SAHM to working mom

[Anonymous]

An earlier poster said, "I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career."

I have seen this as well. My wife hired 2 SAHMs who wanted to get back in the workforce when their kids hit elementary school, and both were complete disasters. They'd try to be on Teams calls when they were driving their kids around, would lie about being sick on the same day that I saw them hanging out at a farmer's market with their kids, etc. They both did barely enough to not get fired, and both ended up quitting after a year.

The funny thing in retrospect is that during their interviews, both said, "One thing you should know is that my kids come first..."

What wasn't obvious was how literally they were speaking. What they were actually saying was, "I will accept a salary, but will barely do any work."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just returned to the workforce and was never asked to explain across the 3 positions I interviewed for. I was expecting it to come up so prepared a response about being a caregiver who had kept my skills sharp through extensive volunteering and was now ready to go 100% in. But I wasn’t asked at all. Maybe because I addressed it in my cover letter?

My company’s HR department has told us not to ask abut gaps. It can open them up to a discrimination lawsuit. So if you don’t want to discus it you likely will never need to.

This is actually great. It makes it so awkward, and is unnecessary to ask about (assuming you weren’t in prison during the work gap.)

[Anonymous]

It is not discrimination to ask about gaps in employment history.

That is normal process of finding out about the candidate and what skills sets, experiences, etc they bring to the table.
People have to explain various gaps all the time (gaps between school, employment).

If someone thinks that is discriminatory, that actually speaks to them having discriminatory tendencies.

[Anonymous]

This thread has gone off the rails. I do not think OP meant to offend anyone. I think her goal was actually to NOT offend. I interpreted her post as wanting to be sure her explanation for her gap doesn’t come off as sounding like she thinks all kids need to have a mom at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not discrimination to ask about gaps in employment history.

That is normal process of finding out about the candidate and what skills sets, experiences, etc they bring to the table.
People have to explain various gaps all the time (gaps between school, employment).

If someone thinks that is discriminatory, that actually speaks to them having discriminatory tendencies.

The skills are already made evident from listed experiences, not from an absence of such. Maybe you might be concerned that someone “forgets” something in between jobs but unless someone experiences a brain injury this issue is massively overstated. I’ve had no issues picking up things on the fly, there will always be a learning curve when you switch jobs — gaps or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone off the rails. I do not think OP meant to offend anyone. I think her goal was actually to NOT offend. I interpreted her post as wanting to be sure her explanation for her gap doesn’t come off as sounding like she thinks all kids need to have a mom at home.

But who cares? Hiring managers are probably burnt out from being short staffed and can’t see past their own 4pm deadline.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be arrogant in your interview.

Remember you are essentially a new college grad with no experience and out of date skills.

Don’t mention you have kids because after SAH it’s clear your h has no interest in being involved in the kids lives so they will assume you will take off every time they are sick.

Say you took time to care for a dying aunt.

This. Here’s my bias as a working mom:

1. You don’t really want to work
2. You didn’t value your career
3. You don’t have a spouse who does his share at home
4. Your spouse is now used to you doing everything and all sick days will fall on you
5. You’ll talk about your kid all the time because it’s been your life and you don’t understand other people don’t care about your kids anymore than someone’s pet or vacation

Exhibit A as to how terribly women treat other women.

Yup. I work in a male dominated field and it’s been a breeze getting time off whenever I need even to *gasp* care for children! They also don’t mind me talking about my kids and even talk about their own kids, if you can imagine it.

My boss even let me go part time when I requested it, even though my “excuse” was simply that I wanted more time with my kids.

So advice for the “biased” working mom: get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting like an AH.

Interesting point. I’ve had two phases to my career, both in male-dominated industries. Both have been family-friendly and understanding to moms and dads when childcare needs have arisen or for me when I wanted to scale back to part-time. I think women can be prone to treat other women horribly, and I’ve seen the most obnoxious statements on the issue here on dcum.

Agree. I have seen the same in my workplaces. The female bosses have been horrible bosses and mentors to junior women.

Actually no.
Just the insecure women.
Your comments are clear examples of how women like to tear down other women.

C’mon. Look at the statements in this thread. It’s clear some women will treat other women in the workplace horribly. The best bosses I’ve had have been women, and the worst bosses I’ve had have been women.

But is it really treating someone horribly to not view a woman taking time off from work in a positive way? I’m really not allowed to acknowledge that she likely has a spouse who is used to her doing everything including handling all sick days?

You and some other PPs are attributing it to treating other women horribly and our gender.

I’m not basing it on gender. I think anyone who was a stay at home parent for almost a decade is likely not that interested in working and has a spouse who is used to them doing everything at home. Anecdotally every SAHM I know wants to be at home with children.

No, you actually aren’t allowed to think any of this, and you certainly aren’t allowed to let it influence or dictate your hiring decisions. Two major reasons: 1) you don’t know any if any of your assumptions are true, and 2) it’s absolutely none of your business anyway.

You know how you can *definitively* tell if someone who was a stay at home parent for a decade is interested in working? If they’re sitting in the room with you INTERVIEWING FOR A JOB.

Everyone makes assumptions / inferences about candidates based on what all they have done in the past. It's not just SAHMs. Like someone might question how a fed atty (I am one) will transition to law firm hour expectations. You're naive if you think interviewers are robots.

But I don’t think interviewers are robots. I think the poster I have been responding to is just an insecure b**** who for whatever reason has some personal vendetta against women who are or have ever been SAHMs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An earlier poster said, "I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career."

I have seen this as well. My wife hired 2 SAHMs who wanted to get back in the workforce when their kids hit elementary school, and both were complete disasters. They'd try to be on Teams calls when they were driving their kids around, would lie about being sick on the same day that I saw them hanging out at a farmer's market with their kids, etc. They both did barely enough to not get fired, and both ended up quitting after a year.

The funny thing in retrospect is that during their interviews, both said, "One thing you should know is that my kids come first..."

What wasn't obvious was how literally they were speaking. What they were actually saying was, "I will accept a salary, but will barely do any work."

Sorry, I’m confused. Do you work with/for your wife? Because if not, then no, you actually didn’t “see this” yourself. You heard your wife gossiping about other women at work and the saw them at a farmer’s market (?) that one time!

I think this thread really illustrates how deep the misogyny runs in our society. Any woman for any length of time prioritizes her kids over the capitalist machine should be forever branded as a lazy, unintelligent mooch, I guess?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be arrogant in your interview.

Remember you are essentially a new college grad with no experience and out of date skills.

Don’t mention you have kids because after SAH it’s clear your h has no interest in being involved in the kids lives so they will assume you will take off every time they are sick.

Say you took time to care for a dying aunt.

This. Here’s my bias as a working mom:

1. You don’t really want to work
2. You didn’t value your career
3. You don’t have a spouse who does his share at home
4. Your spouse is now used to you doing everything and all sick days will fall on you
5. You’ll talk about your kid all the time because it’s been your life and you don’t understand other people don’t care about your kids anymore than someone’s pet or vacation

Exhibit A as to how terribly women treat other women.

Yup. I work in a male dominated field and it’s been a breeze getting time off whenever I need even to *gasp* care for children! They also don’t mind me talking about my kids and even talk about their own kids, if you can imagine it.

My boss even let me go part time when I requested it, even though my “excuse” was simply that I wanted more time with my kids.

So advice for the “biased” working mom: get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting like an AH.

Interesting point. I’ve had two phases to my career, both in male-dominated industries. Both have been family-friendly and understanding to moms and dads when childcare needs have arisen or for me when I wanted to scale back to part-time. I think women can be prone to treat other women horribly, and I’ve seen the most obnoxious statements on the issue here on dcum.

Agree. I have seen the same in my workplaces. The female bosses have been horrible bosses and mentors to junior women.

Actually no.
Just the insecure women.
Your comments are clear examples of how women like to tear down other women.

C’mon. Look at the statements in this thread. It’s clear some women will treat other women in the workplace horribly. The best bosses I’ve had have been women, and the worst bosses I’ve had have been women.

But is it really treating someone horribly to not view a woman taking time off from work in a positive way? I’m really not allowed to acknowledge that she likely has a spouse who is used to her doing everything including handling all sick days?

You and some other PPs are attributing it to treating other women horribly and our gender.

I’m not basing it on gender. I think anyone who was a stay at home parent for almost a decade is likely not that interested in working and has a spouse who is used to them doing everything at home. Anecdotally every SAHM I know wants to be at home with children.

Wow, you are so wrong. I am scared to hear your stereotypes about other groups. I hope you have better critical thinking skills in your job than you have displayed here.

I’m so wrong that a woman who stayed home for almost a decade isn’t career focused?

So I can assume that since you’ve never stayed home that you don’t care about your kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be arrogant in your interview.

Remember you are essentially a new college grad with no experience and out of date skills.

Don’t mention you have kids because after SAH it’s clear your h has no interest in being involved in the kids lives so they will assume you will take off every time they are sick.

Say you took time to care for a dying aunt.

This. Here’s my bias as a working mom:

1. You don’t really want to work
2. You didn’t value your career
3. You don’t have a spouse who does his share at home
4. Your spouse is now used to you doing everything and all sick days will fall on you
5. You’ll talk about your kid all the time because it’s been your life and you don’t understand other people don’t care about your kids anymore than someone’s pet or vacation

Exhibit A as to how terribly women treat other women.

Yup. I work in a male dominated field and it’s been a breeze getting time off whenever I need even to *gasp* care for children! They also don’t mind me talking about my kids and even talk about their own kids, if you can imagine it.

My boss even let me go part time when I requested it, even though my “excuse” was simply that I wanted more time with my kids.

So advice for the “biased” working mom: get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting like an AH.

Interesting point. I’ve had two phases to my career, both in male-dominated industries. Both have been family-friendly and understanding to moms and dads when childcare needs have arisen or for me when I wanted to scale back to part-time. I think women can be prone to treat other women horribly, and I’ve seen the most obnoxious statements on the issue here on dcum.

Agree. I have seen the same in my workplaces. The female bosses have been horrible bosses and mentors to junior women.

Actually no.
Just the insecure women.
Your comments are clear examples of how women like to tear down other women.

C’mon. Look at the statements in this thread. It’s clear some women will treat other women in the workplace horribly. The best bosses I’ve had have been women, and the worst bosses I’ve had have been women.

But is it really treating someone horribly to not view a woman taking time off from work in a positive way? I’m really not allowed to acknowledge that she likely has a spouse who is used to her doing everything including handling all sick days?

You and some other PPs are attributing it to treating other women horribly and our gender.

I’m not basing it on gender. I think anyone who was a stay at home parent for almost a decade is likely not that interested in working and has a spouse who is used to them doing everything at home. Anecdotally every SAHM I know wants to be at home with children.

Wow, you are so wrong. I am scared to hear your stereotypes about other groups. I hope you have better critical thinking skills in your job than you have displayed here.

I’m so wrong that a woman who stayed home for almost a decade isn’t career focused?

So I can assume that since you’ve never stayed home that you don’t care about your kids?

You can assume that somebody who moved away from their children for 10 years, doesn’t care about them yes.

Someone who loves supports and spends time with them, no you can’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be arrogant in your interview.

Remember you are essentially a new college grad with no experience and out of date skills.

Don’t mention you have kids because after SAH it’s clear your h has no interest in being involved in the kids lives so they will assume you will take off every time they are sick.

Say you took time to care for a dying aunt.

This. Here’s my bias as a working mom:

1. You don’t really want to work
2. You didn’t value your career
3. You don’t have a spouse who does his share at home
4. Your spouse is now used to you doing everything and all sick days will fall on you
5. You’ll talk about your kid all the time because it’s been your life and you don’t understand other people don’t care about your kids anymore than someone’s pet or vacation

Exhibit A as to how terribly women treat other women.

Yup. I work in a male dominated field and it’s been a breeze getting time off whenever I need even to *gasp* care for children! They also don’t mind me talking about my kids and even talk about their own kids, if you can imagine it.

My boss even let me go part time when I requested it, even though my “excuse” was simply that I wanted more time with my kids.

So advice for the “biased” working mom: get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting like an AH.

Interesting point. I’ve had two phases to my career, both in male-dominated industries. Both have been family-friendly and understanding to moms and dads when childcare needs have arisen or for me when I wanted to scale back to part-time. I think women can be prone to treat other women horribly, and I’ve seen the most obnoxious statements on the issue here on dcum.

Agree. I have seen the same in my workplaces. The female bosses have been horrible bosses and mentors to junior women.

Actually no.
Just the insecure women.
Your comments are clear examples of how women like to tear down other women.

C’mon. Look at the statements in this thread. It’s clear some women will treat other women in the workplace horribly. The best bosses I’ve had have been women, and the worst bosses I’ve had have been women.

But is it really treating someone horribly to not view a woman taking time off from work in a positive way? I’m really not allowed to acknowledge that she likely has a spouse who is used to her doing everything including handling all sick days?

You and some other PPs are attributing it to treating other women horribly and our gender.

I’m not basing it on gender. I think anyone who was a stay at home parent for almost a decade is likely not that interested in working and has a spouse who is used to them doing everything at home. Anecdotally every SAHM I know wants to be at home with children.

No, you actually aren’t allowed to think any of this, and you certainly aren’t allowed to let it influence or dictate your hiring decisions. Two major reasons: 1) you don’t know any if any of your assumptions are true, and 2) it’s absolutely none of your business anyway.

You know how you can *definitively* tell if someone who was a stay at home parent for a decade is interested in working? If they’re sitting in the room with you INTERVIEWING FOR A JOB.

I guess. I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career.

OP kind of proves this point. She thinks other women might be JEALOUS of her for staying home. She thinks staying home is better.

IT DOES NOT MATTER what she or anyone thinks about being a stay at home mom. She is ACTIVELY looking for a job NOW. That indicates she wants to work NOW, even if she didn’t want to work five years ago.

Does the existence of your retirement account mean that you’re not interested in working? After all, you’re saving up money for the explicit purpose of leaving your job! So how devoted could you really be?

But what changed? I just don’t see how a woman who stayed home for many years all of a sudden becomes a person focused on their career.

Regarding retirement, the thinking is that eventually you are physically or mentally unable to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier poster said, "I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career."

I have seen this as well. My wife hired 2 SAHMs who wanted to get back in the workforce when their kids hit elementary school, and both were complete disasters. They'd try to be on Teams calls when they were driving their kids around, would lie about being sick on the same day that I saw them hanging out at a farmer's market with their kids, etc. They both did barely enough to not get fired, and both ended up quitting after a year.

The funny thing in retrospect is that during their interviews, both said, "One thing you should know is that my kids come first..."

What wasn't obvious was how literally they were speaking. What they were actually saying was, "I will accept a salary, but will barely do any work."

Sorry, I’m confused. Do you work with/for your wife? Because if not, then no, you actually didn’t “see this” yourself. You heard your wife gossiping about other women at work and the saw them at a farmer’s market (?) that one time!

I think this thread really illustrates how deep the misogyny runs in our society. Any woman for any length of time prioritizes her kids over the capitalist machine should be forever branded as a lazy, unintelligent mooch, I guess?

This is you projecting. I don’t think any of these things but I do assume they prefer to be at home as opposed to working.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be arrogant in your interview.

Remember you are essentially a new college grad with no experience and out of date skills.

Don’t mention you have kids because after SAH it’s clear your h has no interest in being involved in the kids lives so they will assume you will take off every time they are sick.

Say you took time to care for a dying aunt.

This. Here’s my bias as a working mom:

1. You don’t really want to work
2. You didn’t value your career
3. You don’t have a spouse who does his share at home
4. Your spouse is now used to you doing everything and all sick days will fall on you
5. You’ll talk about your kid all the time because it’s been your life and you don’t understand other people don’t care about your kids anymore than someone’s pet or vacation

Exhibit A as to how terribly women treat other women.

Yup. I work in a male dominated field and it’s been a breeze getting time off whenever I need even to *gasp* care for children! They also don’t mind me talking about my kids and even talk about their own kids, if you can imagine it.

My boss even let me go part time when I requested it, even though my “excuse” was simply that I wanted more time with my kids.

So advice for the “biased” working mom: get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting like an AH.

Interesting point. I’ve had two phases to my career, both in male-dominated industries. Both have been family-friendly and understanding to moms and dads when childcare needs have arisen or for me when I wanted to scale back to part-time. I think women can be prone to treat other women horribly, and I’ve seen the most obnoxious statements on the issue here on dcum.

Agree. I have seen the same in my workplaces. The female bosses have been horrible bosses and mentors to junior women.

Actually no.
Just the insecure women.
Your comments are clear examples of how women like to tear down other women.

C’mon. Look at the statements in this thread. It’s clear some women will treat other women in the workplace horribly. The best bosses I’ve had have been women, and the worst bosses I’ve had have been women.

But is it really treating someone horribly to not view a woman taking time off from work in a positive way? I’m really not allowed to acknowledge that she likely has a spouse who is used to her doing everything including handling all sick days?

You and some other PPs are attributing it to treating other women horribly and our gender.

I’m not basing it on gender. I think anyone who was a stay at home parent for almost a decade is likely not that interested in working and has a spouse who is used to them doing everything at home. Anecdotally every SAHM I know wants to be at home with children.

No, you actually aren’t allowed to think any of this, and you certainly aren’t allowed to let it influence or dictate your hiring decisions. Two major reasons: 1) you don’t know any if any of your assumptions are true, and 2) it’s absolutely none of your business anyway.

You know how you can *definitively* tell if someone who was a stay at home parent for a decade is interested in working? If they’re sitting in the room with you INTERVIEWING FOR A JOB.

I guess. I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career.

OP kind of proves this point. She thinks other women might be JEALOUS of her for staying home. She thinks staying home is better.

IT DOES NOT MATTER what she or anyone thinks about being a stay at home mom. She is ACTIVELY looking for a job NOW. That indicates she wants to work NOW, even if she didn’t want to work five years ago.

Does the existence of your retirement account mean that you’re not interested in working? After all, you’re saving up money for the explicit purpose of leaving your job! So how devoted could you really be?

But what changed? I just don’t see how a woman who stayed home for many years all of a sudden becomes a person focused on their career.

Regarding retirement, the thinking is that eventually you are physically or mentally unable to work.

Because kids grow up. Their needs change. It’s very reasonable for a parent to prioritize being with their kids when the kids are small because they need hands-on supervision every day. By the time the kids are late-elementary or so, that changes. A lot of women look to get back to working at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be arrogant in your interview.

Remember you are essentially a new college grad with no experience and out of date skills.

Don’t mention you have kids because after SAH it’s clear your h has no interest in being involved in the kids lives so they will assume you will take off every time they are sick.

Say you took time to care for a dying aunt.

This. Here’s my bias as a working mom:

1. You don’t really want to work
2. You didn’t value your career
3. You don’t have a spouse who does his share at home
4. Your spouse is now used to you doing everything and all sick days will fall on you
5. You’ll talk about your kid all the time because it’s been your life and you don’t understand other people don’t care about your kids anymore than someone’s pet or vacation

Exhibit A as to how terribly women treat other women.

Yup. I work in a male dominated field and it’s been a breeze getting time off whenever I need even to *gasp* care for children! They also don’t mind me talking about my kids and even talk about their own kids, if you can imagine it.

My boss even let me go part time when I requested it, even though my “excuse” was simply that I wanted more time with my kids.

So advice for the “biased” working mom: get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting like an AH.

Interesting point. I’ve had two phases to my career, both in male-dominated industries. Both have been family-friendly and understanding to moms and dads when childcare needs have arisen or for me when I wanted to scale back to part-time. I think women can be prone to treat other women horribly, and I’ve seen the most obnoxious statements on the issue here on dcum.

Agree. I have seen the same in my workplaces. The female bosses have been horrible bosses and mentors to junior women.

Actually no.
Just the insecure women.
Your comments are clear examples of how women like to tear down other women.

C’mon. Look at the statements in this thread. It’s clear some women will treat other women in the workplace horribly. The best bosses I’ve had have been women, and the worst bosses I’ve had have been women.

But is it really treating someone horribly to not view a woman taking time off from work in a positive way? I’m really not allowed to acknowledge that she likely has a spouse who is used to her doing everything including handling all sick days?

You and some other PPs are attributing it to treating other women horribly and our gender.

I’m not basing it on gender. I think anyone who was a stay at home parent for almost a decade is likely not that interested in working and has a spouse who is used to them doing everything at home. Anecdotally every SAHM I know wants to be at home with children.

No, you actually aren’t allowed to think any of this, and you certainly aren’t allowed to let it influence or dictate your hiring decisions. Two major reasons: 1) you don’t know any if any of your assumptions are true, and 2) it’s absolutely none of your business anyway.

You know how you can *definitively* tell if someone who was a stay at home parent for a decade is interested in working? If they’re sitting in the room with you INTERVIEWING FOR A JOB.

I guess. I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career.

OP kind of proves this point. She thinks other women might be JEALOUS of her for staying home. She thinks staying home is better.

IT DOES NOT MATTER what she or anyone thinks about being a stay at home mom. She is ACTIVELY looking for a job NOW. That indicates she wants to work NOW, even if she didn’t want to work five years ago.

Does the existence of your retirement account mean that you’re not interested in working? After all, you’re saving up money for the explicit purpose of leaving your job! So how devoted could you really be?

But what changed? I just don’t see how a woman who stayed home for many years all of a sudden becomes a person focused on their career.

Regarding retirement, the thinking is that eventually you are physically or mentally unable to work.

What changed? Most likely the kids are older now, you doofus, so now she has the time and energy to focus on her career.

Regarding retirement, most people retire as soon as they are financially able. They actually look forward to it. You MUST know this.

If I was your boss I think I would have to seriously reconsider your employment, because you are painfully stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An earlier poster said, "I’ve known many SAHMs who reluctantly return to work and don’t have any real interest in working. You even see the posts on here of women wanting very part time or WFH jobs. They don’t want to actually have a career."

I have seen this as well. My wife hired 2 SAHMs who wanted to get back in the workforce when their kids hit elementary school, and both were complete disasters. They'd try to be on Teams calls when they were driving their kids around, would lie about being sick on the same day that I saw them hanging out at a farmer's market with their kids, etc. They both did barely enough to not get fired, and both ended up quitting after a year.

The funny thing in retrospect is that during their interviews, both said, "One thing you should know is that my kids come first..."

What wasn't obvious was how literally they were speaking. What they were actually saying was, "I will accept a salary, but will barely do any work."

Sorry, I’m confused. Do you work with/for your wife? Because if not, then no, you actually didn’t “see this” yourself. You heard your wife gossiping about other women at work and the saw them at a farmer’s market (?) that one time!

I think this thread really illustrates how deep the misogyny runs in our society. Any woman for any length of time prioritizes her kids over the capitalist machine should be forever branded as a lazy, unintelligent mooch, I guess?

This is you projecting. I don’t think any of these things but I do assume they prefer to be at home as opposed to working.

Yes, clearly any currently jobless woman who fills out a job application and comes in for an interview is doing so because she prefers to be at home