Distraught about college son who’s happy about Trump

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Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

no advice, op but, I would be very disappointed. I would ask him to not discuss politics when around you and unfortunately I wouldn't want to be around him much.. Considering he has zero sympathy for women in this country and how are rights have been eroded

Oh look. A single, childless cat lady has joined the conversation.

Still trying to sort out why the childless cat ladies are concerned about access to abortions.

It's not difficult. Abortion is part of basic modern reproductive medical care for some women. Whether you are a man or a woman, you really don't need anyone other than your doctor involved in your basic reproductive medical decisions. This is not hard to understand. Everyone is childless until they actually have a child.

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Anonymous wrote:He is young. Continue to try to teach him.

Does he understand that he knows women that have had abortions? He may not know that he knows them, but he most certainly knows them. Is he really okay with them being as good as common murderers the minute they step over certain state borders?

Does he understand that he knows women that have been raped whether he personally knows this detail or not? Is he really okay with having a rapist in power over them?

If he's never been conned himself, he certainly knows people that have been conned. Is he okay with having a con artist sit in the highest office in the country?

Keep trying.

Honestly, he may know some men that have been raped as well, although that is not as common.

But a cis man can not get pregnant

The poster is talking about getting raped.

But isn't the argument for abortions is so that women who are raped will not have to deliver the child conceived in crime.

The poster in this thread is talking about being the victim of a crime and then having the perpetrator of such a crime putting power over you. It is completely disrespectful and insulting.

If you're the victim of a carjacking, you really don't want to have the carjacker put in the oval office.

Access to abortion is another really important issue and another really good reason not to have Trump sitting in the oval office.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again - not a troll. Just a sad mom struggling to reconcile the way we raised our son with the political direction he’s taken.

Sorry to hear and thanks for answering the questions. On the other end of the age scale, I am a boomer and 2 of my brothers who were hippies when they were in college turned into Trumpers. It is so gross. We pretty much stopped having get togethers because I cannot stand their racism. We weren't raised like that.

Your family of origin is having get togethers. They just are not inviting you. Maybe your son can go to the get togethers since you describe him as much more tolerant and intelligent.

HA! Trump loves the uneducated! And honestly, op is not missing much. If MAGA want to get together than great! But, they aren't intelligent or tolerant.

Tolerance is not a virtue. Charity, Justice, Mercy, Prudence, Honesty - These are virtues. Tolerating grave evil within society is itself a serious form of evil.

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Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

no advice, op but, I would be very disappointed. I would ask him to not discuss politics when around you and unfortunately I wouldn't want to be around him much.. Considering he has zero sympathy for women in this country and how are rights have been eroded

Oh look. A single, childless cat lady has joined the conversation.

Still trying to sort out why the childless cat ladies are concerned about access to abortions.

We care about women's access to health care. And single childless cat ladies can get pregnant. they also have women family and friends too. What about single childless men? Why is there no insult for them?

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Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

Is your son honest? Kind? Respectful to others? Is he smart and intellectually curious?
Is he in good health physically and mentally?
If you answered "yes" to all, you have nothing to worry about.
If you answered "no" to any, worry about those, not his politics.

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Republican policies vice Democrat policies are not necessarily tied to individual politicians whom you may like or dislike individually. Your son may be articulating a preference for conservative policies more than he is making any statement about the character of the President-elect. It sounds like that's actually the case when he speaks of his distaste for DEI policies he has encountered.

It's likely many people who took no offense at Harris as an individual found her policy positions unpalatable, and consequently voted for policies they prefer even if those policies are represented by an individual with unattractive personal traits.

Further, neither party necessarily appeals as a complete package to all people - it's likely that many people dislike some aspects of the platform of the party they supported; they disliked the other party's platform more, in the aggregate. It's probable that your son has sympathy for some Democrat policy positions, but that in the end he prefers more of what the Republican platform supports. Unfortunately, we don't vote policy by policy, but for complete packages which incorporate the good, the bad, and the ugly, so we align with the party which best represents us. That party may not represent us completely, however.

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of being distraught you should recognize that DEI and wokeness are toxic to many people, especially white men.

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Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

Is your son honest? Kind? Respectful to others? Is he smart and intellectually curious?
Is he in good health physically and mentally?
If you answered "yes" to all, you have nothing to worry about.
If you answered "no" to any, worry about those, not his politics.

I don't agree voting for trump says something about your kindness and respect-most MAGA are not kind, tolerant, and/or respectful. I think OP has reason to feel disappointed and worried.

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Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

Is your son honest? Kind? Respectful to others? Is he smart and intellectually curious?
Is he in good health physically and mentally?
If you answered "yes" to all, you have nothing to worry about.
If you answered "no" to any, worry about those, not his politics.

I don't agree voting for trump says something about your kindness and respect-most MAGA are not kind, tolerant, and/or respectful. I think OP has reason to feel disappointed and worried.

Sweeping generalizations and stereotyping hardly contribute to "kindness and respect". Individuals all have their own views, you may disagree with them but that does not render them illegitimate.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again - not a troll. Just a sad mom struggling to reconcile the way we raised our son with the political direction he’s taken.

Well what if you were republican and he decided to go progressive left? Either way, you don't seem to be an understanding person. I'll pray for you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again - not a troll. Just a sad mom struggling to reconcile the way we raised our son with the political direction he’s taken.

Sorry to hear and thanks for answering the questions. On the other end of the age scale, I am a boomer and 2 of my brothers who were hippies when they were in college turned into Trumpers. It is so gross. We pretty much stopped having get togethers because I cannot stand their racism. We weren't raised like that.

Your family of origin is having get togethers. They just are not inviting you. Maybe your son can go to the get togethers since you describe him as much more tolerant and intelligent.

HA! Trump loves the uneducated! And honestly, op is not missing much. If MAGA want to get together than great! But, they aren't intelligent or tolerant.

Tolerance is not a virtue. Charity, Justice, Mercy, Prudence, Honesty - These are virtues. Tolerating grave evil within society is itself a serious form of evil.

Let me introduce you to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ:

You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

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Sometimes, no matter what you do, you fail as a parent. I’d just cut him out of the will and move on.

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Unfortunate your adult son has children for parents. Embrace diversity of thought. It’s a very healthy thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republican policies vice Democrat policies are not necessarily tied to individual politicians whom you may like or dislike individually. Your son may be articulating a preference for conservative policies more than he is making any statement about the character of the President-elect. It sounds like that's actually the case when he speaks of his distaste for DEI policies he has encountered.

It's likely many people who took no offense at Harris as an individual found her policy positions unpalatable, and consequently voted for policies they prefer even if those policies are represented by an individual with unattractive personal traits.

Further, neither party necessarily appeals as a complete package to all people - it's likely that many people dislike some aspects of the platform of the party they supported; they disliked the other party's platform more, in the aggregate. It's probable that your son has sympathy for some Democrat policy positions, but that in the end he prefers more of what the Republican platform supports. Unfortunately, we don't vote policy by policy, but for complete packages which incorporate the good, the bad, and the ugly, so we align with the party which best represents us. That party may not represent us completely, however.

Trump is a something different. You vote for him than you are not any better

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are solid Democrats with progressive values. Upper middle class white family. Distraught and embarrassed that our college-age son is now a Republican. Too ashamed to tell people we know in real life. Heartsick that we raised a child who is happy about Trump being elected. He says a big reason is campus DEI and wokeness, which he feels has gone too far. Anyone else in this situation? How are you handling it? Any advice?

no advice, op but, I would be very disappointed. I would ask him to not discuss politics when around you and unfortunately I wouldn't want to be around him much.. Considering he has zero sympathy for women in this country and how are rights have been eroded

Oh look. A single, childless cat lady has joined the conversation.

Still trying to sort out why the childless cat ladies are concerned about access to abortions.

We care about women's access to health care. And single childless cat ladies can get pregnant. they also have women family and friends too. What about single childless men? Why is there no insult for them?

Men are perfect in every way....women are evil DEI hires