who else is just totally numb now?

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All of this is about a power struggle between two groups, GOP and DNC. They will use you, lie to you, manipulate you. They take a kernal of truth wrap it around a narrative to manipulate you. You are naturally becoming tired to it. Don’t worry though, they will generate a new story to get you to do what they want. Maybe it will be terrorism. Or a new variant of Covid.

This is OP - and honestly, no. It's the Republicans who are exhausting the f out of me. Dems are fine. Not always great at communicating, sometimes not doing just what I want, blah blah. But no, it's the Republicans. They have wrung me dry.

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Anonymous wrote:I can feel it setting in.

I started thinking about this yesterday, when I realized there had barely been any reaction to Florida's six week abortion ban going into effect - and I live in Florida. The stupid gd Alito flag thing. The polls showing this race so dismally close that I can't even believe it - while young leftists are trying to make sure Trump wins. THAT GUY.

I feel like the thing that people have been warning about is finally happening to me - I'm starting to tune out. I'm just so numb now.

Are you feeling that way? How are you overcoming it? I feel like now is the time we need to be most fired up - and I am just so tired. It's been 10 years of this now.

If you managed to make it through 4 years of Trump, 1/6 and the craziness since, then being numb now, as the potential light is at the end of the tunnel seems short-sighted. Work hard to get the Demcorats in control so sanity can come back to the surface. It only happens if the GOP has a complete and total Watergate style reckoning.

This is OP - and thank you, this is what I need to hear.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

[Anonymous]

Of course expulsions are at record numbers.

That's because you have been letting them in, in the first place.

Is this not obvious? I'm really getting tired of hearing this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
There’s not one of Trumps policy stances that doesn’t have majority support. He wants to do what most people want to happen. Of course, the special interests that have run DC to make sure the people never get their way can’t stand it.

Most people support abortions/Roe. Trump doesn't.
Most people support limits on gun ownership. Trump doesn't.
Most people like having a functional federal government. Trump doesn't.
Most people support Ukraine. Trump doesn't.
Most people think Russia is our enemy. Trump doesn't.
Most people think billionaires do not pay enough in taxes. Trump doesn't.

I could go on, but the PP is simply wrong in the assertion that Trump wants to do what "most people" want to happen. Just plain wrong.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

Do you have cites for these claims?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course expulsions are at record numbers.

That's because you have been letting them in, in the first place.

Is this not obvious? I'm really getting tired of hearing this.

That’s a logical fallacy, actually. Spin, if you will.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

This. And it cannot be said enough. Stop letting the actual fake news set the agenda for conversation and framing.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course expulsions are at record numbers.

That's because you have been letting them in, in the first place.

Is this not obvious? I'm really getting tired of hearing this.

That’s a logical fallacy, actually. Spin, if you will.

No, it's a logical fact.

Use your upper three inches. You have it for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

You should read the post you’re replying to before regurgitating right wing propaganda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

So now Reuters is lying to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

You should read the post you’re replying to before regurgitating right wing propaganda.

I read it. I have seen the data. I have heard Biden's rhetoric.
I know the facts.

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that the border crisis we have experienced for THREE AND A HALF years is of Biden's making.
Between issuing EO's overturning everything that WAS working, telling migrants he hoped they would surge the border, instructing border agents NOT to deport migrants, and then flying in migrants from south of our border....... HE HAS CAUSED THE CRISIS.

He could fix it with another EO. But, he won't because then he would have to admit that he could have prevented it all along.
And, bringing in millions is part of his plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

So now Reuters is lying to you?

Good grief. Title 42 is simply ONE MEASURE that he eliminated.

And, this statement is a joke:

"After Title 42 ends, all migrants will be subject to standard immigration processing known as Title 8.
Under Title 8, migrants who express fear of returning to their home countries can request asylum but now - under the new rule - most will not qualify.
The new asylum regulation bars anyone who has passed through another country without seeking refuge there first or who has failed to access legal pathways to enter the United States."

They have NOT enforced this rule AT ALL. Ask any border agent. They are letting in anyone who shows up. Even people on the terrorist watch list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
All of this is about a power struggle between two groups, GOP and DNC. They will use you, lie to you, manipulate you. They take a kernal of truth wrap it around a narrative to manipulate you. You are naturally becoming tired to it. Don’t worry though, they will generate a new story to get you to do what they want. Maybe it will be terrorism. Or a new variant of Covid.

This is OP - and honestly, no. It's the Republicans who are exhausting the f out of me. Dems are fine. Not always great at communicating, sometimes not doing just what I want, blah blah. But no, it's the Republicans. They have wrung me dry.

OP. I know you know this and it's good you came here to hopefully get a re-boost and call out "both sides" BS. Just remember your exhaustion is by design. Flood the zone crap. I hope you feel better and what you are feeling is totally normal but we can't give up now. Please find a group to volunteer with because we all need to do more than vote. Even if it just means giving $5 a month to a campaign, that is doing something.

You may want to subscribe to Simone Rosenberg's substack Hopium Chronicles. Lots of positive reminders how good Dems and Biden are doing and how a lot of the polls are being misinterpreted (not wrong, it's the analysis), and that I'd rather be a Dem than an R.
https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/