Vance’s Latest Misogynistic View

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with his core premise—- it’s much better , in most cases, for a child to be raised by parents/grandparents vs daycare. Universal daycare is what is eww in this discussion.

I do too. Totally.

I would also like to point out that this audio is clearly edited... who knows what is spliced or missing. And, it is an article from Salon, so that makes it even more questionable.
Having said that, if advocating for having a grandparent assist with the care of a newborn infant is misogynistic, call me a misogynist. I like when he pointed out that she could have just continued working and given some of her salary to help them out, but she chose to help with the care itself.
And, I say this as someone who is currently in this exact position.... and I'm not Indian. A grandmother who is lucky enough to help with the care of her grandchild during the critical first years of development. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

That's wonderful but many grandparents are still working, many are infirm, many kids have moved far from home so the grandparents aren't there to help, my own parents have a little of both - my father is still working and my mother has a debilitating disease that would make it impossible for her to have helped even if the kids were still close by enough for them to help to the degree that daycare wouldn't have been necessary.

But it's nice that you've figured out all the secrets to life.

I think it would be a really nice policy to mandate for a one year sabbatical for any person who wants to take care of any other person- whether it is a child, parent, grandchild, partner, or even a friend.

Imagine how many people that would help, how many people wouldn’t be alone at the end of their lives, how many children would have a loving caregiver, how many unmarried people could have care from someone who loves them.

Still waiting for Republicans to propose this!

You mean go a year without pay but have your job held open while you're out? Sounds very doable.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that the nitwit right wing sycophants and JD's enabling wife have to keep rephrasing what he "really meant" -- as if this dweeb isn't a middle aged TRAINED LAWYER WITH A DEGREE FROM YALE LAW SCHOOL. Trained lawyers are very, very deliberate about how they speak and know precisely what words mean.

+1
He means what he says and he says what he means. If you find yourself having to explain away what your two weirdos have said this time, you should just accept what you’re doing instead of trying to convince the rest of us we heard them wrong.

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It must really set Vance off that women don't have to answer intrusive questions about their reproductive history and status in order to vote.

He said he's in favor of menstrual tracking and preventing women from traveling across state lines (and having police be able to question them) to check if it's for reasons related to reproductive health or abortion.

I can only imagine the opportunity for police abuse and mistreatment if they are able to stop women in cars at night asking probing questions about their sexual activity and menstrual history.

I have two daughters and the republican nominee's vision for our country's future scares me. My older daughter will only be 17 this November so she can't vote and she asks me several times a week, what I'm doing to stop Trump/Vance from winning.

She is scared. So am I.

I am voting for Harris and Walz like my and my daughter's life depends on it. because it does.

ditto

Double this..... Even a Jehovah's witness who I work with is voting in this election and it's against their religion.... That is how strongly they feel about the ability to make medical decisions on their own. 😳

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love that the nitwit right wing sycophants and JD's enabling wife have to keep rephrasing what he "really meant" -- as if this dweeb isn't a middle aged TRAINED LAWYER WITH A DEGREE FROM YALE LAW SCHOOL. Trained lawyers are very, very deliberate about how they speak and know precisely what words mean.

Does she go to court with him to tell the jury what he really meant to say and that his client really isn't guilty and he didn't mean to imply that he was

He's not a very experienced lawyer. He graduated Yale Law School, clerked for a year, then practiced law for less than two years before he bailed on that to join Thile as a venture capitalist.

In fact, he's not very experienced at anything in life. So, after graduating high school: 4 years enlisted Marine, 3 years college student, 4 years law school, 1 year law clerk, < 2 years lawyer, 5 years working venture capitalist but worked at or started up 4 different companies. The only client/business that he stayed with for the 5 year period, AppHarvest, went bankrupt right after he bailed on the company (no wonder Trump loves him). Then he ran for the Senate and less than 2 years in, he's running for VP.

He doesn't stick with much of anything for very long. He is a jack of many trades and an expert at none.

So why do we think that he will be either able to be a politician or even be good at it?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me the women in his life have to constantly clean up after his messes.... That is not a person who I want as a president

The sad thing is that he won't even admit they are useful for that. The women in his life are supposed to go around and clean the couches after him, but not say anything about it.

[Anonymous]

I hope Vance loses not just the VP, but also his Senate seat in 4 yrs.

Go back to writing fictitious books.

No one should sit this election out. The consequences are real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope Vance loses not just the VP, but also his Senate seat in 4 yrs.

Go back to writing fictitious books.

No one should sit this election out. The consequences are real.

Yep.
Vote.GOV
Vote.ORG

And do what you are able to do in whatever support works for you.

[Anonymous]

Also he said on Fox this week that he doesn't think suburban women care about reproductive rights, they'd rather focus on normal issues. It would be fun to show him how wrong he is as a suburban woman who cares very much.

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On top of the wannabe authoritarian’s other archaic views of women, the Ohio senator revealed to Fox News Wednesday that he doesn’t believe it’s “normal” for suburban women to care about their reproductive rights.

“What do you say to suburban women out there who are marinating in this propaganda?” prompted Fox News host Laura Ingraham, claiming that some women have fallen into the belief that abortion is banned nationally.

“Well, first of all, I don’t buy that, Laura,” Vance said. “I think most suburban women care about the normal things that most Americans care about.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/184896/jd-vance-claim-women-voters-rights

[Anonymous]

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On top of the wannabe authoritarian’s other archaic views of women, the Ohio senator revealed to Fox News Wednesday that he doesn’t believe it’s “normal” for suburban women to care about their reproductive rights.

“What do you say to suburban women out there who are marinating in this propaganda?” prompted Fox News host Laura Ingraham, claiming that some women have fallen into the belief that abortion is banned nationally.

“Well, first of all, I don’t buy that, Laura,” Vance said. “I think most suburban women care about the normal things that most Americans care about.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/184896/jd-vance-claim-women-voters-rights

he's trying to make women who are fighting for their rights sound abnormal or weird. sorry vance, that won't work - it's you that is the outlier with fringe views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope Vance loses not just the VP, but also his Senate seat in 4 yrs.

Go back to writing fictitious books.

No one should sit this election out. The consequences are real.

Yep.
Vote.GOV
Vote.ORG

And do what you are able to do in whatever support works for you.

+1. no one should sit this election out! we won't go backward.

[Anonymous]

Yes, don't go back.

[Anonymous]

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On top of the wannabe authoritarian’s other archaic views of women, the Ohio senator revealed to Fox News Wednesday that he doesn’t believe it’s “normal” for suburban women to care about their reproductive rights.

“What do you say to suburban women out there who are marinating in this propaganda?” prompted Fox News host Laura Ingraham, claiming that some women have fallen into the belief that abortion is banned nationally.

“Well, first of all, I don’t buy that, Laura,” Vance said. “I think most suburban women care about the normal things that most Americans care about.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/184896/jd-vance-claim-women-voters-rights

he's trying to make women who are fighting for their rights sound abnormal or weird. sorry vance, that won't work - it's you that is the outlier with fringe views.

He is making this fatal mistake of continually insulting vast swaths of voters- childless women, post menopausal women, working women, people who love cats…. Has this friendless loser ever met a cat lover???

You do not F with people who love cats!!🐈‍⬛

How does anyone think this “trained lawyer” is going to debate a normal? He is so completely out of touch and living on another planet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The wording of this statement is just bad and it gives the left great content to create political attacks. However, the statement itself if consistent with commonly accepted human evolutionary theory regarding the grandparents providing a survival advantage for grandkids.

Come on. Speak like a normal human. It sounds like your brain is rotting in redpill nonsense when you start talking about the world through "evolutionary theory" and "survival advantage."

Look on the bright side - Vance believes in evolutionary theory!

Honestly, I think he is faking the whole religion thing. He does not talk like he is a remotely religious person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with his core premise—- it’s much better , in most cases, for a child to be raised by parents/grandparents vs daycare. Universal daycare is what is eww in this discussion.

I do too. Totally.

I would also like to point out that this audio is clearly edited... who knows what is spliced or missing. And, it is an article from Salon, so that makes it even more questionable.
Having said that, if advocating for having a grandparent assist with the care of a newborn infant is misogynistic, call me a misogynist. I like when he pointed out that she could have just continued working and given some of her salary to help them out, but she chose to help with the care itself.
And, I say this as someone who is currently in this exact position.... and I'm not Indian. A grandmother who is lucky enough to help with the care of her grandchild during the critical first years of development. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

That's wonderful but many grandparents are still working, many are infirm, many kids have moved far from home so the grandparents aren't there to help, my own parents have a little of both - my father is still working and my mother has a debilitating disease that would make it impossible for her to have helped even if the kids were still close by enough for them to help to the degree that daycare wouldn't have been necessary.

But it's nice that you've figured out all the secrets to life.

Good grief. Where did he say that he thinks everyone should do this? He didn't. In fact, he feels fortunate that his family was able to make this work.

I listened to the whole podcast. And, as I suspected, the article cherry picked comments out of context to get the outrage up. Not surprised at all.

Vance even said earlier on in the podcast that we should have legislation to make it easier to allow a parent to remain home during the first year, and acknowledging that this would probably be mostly the moms who chose to do that because...... Yes, research indicates that mothers would like to stay home longer with their children (as opposed to fathers). That is just fact.

The conversation was interesting and involved a hell of a lot more than this article chose to cite. And, in the context of the entire conversation, and the context of what data shows about parents' choices, what he said was very relevant and not at all misogynistic.

Some of you seem to act like having children is a curse. I feel sorry for you.

Here is the entire podcast..... the discussion about families and work/life balance is the last fourth of the podcast.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563?i=1000473090465

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

On top of the wannabe authoritarian’s other archaic views of women, the Ohio senator revealed to Fox News Wednesday that he doesn’t believe it’s “normal” for suburban women to care about their reproductive rights.

“What do you say to suburban women out there who are marinating in this propaganda?” prompted Fox News host Laura Ingraham, claiming that some women have fallen into the belief that abortion is banned nationally.

“Well, first of all, I don’t buy that, Laura,” Vance said. “I think most suburban women care about the normal things that most Americans care about.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/184896/jd-vance-claim-women-voters-rights

he's trying to make women who are fighting for their rights sound abnormal or weird. sorry vance, that won't work - it's you that is the outlier with fringe views.

He is making this fatal mistake of continually insulting vast swaths of voters- childless women, post menopausal women, working women, people who love cats…. Has this friendless loser ever met a cat lover???

You do not F with people who love cats!!🐈‍⬛

How does anyone think this “trained lawyer” is going to debate a normal? He is so completely out of touch and living on another planet.

Agree! Cat woman here who is very very pissed with JD! 😡