My DC's Graduation Location was Just Switched to Accommodate the Encampments on Campus...I'm Angry!!

[Anonymous]

Oops, graduation in their amphitheater.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has been under attack for a lot longer. Funny how white-on-white warfare doesn't merit an encampment, but the perceived white-on-POC conflict which is complicated x1000 does.

WE ARE FUNDING UKRAINE AND NOT SIDING WITH THE RUSSIANS.

There are protests against Israeli policies right now because it seems a lot of influential political and advocacy groups are siding with Israel, which is the equivalent of siding with Russia, in terms of people being killed and unfairness of collateral damage.

35K Palestinians killed.
Less than 2K Isaelis killed.

In the entire history of Israel, there have been far, far, more Palestinians and other Arab nationals killed than Israeli citizens.


At some point, you've got to realize that you're on the wrong side of history. Cold hard math, PP. Math doesn't lie.

That is so stupid I don't have the words to accurately describe it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry that genocide has dampened your celebrations. That sounds hard.

It is not a genocide.

Says you, but I'll bite. Just substitute genocide with mass murder, pogroms, annihilation, elimination, decimation, butchery, slaughter, eradication, anything but genocide right PP

All of those words have meanings. Some may apply to this situation, but most do not.

Language matters. You do yourself no favors by just throwing out provocative terms to rile others up. It undercuts any sliver of credibility you might have left.

[Anonymous]

Fortunately UMD didn't have these issues with graduation. GO TERPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fortunately UMD didn't have these issues with graduation. GO TERPS

99 percent of all colleges and universities did not move or alter their graduation ceremonies in deference to protesters. Swarthmore is being very precious here. Future applicants should be aware of what kind of school Swarthmore truly is and proceed accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Swarthmore has a long tradition of peaceful protest. Moving the graduation to allow the protests to continue is better than canceling graduation the way other institutions did.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, but, as others have pointed out, this is what you get for sending your DC to a school like Swathmore. Other parents should take note.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

The same way students helped end the Vietnam war with protests and helped South Africa end apartheid. Citizens of Israel are also protesting with much bigger crowds against Netanyahu. Protests have always been a way to, well, protest against something. Nothing new.

Sure, they're protesting against . . . wait for it . . . their own government. The Swarthmore (and other US college) protestors are protesting against the Israeli government, which cares not at all, or that their university's endowment has investments that relate in some way to Israel. It's complete nonsense.

I'm a liberal, and the fuzzy-headed logic you used annoys me almost as much as the far right wing. You (and the protestors) make us all look bad, and undermine what are valid criticisms of US policy because it's so easy to dismiss you as an ineffective doofus.

Would you have said the same about the protests for divestment in South Africa?
In so far as billions of our tax monies are being used to support the mass slaughter Palestinian children, I support the college protestors. Yes, there are some protestors out there who are stupidly, ignorantly, parading Hamas flags, etc., etc., but unlike you, I can appreciate the efforts of young adults here.
As for the moving of the graduation. I empathize, OP. I graduated from Swarthmore in the mid-90s when we still had graduation in the amphitheater. I think of the families who have flown in to watch their children graduate on what truly is an exceptionally beautiful campus. I'm sorry. It would have been gracious of the protestors to agree not to protest during graduation exercises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Swarthmore has a long tradition of peaceful protest. Moving the graduation to allow the protests to continue is better than canceling graduation the way other institutions did.

If the protest is peaceful, why did they move the graduation?

I don’t know much about the Swarthmore protest, but if there is really no confrontation then they should have just moved forward as usual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

The same way students helped end the Vietnam war with protests and helped South Africa end apartheid. Citizens of Israel are also protesting with much bigger crowds against Netanyahu. Protests have always been a way to, well, protest against something. Nothing new.

Sure, they're protesting against . . . wait for it . . . their own government. The Swarthmore (and other US college) protestors are protesting against the Israeli government, which cares not at all, or that their university's endowment has investments that relate in some way to Israel. It's complete nonsense.

I'm a liberal, and the fuzzy-headed logic you used annoys me almost as much as the far right wing. You (and the protestors) make us all look bad, and undermine what are valid criticisms of US policy because it's so easy to dismiss you as an ineffective doofus.

Would you have said the same about the protests for divestment in South Africa?
In so far as billions of our tax monies are being used to support the mass slaughter Palestinian children, I support the college protestors. Yes, there are some protestors out there who are stupidly, ignorantly, parading Hamas flags, etc., etc., but unlike you, I can appreciate the efforts of young adults here.
As for the moving of the graduation. I empathize, OP. I graduated from Swarthmore in the mid-90s when we still had graduation in the amphitheater. I think of the families who have flown in to watch their children graduate on what truly is an exceptionally beautiful campus. I'm sorry. It would have been gracious of the protestors to agree not to protest during graduation exercises.

Absolutely.

[Anonymous]

They should have the police clear out the encampment and arrest the protesters for trespassing, preferably in time to clean up their disgusting mess before graduation *on campus*.

If they want to show their support for terrorists, they can fly to the middle east and enlist in Hamas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

The same way students helped end the Vietnam war with protests and helped South Africa end apartheid. Citizens of Israel are also protesting with much bigger crowds against Netanyahu. Protests have always been a way to, well, protest against something. Nothing new.

Sure, they're protesting against . . . wait for it . . . their own government. The Swarthmore (and other US college) protestors are protesting against the Israeli government, which cares not at all, or that their university's endowment has investments that relate in some way to Israel. It's complete nonsense.

I'm a liberal, and the fuzzy-headed logic you used annoys me almost as much as the far right wing. You (and the protestors) make us all look bad, and undermine what are valid criticisms of US policy because it's so easy to dismiss you as an ineffective doofus.

Would you have said the same about the protests for divestment in South Africa?
In so far as billions of our tax monies are being used to support the mass slaughter Palestinian children, I support the college protestors. Yes, there are some protestors out there who are stupidly, ignorantly, parading Hamas flags, etc., etc., but unlike you, I can appreciate the efforts of young adults here.
As for the moving of the graduation. I empathize, OP. I graduated from Swarthmore in the mid-90s when we still had graduation in the amphitheater. I think of the families who have flown in to watch their children graduate on what truly is an exceptionally beautiful campus. I'm sorry. It would have been gracious of the protestors to agree not to protest during graduation exercises.

Absolutely.

I guess some people are comfortable admitting that they stand on the wrong side of history. Ironically, you may have been one of the many Americans who agreed with US policies turning Jews away during the Holocaust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

The same way students helped end the Vietnam war with protests and helped South Africa end apartheid. Citizens of Israel are also protesting with much bigger crowds against Netanyahu. Protests have always been a way to, well, protest against something. Nothing new.

Sure, they're protesting against . . . wait for it . . . their own government. The Swarthmore (and other US college) protestors are protesting against the Israeli government, which cares not at all, or that their university's endowment has investments that relate in some way to Israel. It's complete nonsense.

I'm a liberal, and the fuzzy-headed logic you used annoys me almost as much as the far right wing. You (and the protestors) make us all look bad, and undermine what are valid criticisms of US policy because it's so easy to dismiss you as an ineffective doofus.

Would you have said the same about the protests for divestment in South Africa?
In so far as billions of our tax monies are being used to support the mass slaughter Palestinian children, I support the college protestors. Yes, there are some protestors out there who are stupidly, ignorantly, parading Hamas flags, etc., etc., but unlike you, I can appreciate the efforts of young adults here.
As for the moving of the graduation. I empathize, OP. I graduated from Swarthmore in the mid-90s when we still had graduation in the amphitheater. I think of the families who have flown in to watch their children graduate on what truly is an exceptionally beautiful campus. I'm sorry. It would have been gracious of the protestors to agree not to protest during graduation exercises.

Absolutely.

I guess some people are comfortable admitting that they stand on the wrong side of history. Ironically, you may have been one of the many Americans who agreed with US policies turning Jews away during the Holocaust.

Oh, I see. You equating thinking that the protests are performative and pointless with supporting the things they are protesting against? You are incapable of making that very significant distinction in your mind?

Or perhaps is it you really can't argue with the statement that that the protests are performative and pointless, and so have to divert the discussion?

[Anonymous]

I would be angry too. Encampments are now the new normal, it seems.

It's like my young DD said, it seems like common sense to prohibit encampments because everyday people should be allowed to carry on their lives without having to move around encampments in parks/sidewalk areas that are designed to be used and enjoyed by everyone during daytime hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swarthmore has a long tradition of peaceful protest. Moving the graduation to allow the protests to continue is better than canceling graduation the way other institutions did.

If the protest is peaceful, why did they move the graduation?

I don’t know much about the Swarthmore protest, but if there is really no confrontation then they should have just moved forward as usual.

Because the PR optics of having thousands of visitors realize that a once prestigious school has turned into a daycare for spoiled, dirty children hurts fundraising.