Two dogs killed & two women injured

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/


Was it a rescue?


I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.


Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.


This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.


There are 4.5 million dog bites a year


"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"



Because rescues were abused and attack


Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If some dog owner had a dog so out of control, so malnourished, or both, that it attacked and killed my dog, I would sue and push for criminal charges with every bit of my waking energy and will. I would make that person’s life an utter hell for the rest of his days. Our dog is absolutely like a family member to us and I’m convinced has saved my once-quasi-suicidal son’s life. For a horrific attack like this, the punishment should be so severe and devastating that other dog owners will sit up, take notice, and make sure they act responsibly.

That poor family and that tragic, poor dog who was killed. Nightmarish beyond belief.


This is the correct take. Regardless of breed, the owner responsible for this animal (these animals, if the other dog is found) should have to face severe penalties.

People push for breed bans, which won't solve the problem, instead of tighter legislation for ALL dog owners (which might).
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There wasn’t a 2nd dog
One dog attacked and killed the victims dog.
That dog owner was on scene and also tried to separate them. She was injured too.
It’s horrific.
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Anonymous wrote:There wasn’t a 2nd dog
One dog attacked and killed the victims dog.
That dog owner was on scene and also tried to separate them. She was injured too.
It’s horrific.


Cite your sources. What you're saying doesn't line up with the links already posted to the thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There wasn’t a 2nd dog
One dog attacked and killed the victims dog.
That dog owner was on scene and also tried to separate them. She was injured too.
It’s horrific.


Cite your sources. What you're saying doesn't line up with the links already posted to the thread.


I read the Police report. Doesn’t mention a 2nd dog.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There wasn’t a 2nd dog
One dog attacked and killed the victims dog.
That dog owner was on scene and also tried to separate them. She was injured too.
It’s horrific.


Cite your sources. What you're saying doesn't line up with the links already posted to the thread.


I read the Police report. Doesn’t mention a 2nd dog.


My understanding is that the police arrived after the second dog took off so that is why it’s not in the report.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/


Was it a rescue?


I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.


Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.


This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.


There are 4.5 million dog bites a year


"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"



Because rescues were abused and attack


Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.


I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/


Was it a rescue?


I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.


Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.


This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.


There are 4.5 million dog bites a year


"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"



To the stupid, this will read as "horribly violent dog does unspeakable thing because pit bulls are evil". To the intelligent, and especially those who understand dogs, it's more a clue that the dog was likely badly malnourished, which is a sign of abuse.

There's a clickbait "news" article in the pit hate thread showing some dude's XL bully that turned on him. Dog is emaciated, coat is in terrible condition... Dogs are animals and they need to eat. As unpleasant as it is to read about, there's logic and reason behind it, and the reason isn't "the dog('s whole breed) is clearly evil"

I hope the owner is found and fined.


Oh please. A malnourished lab or Frenchie is not going to start killing and eating another dog. Only a really deranged dog would do that. (Fwiw, I'm not a huge fan of pitties, I've known a lot of them and they are unpredictable, hard to train, prone to biting, and dumb. But speaking from unfortunate experience, they have not chewed on a dead body.)


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0379073897001126

It's like you don't even understand what a dog is, and you're too lazy and stupid to use the internet you're on to learn.


You just posted the first hit that came up? Did you read it?

SMH
Anonymous
While officers were at the scene waiting for animal services, they told the dispatcher that the pitbull was not contained and was eating the other dog in the yard of a residence, according to the transmissions.
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Anonymous wrote:Rescues

You get what you pay for.

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Idiots. Their opinion isn't worth a cent.

You assume so much, probably because your brain is so small.

And how are you going to feel when the attacking dog(s) turn out to be purebred and the victim's dog was a beloved, scrappy shelter mutt?

Just stay quiet and be stupid by yourself, okay? Nobody needs your garbage take.


Yeah I’m totally sure the dead dog is a pitbull …


Why wouldn't they say what type of breed? People are going to make assumptions.


Stupid people make assumptions. Smarter people wait for facts. They're not going to say what breed because the responding officers writing the report probably aren't specifically trained in identifying dog breeds.

Unlike the idiots in the DCUM pets forum, who know everything and all about it, too.


You’re claiming it wasn’t a pit bull??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/


Was it a rescue?


I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.


Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.


This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.


There are 4.5 million dog bites a year


"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"



Because rescues were abused and attack


Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.


I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.


Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/


Was it a rescue?


I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.


Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.


This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.


There are 4.5 million dog bites a year


"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"



Because rescues were abused and attack


Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.


I didn't say all rescues attack I said all attacks are rescues.

Imagine this... not all rescues are as well run as the one in wealthy areas.

How about you volunteer with animal control and open your eyes to reality.
Anonymous
What they didn't say is that the police were just standing there while the attacking dog was eating the dead dog and only shot the attacking dog after it attacked them.

Yet another pit bull owner who thinks they are great dogs and they can control them until oh they can't.
Anonymous
the posters posting the dog bite statistics is misleading - it is true all breeds can bite but they do not all maul or kill other dogs walking around neighborhoods. Dachsunds probably have pretty high bite stats but there is no change the surly hotdog dog down the street is going to kill my standard poodle. Not so sure about the growling pit mixes that we go way out of our way to avoid.
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Anonymous wrote:the posters posting the dog bite statistics is misleading - it is true all breeds can bite but they do not all maul or kill other dogs walking around neighborhoods. Dachsunds probably have pretty high bite stats but there is no change the surly hotdog dog down the street is going to kill my standard poodle. Not so sure about the growling pit mixes that we go way out of our way to avoid.


I was walking my leashed dog along a trail and he was sniffing at a fence that backed to the trail. The owner yelled over to back up becuase his dog (pit) was vicious. Dude, if you are so worried about your dog attacking another dog who is on the other side of a 6 foot fence from him then perhaps this is not the right dog for a residential neighborhood, particularly if your yard backs up to a walking trail. This is my issue with pit owners — I’ve never met a GSD or Rottweiler owner that didn’t have respect for the breed and its strengths/challenges. The pit owners are just largely oblivious and I blame it one the culture of “adopt don’t buy” combined with the rescues acting like these are not dogs with particular needs—the combination means that people are guilted into getting dogs that they are not qualified to handle and don’t have the right environment for. I think the pit fans do themselves no favors with this attitude.
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