MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning

[Anonymous]

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

[Anonymous]

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

[Anonymous]

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MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Curious, how are they documenting these concerns raised at the listening sessions?

Most of them are not available online, there are no recordings, and as far as I know, there are no minutes.

Guessing that this will be just like Thrive with the listening sessions taking place as a checkbox for the county to say that they “listened to concerns.”

This is just a YIMBY attempt to try to head off lawsuits by saying that there was “public input.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

Yeah, right, like you weren’t already vibrating with excitement to spread your propaganda.

[Anonymous]

The title should be “eliminate single family zoning” not limit. Single family zoning will no longer exist in MOCO if this bill passes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

The council will soon be faced with a decision on the proposal which, if passed, would allow duplexes, triplexes and smaller apartment buildings to be built in single-family home neighborhoods. However, the council hasn’t set dates for decisions yet.

So what's the point in zoning if my neighbor can sell to a developer who will build an apartment on the lot? What about sewage, traffic, overcrowding?
They are delusional if they think any of those will be affordable homes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

The council will soon be faced with a decision on the proposal which, if passed, would allow duplexes, triplexes and smaller apartment buildings to be built in single-family home neighborhoods. However, the council hasn’t set dates for decisions yet.

So what's the point in zoning if my neighbor can sell to a developer who will build an apartment on the lot? What about sewage, traffic, overcrowding?
They are delusional if they think any of those will be affordable homes.

They are proposing to change the zoning code. They are not proposing to eliminate zoning.

[Anonymous]

I’m all for it if they confine it to Potomac, Bethesda, Chevy Chase, and the good part of Kensington. Ya know…the expensive areas that can afford to absorb more families with kids and more diversity (both racial and economic).

But allowing this higher-density housing in neighborhoods where lower income immigrants and minorities are already doubled and tripled and sometimes quadrupled up in SFHs is just a bad idea that will result in overcrowded schools and unhealthy environments.

Did everyone see the recent (maybe a month or so ago) Redfin link to a flop house in 20906? That area is filled with SFHs that people have converted for multiple families to rent. And it’s not good. Crime is bad, schools are bad, and it’s prompting white flight.

Neighborhoods aren’t diverse when they are 90%+ one ethnic group. The schools suffer, the area businesses shift, and some areas effectively become no go zones.

When is the last time anyone shopped in Glenmont? Or Veirs Mill Village?

It’s fine to build such housing in areas where it’s expected: where people can access public transportation and walkability is high. Or try to build it on the west side of the county (that for whatever reason escaped having multiple garden apartments and affordable housing). Heck, you could plop down massive tiny home communities on the large lots in Potomac. Have at it!

[Anonymous]

What's the point? They'll still proceed with their communist plans anyway.

We will achieve equality in MoCo when we are all equally in the gutter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the point? They'll still proceed with their communist plans anyway.

We will achieve equality in MoCo when we are all equally in the gutter.

Yes, Karl Marx was a huge supporter of letting owners of private property decide what to do with their property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for it if they confine it to Potomac, Bethesda, Chevy Chase, and the good part of Kensington. Ya know…the expensive areas that can afford to absorb more families with kids and more diversity (both racial and economic).

But allowing this higher-density housing in neighborhoods where lower income immigrants and minorities are already doubled and tripled and sometimes quadrupled up in SFHs is just a bad idea that will result in overcrowded schools and unhealthy environments.

Did everyone see the recent (maybe a month or so ago) Redfin link to a flop house in 20906? That area is filled with SFHs that people have converted for multiple families to rent. And it’s not good. Crime is bad, schools are bad, and it’s prompting white flight.

Neighborhoods aren’t diverse when they are 90%+ one ethnic group. The schools suffer, the area businesses shift, and some areas effectively become no go zones.

When is the last time anyone shopped in Glenmont? Or Veirs Mill Village?

It’s fine to build such housing in areas where it’s expected: where people can access public transportation and walkability is high. Or try to build it on the west side of the county (that for whatever reason escaped having multiple garden apartments and affordable housing). Heck, you could plop down massive tiny home communities on the large lots in Potomac. Have at it!

+1000


Of course the areas targeted will be SS, Wheaton, etc. They need to start with the historic districts in Takoma Park and Kensington. Then Bethesda. Then Chevy Chase. Rockville deserves it too. Silver spring should be absolutely last to have these ideas imposed. Put up or shutup progressives. There should be zero exemptions for anyone. No loopholes with incorporated sub districts/ cities allowed. Start with all of the wealthiest areas first. If they want equality so much, it makes so much more sense to house poors with the richest first, that way impoverished people will magically absorb some of the wealth by simply living in those areas. They voted for it, so give it to em.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m all for it if they confine it to Potomac, Bethesda, Chevy Chase, and the good part of Kensington. Ya know…the expensive areas that can afford to absorb more families with kids and more diversity (both racial and economic).

But allowing this higher-density housing in neighborhoods where lower income immigrants and minorities are already doubled and tripled and sometimes quadrupled up in SFHs is just a bad idea that will result in overcrowded schools and unhealthy environments.

Did everyone see the recent (maybe a month or so ago) Redfin link to a flop house in 20906? That area is filled with SFHs that people have converted for multiple families to rent. And it’s not good. Crime is bad, schools are bad, and it’s prompting white flight.

Neighborhoods aren’t diverse when they are 90%+ one ethnic group. The schools suffer, the area businesses shift, and some areas effectively become no go zones.

When is the last time anyone shopped in Glenmont? Or Veirs Mill Village?

It’s fine to build such housing in areas where it’s expected: where people can access public transportation and walkability is high. Or try to build it on the west side of the county (that for whatever reason escaped having multiple garden apartments and affordable housing). Heck, you could plop down massive tiny home communities on the large lots in Potomac. Have at it!

You're kidding, right? You must be kidding. Surely you're kidding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

The council will soon be faced with a decision on the proposal which, if passed, would allow duplexes, triplexes and smaller apartment buildings to be built in single-family home neighborhoods. However, the council hasn’t set dates for decisions yet.

So what's the point in zoning if my neighbor can sell to a developer who will build an apartment on the lot? What about sewage, traffic, overcrowding?
They are delusional if they think any of those will be affordable homes.

You're going to get exactly what you expect. You'll get a triplex next you ther will end up housing 20 people, each of whom have cars. They'll park them all over the street. They'll all be renters who give zero craps about the property, so expect the lot to turn into run down dump where they barely take care of the exterior or grass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

The council will soon be faced with a decision on the proposal which, if passed, would allow duplexes, triplexes and smaller apartment buildings to be built in single-family home neighborhoods. However, the council hasn’t set dates for decisions yet.

So what's the point in zoning if my neighbor can sell to a developer who will build an apartment on the lot? What about sewage, traffic, overcrowding?
They are delusional if they think any of those will be affordable homes.

You're going to get exactly what you expect. You'll get a triplex next you ther will end up housing 20 people, each of whom have cars. They'll park them all over the street. They'll all be renters who give zero craps about the property, so expect the lot to turn into run down dump where they barely take care of the exterior or grass.

Then maybe the government should be the landlord. The government is good at painting and lawn maintenance. That's the kind of work that requires highly skilled bureaucrats.

[Anonymous]

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Silver-Spring/2608-Woodedge-Rd-20906/home/11068850

This is the house in 20906 that is emblematic of what quadrupling up looks like—and it’s already happening in SS. It’s not good.

That neighborhood has shifted dramatically and the schools are suffering. Even more established immigrants are an abandoning the area and heading up county. Why? Because they had reasons why they left their country and their goal was to live among affluent white Americans—and send their kids to schools with affluent Americans. I know this because I work among this community of people and you can see the uptick in families moving to farther flung areas that are less diverse precisely for these reasons.

Everything in moderation, people.