MoCo Chief of Police now head of MCPS Security

[Anonymous]

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I don't know how Marcus Jones feels about MCPD. But he was its chief and he has partnered with MCPS to spin and talk about crap that he knew were lies because again, regardless of whether they're MCPD or MCPS, MoCo is gonna protect MoCo. And since he was comfortable with the garbage spin that he spouted alongside Brian Hull here, I'm not convinced he'll suddenly become a truthteller.

LINK: https://www.facebook.com/mcpnews/videos/3674465332819978

The tangled relationship between the two is why MCPD stopped always posting on social media when a crime or serious incident was happening at a school because MCPS put pressure on MCPD that they were stirring the community up and making their life more difficult.

Haha.. MCPD has never covered up for MCPS. The reason we heard about the alleged Rockville HS gang rape is because MCPD put out a press release.. MCPS was busy covering it up.

But OK, that was years ago, let's look at the past few months:

That's just the last 2 months. MCPD is defintely NOT covering up for MCPS.

MCPD has a long history of covering up for MCPS. It is only in the last few years that police reports even identified schools as locations. They used to just print an address and you had to know the addresses of 209 school building to know that an arrest was made at a school. Arrest statements never revealed when a MCPS employee was arrested.

Looks like you are missing some reports. Where is the press release on the break in at Poolesville High School?

[Anonymous]

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MCPD has a long history of covering up for MCPS. It is only in the last few years that police reports even identified schools as locations. They used to just print an address and you had to know the addresses of 209 school building to know that an arrest was made at a school. Arrest statements never revealed when a MCPS employee was arrested.

Looks like you are missing some reports. Where is the press release on the break in at Poolesville High School?

I presented you with hard evidence of MCPD not covering up for MCPS and you are now stating that they don't cover up any more but used to..? Or they cover up burglaries now, but not the more important stuff? You seem to be making braod claims without evidence.

[Anonymous]

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MCPD has a long history of covering up for MCPS. It is only in the last few years that police reports even identified schools as locations. They used to just print an address and you had to know the addresses of 209 school building to know that an arrest was made at a school. Arrest statements never revealed when a MCPS employee was arrested.

Looks like you are missing some reports. Where is the press release on the break in at Poolesville High School?

I presented you with hard evidence of MCPD not covering up for MCPS and you are now stating that they don't cover up any more but used to..? Or they cover up burglaries now, but not the more important stuff? You seem to be making braod claims without evidence.

Reporting some things in not reporting everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

[Anonymous]

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I don't know how Marcus Jones feels about MCPD. But he was its chief and he has partnered with MCPS to spin and talk about crap that he knew were lies because again, regardless of whether they're MCPD or MCPS, MoCo is gonna protect MoCo. And since he was comfortable with the garbage spin that he spouted alongside Brian Hull here, I'm not convinced he'll suddenly become a truthteller.

LINK: https://www.facebook.com/mcpnews/videos/3674465332819978

The tangled relationship between the two is why MCPD stopped always posting on social media when a crime or serious incident was happening at a school because MCPS put pressure on MCPD that they were stirring the community up and making their life more difficult.

Haha.. MCPD has never covered up for MCPS. The reason we heard about the alleged Rockville HS gang rape is because MCPD put out a press release.. MCPS was busy covering it up.

But OK, that was years ago, let's look at the past few months:

That's just the last 2 months. MCPD is defintely NOT covering up for MCPS.

MCPD has a long history of covering up for MCPS. It is only in the last few years that police reports even identified schools as locations. They used to just print an address and you had to know the addresses of 209 school building to know that an arrest was made at a school. Arrest statements never revealed when a MCPS employee was arrested.

Looks like you are missing some reports. Where is the press release on the break in at Poolesville High School?

Yup! You know what you are talking about. The poster arguing with us is clueless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

Where am I posting aggressively? Such a strange word choice. And what do I have to live with, exactly? The fact I’m happy with this appointment? Okay, I’ll live with it.

I see his experience as a benefit, and your vague references to “firsthand experiences” do nothing to change that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

Where am I posting aggressively? Such a strange word choice. And what do I have to live with, exactly? The fact I’m happy with this appointment? Okay, I’ll live with it.

I see his experience as a benefit, and your vague references to “firsthand experiences” do nothing to change that.

If you’re happy with the choice, why are you going back and forth with people who aren’t? Move on with your life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

DP. Frankly, I think you use "conflict of interest" and "corruption" far too liberally to the point that they lose all meaning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

DP. Frankly, I think you use "conflict of interest" and "corruption" far too liberally to the point that they lose all meaning.

What’s your definition of those terms and why is your interpretation the most credible and authoritative one and why does your interpretation of those terms not apply to this choice by MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

Where am I posting aggressively? Such a strange word choice. And what do I have to live with, exactly? The fact I’m happy with this appointment? Okay, I’ll live with it.

I see his experience as a benefit, and your vague references to “firsthand experiences” do nothing to change that.

Now police calls that don't get press releases are vague.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

The whole goal is to have a successful partnership between MCPD and MCPS, not to have an adversarial one. I think he would be a great person to strengthen this relationship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police officers are eligible for retirement after 25 years of service, so if you started right out of college, you'd be under age 50 when you retire. No surprise many start another career. The securty head at a private where our DS used to go was a former cop.

I think it's a great fit for the job -- he knows the county, he knows crime, and he knows the officers.

It is a conflict of interest to have someone who is former MCPD to serve in a role in MCPS where he might have to be adversarial or critical of MCPD, or vice versa where MCPD needs to be critical of MCPS, but won't because their former boss will get the blowback if they do.

It would be a conflict of interest to hold both positions at the same time, not to hold them consecutively.

If you think Yamada, as the new MCPD police chief, won’t be hesitant to throw his former boss, Marcus Jones, under the bus as head of security at MCPS, then I think you have a weak understanding of how human relationships work.

So much speculation.

Perhaps that’s how you relate with others. That’s certainly not how I do.

There is at least one poster here (possibly two) who have nothing to contribute other than some ingrained hatred toward anybody associated with MCPD.

But clearly there are those of us who see this as good news for MCPS, and I’m glad somebody with experience and knowledge of the county will be at the helm of school security.

Not really. The reality is you are unwilling or incapable of thinking critically about the choice MCPS is made. You lack an understanding of the power dynamics and how the two agencies have covered or collaborated in the past.

For some reason, you feel a need to defend the choice MCPS aggressively. I don’t know why.

But those of us who have inside knowledge, firsthand experience and a real understanding of why organizations should and do have policies that avoid the kinds of conflicts of interest that MoCo government agencies seem to run roughshod over will continue to point out the problems with this hire. Live with it.

DP. Frankly, I think you use "conflict of interest" and "corruption" far too liberally to the point that they lose all meaning.

What’s your definition of those terms and why is your interpretation the most credible and authoritative one and why does your interpretation of those terms not apply to this choice by MCPS?

Omg. Just look them up. I don't know why it's so important to you that I agree with you. Lol