My DC's Graduation Location was Just Switched to Accommodate the Encampments on Campus...I'm Angry!!

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has been under attack for a lot longer. Funny how white-on-white warfare doesn't merit an encampment, but the perceived white-on-POC conflict which is complicated x1000 does.

+1, and why do they not protest against the murderer in Iran?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Hamas is to blame for that.

Israel bombs where it pleases using Hamas as an excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are pro-Israeli posters equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas? The last vote in Gaza was in 2005. How did Palestinians bring this upon themselves? Do the math. Palestinian children are not Hamas. Israeli should not be killing thousands of children in their hunt for Hamas. And any decent human being should agree that it is immoral to support the slaughter of kids no matter how badly the adults in charge behave.

Any decent human being would not use children as human shields and refuse to surrender and return hostages when their people are clearly at the breaking point.

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Protesting at a college graduation is such a lost cause. Sounds like a union of protestors trying to get their 10 min of fame. Punishing the students who worked their ass off for 4 years with this disruption is not going to bring peace to the Middle East.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Hamas is to blame for that.

Israel bombs where it pleases using Hamas as an excuse.

Hamas uses its own people as human shields by hiding like cowards among civilians. Do continue defending terrorists though.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Protesting at a college graduation is such a lost cause. Sounds like a union of protestors trying to get their 10 min of fame. Punishing the students who worked their ass off for 4 years with this disruption is not going to bring peace to the Middle East.

+1
It’s virtue signaling at its very worst.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Well, maybe Gazans shouldn't let themselves be ruled by terrorists and openly supporting terrorists and refusing to give up hostages, ya know? They brought it upon themselves, 100%, and they could end this war immediately by surrendering entirely to Israel and handing over the hostages and their leaderships for proper trial and punishment for October 7.

And if a bunch of spoiled progressive college kids want to protest to champion stone age fundamentalist terrorists who slaughtered innocent people and with some of the most brutal anti-gay, anti women regimes in this world, they're just showing the whole world what idiots they are with their daft ideologies. Which is a good thing, FYI.

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Well said. It’s truly amazing that anyone who considers themselves “smart” would be defending terrorists, but that is where we are right now. Just revolting.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

That does suck, but please tell me (I"m not OP) how these encampments are helping the cause.

The same way students helped end the Vietnam war with protests and helped South Africa end apartheid. Citizens of Israel are also protesting with much bigger crowds against Netanyahu. Protests have always been a way to, well, protest against something. Nothing new.

Sure, they're protesting against . . . wait for it . . . their own government. The Swarthmore (and other US college) protestors are protesting against the Israeli government, which cares not at all, or that their university's endowment has investments that relate in some way to Israel. It's complete nonsense.

I'm a liberal, and the fuzzy-headed logic you used annoys me almost as much as the far right wing. You (and the protestors) make us all look bad, and undermine what are valid criticisms of US policy because it's so easy to dismiss you as an ineffective doofus.

Would you have said the same about the protests for divestment in South Africa?
In so far as billions of our tax monies are being used to support the mass slaughter Palestinian children, I support the college protestors. Yes, there are some protestors out there who are stupidly, ignorantly, parading Hamas flags, etc., etc., but unlike you, I can appreciate the efforts of young adults here.
As for the moving of the graduation. I empathize, OP. I graduated from Swarthmore in the mid-90s when we still had graduation in the amphitheater. I think of the families who have flown in to watch their children graduate on what truly is an exceptionally beautiful campus. I'm sorry. It would have been gracious of the protestors to agree not to protest during graduation exercises.

Absolutely.

I guess some people are comfortable admitting that they stand on the wrong side of history. Ironically, you may have been one of the many Americans who agreed with US policies turning Jews away during the Holocaust.

Oh, I see. You equating thinking that the protests are performative and pointless with supporting the things they are protesting against? You are incapable of making that very significant distinction in your mind?

Or perhaps is it you really can't argue with the statement that that the protests are performative and pointless, and so have to divert the discussion?

Protests are not performative and pointless, otherwise hardline regimes like those you find in Iran and China wouldn't crack down on protestors. Any serious student of history understands that protests are powerful for myriad reasons. It's hard to think of significant shifts in modern history that weren't accompanied by protest - civil rights, independence movements, suffrage, Vietnam...

Good lord. No, of course not all protests are performative and pointless. Quite the red herring you have thrown up there. But these protests, which are not disrupting the Israeli government or society, and not even disrupting the US government function are the definition of performative and pointless.

Let's try a little thought experiment - do you think protests and encampments at a French or English university demanding the university divest itself of all investment in the US because of its treatment of African Americans would make one iota of difference? Of course not.

Surely a "serious student of history" such as yourself (snort) can see that.

They are most certainly eroding the support for Israel here within the US during an election year. Think a little harder.

Most people are smart enough to know the protesters, despite their noise, are a pathetic, petulant, manipulated minority participating in their generation’s equivalent to streaking.

If that's what you have to tell yourself to justify your support of genocide then so be it. But most of the world disagrees with you.

You don’t get to change the definition of “genocide” just because you’re a grumpy underachiever.

Neither do you dear. The world agrees that Israel is committing genocide. ICT agees and so does the UN. But keep excusing them please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Well, maybe Gazans shouldn't let themselves be ruled by terrorists and openly supporting terrorists and refusing to give up hostages, ya know? They brought it upon themselves, 100%, and they could end this war immediately by surrendering entirely to Israel and handing over the hostages and their leaderships for proper trial and punishment for October 7.

And if a bunch of spoiled progressive college kids want to protest to champion stone age fundamentalist terrorists who slaughtered innocent people and with some of the most brutal anti-gay, anti women regimes in this world, they're just showing the whole world what idiots they are with their daft ideologies. Which is a good thing, FYI.

+100
Well said. It’s truly amazing that anyone who considers themselves “smart” would be defending terrorists, but that is where we are right now. Just revolting.

Yeah please continue to dehumanize thousands of innocent children who died needlessly. That’s really doing a lot for Israel’s image as the victim in all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are pro-Israeli posters equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas? The last vote in Gaza was in 2005. How did Palestinians bring this upon themselves? Do the math. Palestinian children are not Hamas. Israeli should not be killing thousands of children in their hunt for Hamas. And any decent human being should agree that it is immoral to support the slaughter of kids no matter how badly the adults in charge behave.

Yes - so why are you not demanding Hamas surrender, release any hostages that still happen to be alive, and safeguard the Palestinian people? Why is Hamas using innocent children as human shields and why aren’t you outraged about that?

This war could have been over long ago had Hamas not been such cowards and decided to use their own population as shields.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Well, maybe Gazans shouldn't let themselves be ruled by terrorists and openly supporting terrorists and refusing to give up hostages, ya know? They brought it upon themselves, 100%, and they could end this war immediately by surrendering entirely to Israel and handing over the hostages and their leaderships for proper trial and punishment for October 7.

And if a bunch of spoiled progressive college kids want to protest to champion stone age fundamentalist terrorists who slaughtered innocent people and with some of the most brutal anti-gay, anti women regimes in this world, they're just showing the whole world what idiots they are with their daft ideologies. Which is a good thing, FYI.

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Well said. It’s truly amazing that anyone who considers themselves “smart” would be defending terrorists, but that is where we are right now. Just revolting.

Yeah please continue to dehumanize thousands of innocent children who died needlessly. That’s really doing a lot for Israel’s image as the victim in all of this.

Take your misplaced outraged straight to Hamas. Funny how you can’t put two and two together and instead continue to defend terrorists.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Well, maybe Gazans shouldn't let themselves be ruled by terrorists and openly supporting terrorists and refusing to give up hostages, ya know? They brought it upon themselves, 100%, and they could end this war immediately by surrendering entirely to Israel and handing over the hostages and their leaderships for proper trial and punishment for October 7.

And if a bunch of spoiled progressive college kids want to protest to champion stone age fundamentalist terrorists who slaughtered innocent people and with some of the most brutal anti-gay, anti women regimes in this world, they're just showing the whole world what idiots they are with their daft ideologies. Which is a good thing, FYI.

Right, and maybe the black South Africans shouldn't have allowed themselves to be ruled by a white minority. They brought their suffering upon themselves.

Enslaved blacks never had a chance to vote. Gazans did.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are pro-Israeli posters equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas? The last vote in Gaza was in 2005. How did Palestinians bring this upon themselves? Do the math. Palestinian children are not Hamas. Israeli should not be killing thousands of children in their hunt for Hamas. And any decent human being should agree that it is immoral to support the slaughter of kids no matter how badly the adults in charge behave.

Any decent human being would not use children as human shields and refuse to surrender and return hostages when their people are clearly at the breaking point.

Any decant human being would not bomb hospital after hospital and starve thousands of innocent people under the guise and pretense that they are bombing Hamas. Disgusting!

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that does suck, but so does Gaza not having any universities anymore and having thousands of students killed.

Well, maybe Gazans shouldn't let themselves be ruled by terrorists and openly supporting terrorists and refusing to give up hostages, ya know? They brought it upon themselves, 100%, and they could end this war immediately by surrendering entirely to Israel and handing over the hostages and their leaderships for proper trial and punishment for October 7.

And if a bunch of spoiled progressive college kids want to protest to champion stone age fundamentalist terrorists who slaughtered innocent people and with some of the most brutal anti-gay, anti women regimes in this world, they're just showing the whole world what idiots they are with their daft ideologies. Which is a good thing, FYI.

Right, and maybe the black South Africans shouldn't have allowed themselves to be ruled by a white minority. They brought their suffering upon themselves.

Enslaved blacks never had a chance to vote. Gazans did.

When did they last have the elections?