonymous]

This is like a Karen convention. Do you guys also get pissed off when kids run through your yard? How about when a neighbor forgets to mow their lawn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

Apparently. And yet it snows maybe twice a year? Seems like a bigger problem is people leaving bikes and ebikes and scooters everywhere. Those things are so heavy that they are literally impossible for some people to move out of the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is like a Karen convention. Do you guys also get pissed off when kids run through your yard? How about when a neighbor forgets to mow their lawn?

Are you really that stupid? This is a discussion about people failing to abide by their legal responsibilities and, in the process, endangering everyone who walks down the street. Shouting “Karen!” at everyone who gives a shit about public safety - and calls out those who endanger it - is one of the dumbest fads in recent history and one that is kept alive only by losers and idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

Apparently. And yet it snows maybe twice a year? Seems like a bigger problem is people leaving bikes and ebikes and scooters everywhere. Those things are so heavy that they are literally impossible for some people to move out of the way.

What does this mean? They are on wheels and yes they roll even if you have not paid for them. I rarely see them left perpendicular to the sidewalk, vs. 95% of the time parallel in the curb box, and the other 4.9% parallel near the curb box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

Apparently. And yet it snows maybe twice a year? Seems like a bigger problem is people leaving bikes and ebikes and scooters everywhere. Those things are so heavy that they are literally impossible for some people to move out of the way.

Yes, the people who leave those on sidewalks are a problem. So are the people who don’t shovel. Both can be true. How are you not understanding this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

Apparently. And yet it snows maybe twice a year? Seems like a bigger problem is people leaving bikes and ebikes and scooters everywhere. Those things are so heavy that they are literally impossible for some people to move out of the way.

What does this mean? They are on wheels and yes they roll even if you have not paid for them. I rarely see them left perpendicular to the sidewalk, vs. 95% of the time parallel in the curb box, and the other 4.9% parallel near the curb box.

No, some don’t roll easily. You have to drag them out of the way. Hard for some older people, people with disabilities, etc.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread. It’s stupid to keep arguing that it does - as the PP keeps doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

Apparently. And yet it snows maybe twice a year? Seems like a bigger problem is people leaving bikes and ebikes and scooters everywhere. Those things are so heavy that they are literally impossible for some people to move out of the way.

And there is still compressed ice from weeks ago, because of the lazy crappy neighbors who refused to clear their sidewalks. It's not just 2 days of hardship - it's WEEKS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is like a Karen convention. Do you guys also get pissed off when kids run through your yard? How about when a neighbor forgets to mow their lawn?

So you don’t shovel your sidewalk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of the homes by Deal where kids get off the bus shoveled their snow not one time for the two snow days. It’s now ice; ridiculous.

How come the city didn’t clear the sidewalks it owns next to Fort Reno Park, where Deal students have to walk? You’re calling out homeowners for not shoveling 50 feet of sidewalk but not criticizing the city for not shoveling 1,000 feet of sidewalk.

Why?

Are you sure that’s not federal land? Ft. Reno is federal.

Besides, the city not shoveling is not an excuse for homeowners not shoveling.

Fort Reno is federal. The sidewalk easement in front of it is city property.

If the city can fine homeowners, the city needs to be fined as well, and those fines given back to taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of the homes by Deal where kids get off the bus shoveled their snow not one time for the two snow days. It’s now ice; ridiculous.

How come the city didn’t clear the sidewalks it owns next to Fort Reno Park, where Deal students have to walk? You’re calling out homeowners for not shoveling 50 feet of sidewalk but not criticizing the city for not shoveling 1,000 feet of sidewalk.

Why?

Are you sure that’s not federal land? Ft. Reno is federal.

Besides, the city not shoveling is not an excuse for homeowners not shoveling.

Fort Reno is federal. The sidewalk easement in front of it is city property.

If the city can fine homeowners, the city needs to be fined as well, and those fines given back to taxpayers.

Agree. City and homeowners should shovel. Neither gets off because the other is negligent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can think of lots of legitimate reasons why someone may not have shoveled their sidewalk.

I can't think of a single good reason why someone may leave their bike/e-bike/scooter on the sidewalk.

Save your tsk-tsking for those *ssholes.

The only legit reason is that you are out of town. It's your responsibility and if you can't do it yourself, you must ask someone else to do it.

You gonna sic the city on someone in hospice? You going to demand they ticket a woman with dementia who has no one to help her? You going to complain about someone who works 16 hours a day? There's a million reasons why someone might not shovel as quickly as you'd like them to. Save your outrage for something that isn't completely stupid.

DP. I have neighbors who I know are not in hospice, do not have dementia, and do not work 16 hours a day. I frequently seem them jogging during the workday, in fact, or putting up very elaborate yard displays for Halloween. And yet they couldn't be bothered to shovel their sidewalks in either of the recent snowstorms despite the fact that there are infirm and elderly people on the block, too (most of whom DID manage to get their walks cleared, one way or the other).

If you just don't feel like shoveling or don't think it's important, I think you're a perfectly legitimate target for scorn and outrage.

Apparently. And yet it snows maybe twice a year? Seems like a bigger problem is people leaving bikes and ebikes and scooters everywhere. Those things are so heavy that they are literally impossible for some people to move out of the way.

Yes, I also don't like when people leave those in the middle of the sidewalk. Do I have to pick just one type of obnoxious neighbor to dislike? Can't I find both of them really annoying?

At any rate, in my neighborhood, at least, there are far more houses where the sidewalks are still covered in ice than there are scooters or bikes in the middle of the sidewalk. And at any rate, when it's not snowy, if there's a bike on the sidewalk, I can easily walk around it by stepping on the grass, which isn't covered in snow and ice. I can't easily walk around someone's icy sidewalk by walking on their snowy lawn.