MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

Typical YIMBY hypocrisy.....the density that doesn't support the narrative "won't get built", but the density they do support will not only get built but also solve all of the region's problems.

[Anonymous]

I will be donating $1,000 to support the inevitable lawsuit against this MoCo stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

So rather than address the actual problems you choose to create other problems?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

Typical YIMBY hypocrisy.....the density that doesn't support the narrative "won't get built", but the density they do support will not only get built but also solve all of the region's problems.

Also don’t see any reference to affordability. 181 units - all marked up and unaffordable so the developers get rich …. But somehow SFH owners are the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

So rather than address the actual problems you choose to create other problems?

This is the YIMBY way. The developers have successfully scapegoated zoning as the reason for high housing costs and mobilized a battalion of useful idiots to spread the word.
If you want more housing, make waiting to build approved units costlier and riskier than it is to build right now.

[Anonymous]

Oct 17, 2024
Dear all,
You signed a petition in favor of protecting single-family zoning in Montgomery County, Maryland. I have sent the petition twice to the full Montgomery County Council. Not one councilmember has responded. I will send it again tomorrow (10/18). Please circulate the petition a final time this evening, if possible, encouraging others to sign. Here is the link to share:

www.change.org/ProtectSingleFamilyZoning

Also, Council staff are about to finalize their analysis of community feedback. The deadline for your comments to be considered as part of that analysis is 5:00 PM on Friday, October 18. I encourage you to submit comments directly via this link:

https://mcgmd.wufoo.com/forms/z823ui90z2ksvq/

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Just FYI, there is a ton of construction going on, both in definitionally affordable (1200 new units in FY 25) as well as a lot of market rate housing of all types.

Also, the Planning Board is suggesting rezoning in pretty much every master, sector and corridor plan that is coming down the pike (no pun intended). Seriously, check out the Takoma Park Master Plan amdt, University Blvd Corridor Plan and the Bethesda Master Plan amdt. Friendship Heights is up soon too.

I have seen numbers that Bethesda has twice as many units slated than the target.

So density is coming. Likely way more than the COG target of 40,000 units...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, there is a ton of construction going on, both in definitionally affordable (1200 new units in FY 25) as well as a lot of market rate housing of all types.

Also, the Planning Board is suggesting rezoning in pretty much every master, sector and corridor plan that is coming down the pike (no pun intended). Seriously, check out the Takoma Park Master Plan amdt, University Blvd Corridor Plan and the Bethesda Master Plan amdt. Friendship Heights is up soon too.

I have seen numbers that Bethesda has twice as many units slated than the target.

So density is coming. Likely way more than the COG target of 40,000 units...

Not many people have a problem with planned, useful, density. The upzoning, though, is a ruse that’s almost completely unrelated to building additional housing. It’s about changing the nature of the suburbs, which is why it is so hugely unpopular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

So rather than address the actual problems you choose to create other problems?

It's what they do

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, look at this. An entire development of townhomes? Right here in Montgomery County?

I thought that the YIMBYs said that this was ILLEGAL? My gosh, building illegal homes right under our noses!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/02/new-82-unit-townhome-community-on-tower-oaks-blvd-receives-preliminary-approval/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Jbt2dMJcMCJPAdUGUOApY6Fz_u3irlE-z500aigec0Uizv-dNP_u5yCs_aem_4gtbPCyqNjcQZE5-jiiYkA

LMAO. This seems to be a little more sane than trying to insert these where they weren’t meant to be. I mean, what is this, actual planning? In our county?

“ The project plan includes 82 townhome units, featuring both front- and rear-loaded designs, along with a central open-space plaza. The Planning Commission also reviewed the project, approving a level 2 site plan application earlier this summer.”

Wow, look, more housing!

Look at the crisis!

https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/03/rockville-office-building-may-convert-to-181-unit-residential-multifamily-building/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR03Cg-rVs79YckvbBw8TTNIGRt94JIknEBv64jT908oONIuNH-CIr-terc_aem_vofmJTI0K1lji1EvRa_urg

The crisis is that the developer won’t build these anytime soon, and planning will give them extension after extension even though it would clearly be in the public interest for the houses to be built now. Meanwhile, the developer will use the newly more valuable land as collateral for a loan to buy other land or fund projects in places where they can make more money.

So rather than address the actual problems you choose to create other problems?

Yeah. Sounds like a better solution, there, would be to time limit approvals so that things don't remain fallow with continuing expectation and to ensure that reasonable taxes are collected on vacant but densely zoned land to encourage use. Oh, and to establish penalties for leaving razed but unremediated, half-built or abandoned/unmaintained structures, houses included.