My DC's Graduation Location was Just Switched to Accommodate the Encampments on Campus...I'm Angry!!

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will be very affected. He NEEDS the young vote. That is why he tried so hard on the student loan forgiveness. Young liberals will not vote for Trump. But his stance toward Israel means many won’t vote for him either. This is problematic and the kids in the encampments know it. They are getting a lot of press.

Well they are idiots because if Trump gets in office he’s not going to be more supportive of Palestinians than Biden.

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1.That is disappointing, OP. The Swarthmore campus is so beautiful!

2. STOP IT with the snowflake pandemic whining. It's getting old and you lose credibility every time you use it. Millions died. You can't whine about your kid missing out on extra luxury stuff, like graduations and parties.

3. Congratulations to your child! They are clearly intelligent and highly capable.

4. I have every sympathy for Palestinians being mass murdered right now, with newborns and their mothers starving in the streets, young orphans amputated of their limbs, rotting corpses under the rubble of their homes, and no future at all for any of them, dead or alive, under the oppression of the Israeli fundamentalist and racist right-wing government and voting block. At least YOUR child has a future. May he or she use it to promote peace around the world.

And yet when anyone points out that Trump involved us in ZERO wars during his presidency, that means nothing to you and you’ll continue to vote for endless wars

Yeah he saved all his violence and crimes for his fellow citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:Libs gonna lib

This is all that needs to be said.

-Class of ‘97

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

We are now all aware of the situation in Gaza. I bet you are one of those people who wouldn’t know what is going on until it inconveniences you personally.

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Swat alum here and it pisses me off, too. I mean, making everybody go all the way to Philly? I can't imagine the hassle for all the families coming from out of town. Graduation was in the amphitheater for generations until just a very few years ago and I'm not convinced by arguments that that's not feasible. My sympathies to your graduating DC and the family!

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

We are now all aware of the situation in Gaza. I bet you are one of those people who wouldn’t know what is going on until I it inconveniences you personally.

Are you equally distressed about the actual genocide occurring in Dafur? Or do you need to be personally inconvenienced first?

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Anonymous wrote:Libs gonna lib

This is all that needs to be said.

-Class of ‘97

Ha fellow Swat 97 grad here, our Facebook page is all over this issue!

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

We are now all aware of the situation in Gaza. I bet you are one of those people who wouldn’t know what is going on until it inconveniences you personally.

No, but I don't understand how these protests are going to change anything meaningful. I don't agree with the way Israel is doing things, but these encampments are also turning into anti-jew camps. Some people are there for the right reason and some are there for the wrong reason. I would never participate in them because I wouldn't want to hurt the Jews on campus.

And I still can't understand how they are helping Palestinians.

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Toss out the campers.

Have the graduation on campus for students and families.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

We are now all aware of the situation in Gaza. I bet you are one of those people who wouldn’t know what is going on until it inconveniences you personally.

Jewish people are protesting on campus and in cities across the country and the world, saying "not in our name."

- a Jewish person who has attended and whose families has participated in protests

No, but I don't understand how these protests are going to change anything meaningful. I don't agree with the way Israel is doing things, but these encampments are also turning into anti-jew camps. Some people are there for the right reason and some are there for the wrong reason. I would never participate in them because I wouldn't want to hurt the Jews on campus.

And I still can't understand how they are helping Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has been under attack for a lot longer. Funny how white-on-white warfare doesn't merit an encampment, but the perceived white-on-POC conflict which is complicated x1000 does.

WE ARE FUNDING UKRAINE AND NOT SIDING WITH THE RUSSIANS.

There are protests against Israeli policies right now because it seems a lot of influential political and advocacy groups are siding with Israel, which is the equivalent of siding with Russia, in terms of people being killed and unfairness of collateral damage.

35K Palestinians killed.
Less than 2K Isaelis killed.

In the entire history of Israel, there have been far, far, more Palestinians and other Arab nationals killed than Israeli citizens.


At some point, you've got to realize that you're on the wrong side of history. Cold hard math, PP. Math doesn't lie.

While the Israeli government's response may be over the top, I still believe in the right of Israel to exist and that there has to be a 2-state solution.

In addition years ago I heard a story about a UN cartographer sent to the Middle East to work on maps with Israelis and Palestinians. His verdict when he got back, "They're both a$$holes." That has been my lifelong view of the situation and it won't change.

These Palestinian-American men who are in charge of American advocacy groups come across as complete a$$holes. When asked whether they are to blame for possible damage to Biden's campaign, they assert that if it occurs it will be all Biden's fault, not their's! Seriously!?!?! What effing entitlement. As I said, they are all a$$holes. If you choose to be that naive, PP, it's on you.

Israel over the top. The understatement of the year. The lack of empathy is utterly astounding.

This isn’t my first rodeo with self-righteous virtue signallers with a selective sense of fairness and a flair for posturing like you. Given that I originally referenced Ukraine, lack of empathy is not an issue. I’m just not desperate for moral certitude in a world of ambiguity.

Is your empathy reserved for white people then?

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has been under attack for a lot longer. Funny how white-on-white warfare doesn't merit an encampment, but the perceived white-on-POC conflict which is complicated x1000 does.

+1! This is so true. I have a lot more sympathy for Ukrainians -- they certainly did not start the conflict. Unlike the Palestinians...

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry that genocide has dampened your celebrations. That sounds hard.

It is not a genocide.

Says you, but I'll bite. Just substitute genocide with mass murder, pogroms, annihilation, elimination, decimation, butchery, slaughter, eradication, anything but genocide right PP

I know what a genocide is because my ancestors were victims. This is not a genocide. Your other descriptive words are accurate, but genocide is the wrong term here.

Keep defending war criminals.

Your logic that mass killing is only wrong when it’s against people who share your ethnicity is shameful. Now that the Palestinians have experienced a genocide, by your logic they have the moral right to go out and commit against another group.

Don’t you see how sick that is?

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Anonymous wrote:Swat alum here and it pisses me off, too. I mean, making everybody go all the way to Philly? I can't imagine the hassle for all the families coming from out of town. Graduation was in the amphitheater for generations until just a very few years ago and I'm not convinced by arguments that that's not feasible. My sympathies to your graduating DC and the family!

I know, it sounds super inconvenient and annoying!

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Sorry OP. Swarthmore graduation in their /walk thru the Rose Garden was a lovely graduation venue when my DS graduated a few years ago. My DH and I discussed this last night imagining parents walking past the encampments. After paying $$$ to attend, there would have been low tolerance for hecklers. The choice to go to downtown Phila is not an improvement. I do wonder who are these people inhabiting the encampments? Swarthmore students are guaranteed housing for 4 years and undergraduates should be done with finals at this point and moved out.