MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please. You are probably an angry renter furious about the fact that you can't afford a home in your crappy MoCo govt job salary. You want to take your frustration out on home owners because they're more successful than you, saved more diligently than you, and were able to buy a home as a result. Just because you can have what they have you want to ruin their homes and neighborhoods. If you want dense city life so much, go move to DC clown. Millions of people in the country do not want sh!tty urban life. Which is why they move to the burbs. Stop trying to bring urbanized cesspools to the burbs. Maybe you should also better yourself so you can afford a home rather than rent.

Yeah, right. Mommy and daddy paid all expenses for your overpriced, paper pushing education, which allowed you to "save more diligently" than others. You also hit the jackpot on the cock carousel, allowing you to get him to buy you your home (or at least allow you to pool your money) in exchange for birthing his children. So spare us your sanctimonious BS about saving more diligently and being more successful.

Housing is not an investment. You're gonna learn the hard way.

Actually, housing is an investment. And it has been historically. Not sure where you are getting your “information” other than in the corridors of your resentment that people save for homes and rightfully expect that investment to be protected by their government.

DP. Housing is an expense. A house is an asset. That, along with the property, might appreciate or depreciate, depending on market conditions. We have come to expect appreciation, and it is likely in a growing area due to general supply/demand.

Investment in a house/property has up front (down payment, transaction, move, etc.), periodic carrying (taxes, repair, etc.) and exit (transaction, any applicable cap gain tax, etc) costs that can be seen either as a part of one's housing expense, part of the investment expense or both. It may end up being a good investment or a bad one, especially in light of alternate investment options (opportunity cost) and expenses related to alternate housing options (e.g., renting).

And you are correct, there is a reasonable expectation that government policy not undermine that investment, if not protect it. There are many associated societal benefits. That should be weighed and considered with other expectations of govenment, encouraging adequate housing among them. Also with many associated societal benefits.

From the approach taken and from the resulting plan, that consideration among expectations appears to be sorely lacking in MoCo government at the moment.

The government’s “solution” to finding more affordable housing should not fall on the backs of middle and working class people for whom their home in Silver Spring or Wheaton is not just a shelter but an investment.

It’s obtuse to suggest that housing isn’t an asset. It is. And for most middle class / working class homeowners this asset helps to fund retirement and/or enables people to live inexpensively in retirement due to the equity they’ve built in their home.

Further, this proposal is inherently not equitable - multiple areas in MoCo are exempt. Rockville, Gaithersburg, Takoma Park … so some people suffer and some people won’t because they just happened to buy in more affordable parts of MoCo and don’t have any protection. So again, some parts of the county will be disproportionately hurt by this proposal. …. And it will be areas with more black and brown homeowners.

Lastly, there’s nothing in this proposal that mandates affordable housing. It’s nothing but a handout to developers who want to exploit the very real need for housing.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Another post that shows this isn't about the housing, it's about the people who (you fear) will live in the housing.

I get it: you like things the way they are, you don't want things to change. But "I, a current resident, don't want things to change" is not the basis for a sound housing policy for the county. Especially because things are going to change, whether the county changes the zoning or not.

Oh please. You are probably an angry renter furious about the fact that you can't afford a home in your crappy MoCo govt job salary. You want to take your frustration out on home owners because they're more successful than you, saved more diligently than you, and were able to buy a home as a result. Just because you can have what they have you want to ruin their homes and neighborhoods. If you want dense city life so much, go move to DC clown. Millions of people in the country do not want sh!tty urban life. Which is why they move to the burbs. Stop trying to bring urbanized cesspools to the burbs. Maybe you should also better yourself so you can afford a home rather than rent.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I've been a homeowner in Montgomery County for 25 years. In fact, I've been a homeowner of a detached SFH in Montgomery County for 25 years. And yes, I support the proposal.

Why?

Because the county needs more housing, of all types.
Because it makes sense to allow that housing to be built in many parts of the county, where there already is housing.
Because I am not afraid of renters or multi-unit housing.
Because I want Montgomery County to be a place where my kids will want to live, and be able to afford to live. And not just my kids, but all of the other kids in MCPS. All our kids.

You can't whine about more housing until you remove all of the illegal immigration hogging housing resources. You can't roll out the red carpet for illegal immigrants then complain about lack of affordable housing. Why should citizens ruin their neighborhoods because immigrants suck up huge amounts of affordable housing units that could be used for citizens? How about no? I'll agree to upzoning once you can actually prove there is a 'housing crisis' after you remove all foreign nationals not here legally.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I honestly don't care whether or not you "agree to" the proposed zoning changes. If the County Council votes to support the proposed zoning changes, they will happen whether you "agree to" them or not.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Not of them campaigned on eliminating single family zoning. They misled voters and were not transparent about their intentions for a major policy decision. So no people did not vote for this since the elected representatives hid this information from voters. Many people are against this idea and it's likely that a substantial number of these candidates would have been primaries if they campaigned on eliminating single family zoning.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Not of them campaigned on eliminating single family zoning. They misled voters and were not transparent about their intentions for a major policy decision. So no people did not vote for this since the elected representatives hid this information from voters. Many people are against this idea and it's likely that a substantial number of these candidates would have been primaries if they campaigned on eliminating single family zoning.

Yes, as you and others embraced progressiveness in our political environment and forced it on others with your vote you forgot that it might sneak into your little perfect corner of the world. Scary, huh? Oh well.

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Can we advocate for a referendum given the lack of prior transparency and clarity about these plans?

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Not of them campaigned on eliminating single family zoning. They misled voters and were not transparent about their intentions for a major policy decision. So no people did not vote for this since the elected representatives hid this information from voters. Many people are against this idea and it's likely that a substantial number of these candidates would have been primaries if they campaigned on eliminating single family zoning.

Please this has been out there since Obama's first term and his HUD department went full steam ahead with this and have been continuing it even though he is not in office any longer. It was his vision to disturb the suburban dystopia to equalize our living arrangements, don't believe me, go look it up. But no one, including me, every thought the "zip codes" in the DC area would ever be subjected to this until I saw what Bowser has done to the Connecticut Ave corridor, and she is rolling with Obama's HUD plan hook, line and sinker. Be smarter with your vision when you vote, it will come back to haunt you, always.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we advocate for a referendum given the lack of prior transparency and clarity about these plans?

Sure, let's go with that, lol.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Not of them campaigned on eliminating single family zoning. They misled voters and were not transparent about their intentions for a major policy decision. So no people did not vote for this since the elected representatives hid this information from voters. Many people are against this idea and it's likely that a substantial number of these candidates would have been primaries if they campaigned on eliminating single family zoning.

1. No they didn't "hide it"
2. Even if they had hidden it, it still wouldn't be anti-democracy
3. If you don't like a position that your elected representative takes, here are three options available to you in a democracy: tell your elected representative, vote for somebody else at the next election, try to initiate a recall

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Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Another post that shows this isn't about the housing, it's about the people who (you fear) will live in the housing.

I get it: you like things the way they are, you don't want things to change. But "I, a current resident, don't want things to change" is not the basis for a sound housing policy for the county. Especially because things are going to change, whether the county changes the zoning or not.

Oh please. You are probably an angry renter furious about the fact that you can't afford a home in your crappy MoCo govt job salary. You want to take your frustration out on home owners because they're more successful than you, saved more diligently than you, and were able to buy a home as a result. Just because you can have what they have you want to ruin their homes and neighborhoods. If you want dense city life so much, go move to DC clown. Millions of people in the country do not want sh!tty urban life. Which is why they move to the burbs. Stop trying to bring urbanized cesspools to the burbs. Maybe you should also better yourself so you can afford a home rather than rent.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I've been a homeowner in Montgomery County for 25 years. In fact, I've been a homeowner of a detached SFH in Montgomery County for 25 years. And yes, I support the proposal.

Why?

Because the county needs more housing, of all types.
Because it makes sense to allow that housing to be built in many parts of the county, where there already is housing.
Because I am not afraid of renters or multi-unit housing.
Because I want Montgomery County to be a place where my kids will want to live, and be able to afford to live. And not just my kids, but all of the other kids in MCPS. All our kids.

You can't whine about more housing until you remove all of the illegal immigration hogging housing resources. You can't roll out the red carpet for illegal immigrants then complain about lack of affordable housing. Why should citizens ruin their neighborhoods because immigrants suck up huge amounts of affordable housing units that could be used for citizens? How about no? I'll agree to upzoning once you can actually prove there is a 'housing crisis' after you remove all foreign nationals not here legally.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I honestly don't care whether or not you "agree to" the proposed zoning changes. If the County Council votes to support the proposed zoning changes, they will happen whether you "agree to" them or not.

And have fun once your tax base implodes as you make the county more impoverished while people with means flee their ruined neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Another post that shows this isn't about the housing, it's about the people who (you fear) will live in the housing.

I get it: you like things the way they are, you don't want things to change. But "I, a current resident, don't want things to change" is not the basis for a sound housing policy for the county. Especially because things are going to change, whether the county changes the zoning or not.

Oh please. You are probably an angry renter furious about the fact that you can't afford a home in your crappy MoCo govt job salary. You want to take your frustration out on home owners because they're more successful than you, saved more diligently than you, and were able to buy a home as a result. Just because you can have what they have you want to ruin their homes and neighborhoods. If you want dense city life so much, go move to DC clown. Millions of people in the country do not want sh!tty urban life. Which is why they move to the burbs. Stop trying to bring urbanized cesspools to the burbs. Maybe you should also better yourself so you can afford a home rather than rent.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I've been a homeowner in Montgomery County for 25 years. In fact, I've been a homeowner of a detached SFH in Montgomery County for 25 years. And yes, I support the proposal.

Why?

Because the county needs more housing, of all types.
Because it makes sense to allow that housing to be built in many parts of the county, where there already is housing.
Because I am not afraid of renters or multi-unit housing.
Because I want Montgomery County to be a place where my kids will want to live, and be able to afford to live. And not just my kids, but all of the other kids in MCPS. All our kids.

You can't whine about more housing until you remove all of the illegal immigration hogging housing resources. You can't roll out the red carpet for illegal immigrants then complain about lack of affordable housing. Why should citizens ruin their neighborhoods because immigrants suck up huge amounts of affordable housing units that could be used for citizens? How about no? I'll agree to upzoning once you can actually prove there is a 'housing crisis' after you remove all foreign nationals not here legally.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I honestly don't care whether or not you "agree to" the proposed zoning changes. If the County Council votes to support the proposed zoning changes, they will happen whether you "agree to" them or not.

At least we all seem to be in agreement that the council will vote to do whatever they want regardless of the will of the majority of their constituency.

Such tough talk from the YIMBYs that have been crying and sobbing like children about the zoning.

Wah Wah, but it’s not fair!

*stomp stomp*

Little Veruca Salts, the lot of them.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Changing zoning when a majority of residents don't support it is undemocratic. They did not give voters the chance to make their voice heard on this topic because none of them campaigned on the issue. They did not bother to do any polls among county residents determine whether most people support increasing the zoned density of their neighborhoods by 4-8x+. I don't think it is appropriate to hide this information from voters during the political campaign and then try to push through an unpopular policy after you win the election. If they genuinely believed that the majority of voters support eliminating single family zoning they would have campaigned on this issue because it would help them win. The fact that they did not campaign on this issue indicates that they are aware that this issue is widely unpopular and they planned on passing a policy that most voters do not support after they are elected. So yes, it is fundamentally undemocratic to eliminate single family zoning in this situation. Our elected officials are either pushing an unpopular ideological agenda or they are passing zoning changes to benefit large campaign donors. This does not represent the will of the voters.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Not of them campaigned on eliminating single family zoning. They misled voters and were not transparent about their intentions for a major policy decision. So no people did not vote for this since the elected representatives hid this information from voters. Many people are against this idea and it's likely that a substantial number of these candidates would have been primaries if they campaigned on eliminating single family zoning.

1. No they didn't "hide it"
2. Even if they had hidden it, it still wouldn't be anti-democracy
3. If you don't like a position that your elected representative takes, here are three options available to you in a democracy: tell your elected representative, vote for somebody else at the next election, try to initiate a recall

Yes, it is undemocratic to hide major campaign issues from voters. People cannot make informed decisions if people running for office hide information or lie to them. They did hide this issue from the public, not one of them mentioned they were going to upzone neighborhoods to quadruple the density or eliminate single family zoning. You do not respect democracy and only support it when it benefits your cause. That is not democratic.

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.

The expectation that zoning will not change - or will only change if the current residents of the neighborhood agree - is not a reasonable expectation.

So you are against democracy and you want developers to steamroll county residents? That is very progressive of you.

It's anti-democracy for elected officials in government to change the zoning? How about imposing zoning in the first place, was that also anti-democracy?

Not of them campaigned on eliminating single family zoning. They misled voters and were not transparent about their intentions for a major policy decision. So no people did not vote for this since the elected representatives hid this information from voters. Many people are against this idea and it's likely that a substantial number of these candidates would have been primaries if they campaigned on eliminating single family zoning.

Please this has been out there since Obama's first term and his HUD department went full steam ahead with this and have been continuing it even though he is not in office any longer. It was his vision to disturb the suburban dystopia to equalize our living arrangements, don't believe me, go look it up. But no one, including me, every thought the "zip codes" in the DC area would ever be subjected to this until I saw what Bowser has done to the Connecticut Ave corridor, and she is rolling with Obama's HUD plan hook, line and sinker. Be smarter with your vision when you vote, it will come back to haunt you, always.

I didn't vote for these people and I do not support Obamas AFFH rule. I think it is unconstitutional. SCOTUS will likely overturn it when HUD trs tries implement it (assuming Harris wins). HUD probably does not have legal authority to implement this rule now that Chevron has been overturned.

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I just think it his funny how anyone thinks this will benefit the middle class. No, they’re just going to turn primo land held by the middle class into cesspools. That way firms like blackrock can come in, take all of the middle class homes for cheap by using all cash, then turn the entire area into permanent renters for life. The elites so desperately want to remove homeownership out of the hands of the middle class. The Dems are helping them do it too because they’re so easily duped by promises of ‘affordable housing’. Nope. It will all be owned by investors who’ll build the cheapest garbage possible and do as little maintenance as possible. They will turn the entire area into favelas run by corporate slumlords. The road to hell is always paved with good intentions.