Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?

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Anonymous wrote:Her GPA was too low for UVA. I assume she’s not in the top 5%.

I would think those reaches are truly reaches.

I don’t think the GPA is the issue. My guess is that the essay and ECs didn’t showcase her values, traits and leadership. The gpa and SAT will get her through the first hoop easily. The next hoop is the essay & ECs and finally fit.

As another poster said, she’ll have plenty of options.

GPA would be an issue at most FCPS high schools--4.4+ seems to be where the line is drawn on Naviance at our 'middle of the road' high school. Only a small handful of kids accepted with GPAs under that and hundreds rejected. High SATs don't seem to make that much of a difference under that GPA.

My son with a 4.3, 1580 GPA got in EA last year. I agree that essays, ECs, and recommendations likely helped him a great deal. He's now an Echols Scholar there.

Was he in FCPS?

My kid is in LCPS but there is a clear cut off of about 4.4 on the GPA To have a chance. LCPS also weights honors .5 and AP/DE 1.0 so a 4.3 is pretty low all things considered. My DS attends and had a 4.6 and was not Echols so I assume your DS 4.3 was not in FCPS/LCPS.

APS. Echols is not based on GPA though - it's based on essays, ECs, etc. So my point about that was there was something in those that caught UVA's eye.

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Anonymous wrote:With grade inflation they really need to start looking at scores more heavily.

Ivies are leaning that way. Dartmouth and Yale both did a 5-year study and show standardized test scores are the most indicative of success. They followed TO and those that submitted high scores too. The TO were more likely to be on grade probation and grade probation has increased a lot since TO.

Both Yale and Dartmouth will be test optional for the 2024-2025 admissions cycle.

Happy New Year.

Any unhooked kids applying test optional to top schools will be automatically rejected as it will be assumed that they have low scores.

Not true for REA but ok…
You again??? Put this to rest.

Yeah, also not true for ED.

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Anonymous wrote:Her GPA was too low for UVA. I assume she’s not in the top 5%.

I would think those reaches are truly reaches.

I don’t think the GPA is the issue. My guess is that the essay and ECs didn’t showcase her values, traits and leadership. The gpa and SAT will get her through the first hoop easily. The next hoop is the essay & ECs and finally fit.

As another poster said, she’ll have plenty of options.

GPA would be an issue at most FCPS high schools--4.4+ seems to be where the line is drawn on Naviance at our 'middle of the road' high school. Only a small handful of kids accepted with GPAs under that and hundreds rejected. High SATs don't seem to make that much of a difference under that GPA.

My son with a 4.3, 1580 GPA got in EA last year. I agree that essays, ECs, and recommendations likely helped him a great deal. He's now an Echols Scholar there.

Yes. I would hope it's not a strict gpa cutoff at 4.4+ like so many posters claim. Also, if you go to a VA public HS pretty much most of the top half of the school is applying there too---so that makes it much more difficult.

If you look at the Ivies their AVERAGE GPA of admits is 3.9 gpa. Think about that. Brown's weighted average was 4.3gpa. I think VA publics are known for serious grade inflation, but I don't think UVA cares if there is a cutoff. When the colleges with 3-4% acceptance rates have a lower gpa average than UVA--that's something to think about.

Yeah Ivies cite lower admitted GPAs. It’s a function of majority of uva students from Va publics with grade inflation, re-takes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:last year my DD got into UVA A&S school in the RD round with a 4.2 GPA. She decided to wait till RD to include his senior year quarter grades and it paid off. She had perfect SAT and very good EC's with some national awards. She was also a NMSF with good essays.

Didn’t work for my kid with 4.3, 1580, good ECs last year. Wanted to include senior grades (all As) to bolster his app but still didn’t get into UVA.

this is the craziest post in the entire thread. You bang out a 1580 and you’re doing a dance with your parents in the kitchen. Not sure what a 4.3 translates too, but i’m sure it’s a few A-‘s at worst. Ivies maybe should be a reach here, but this kid should be a slam dunk for a school the caliber / reputation of UVa

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Which UVa was DC applying to ? Architecture, A&S, Engineering, or Nursing ?

Each of those schools has its own applicant pool and its own number of 1st year openings. A&S is larger than the others - each of the others has a relatively small number of 1st year slots. Engineering 1st year slots total around 500-600, and Architecture is smaller than that.

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Another option is to apply to UVa College at Wise. If DC does well with courses at Wise during 1st year, then they can transfer to Charlottesville.

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Anonymous wrote:last year my DD got into UVA A&S school in the RD round with a 4.2 GPA. She decided to wait till RD to include his senior year quarter grades and it paid off. She had perfect SAT and very good EC's with some national awards. She was also a NMSF with good essays.

Didn’t work for my kid with 4.3, 1580, good ECs last year. Wanted to include senior grades (all As) to bolster his app but still didn’t get into UVA.

this is the craziest post in the entire thread. You bang out a 1580 and you’re doing a dance with your parents in the kitchen. Not sure what a 4.3 translates too, but i’m sure it’s a few A-‘s at worst. Ivies maybe should be a reach here, but this kid should be a slam dunk for a school the caliber / reputation of UVa

The problem is that there are more kids like this than available slots.

A lot more.

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Anonymous wrote:last year my DD got into UVA A&S school in the RD round with a 4.2 GPA. She decided to wait till RD to include his senior year quarter grades and it paid off. She had perfect SAT and very good EC's with some national awards. She was also a NMSF with good essays.

Didn’t work for my kid with 4.3, 1580, good ECs last year. Wanted to include senior grades (all As) to bolster his app but still didn’t get into UVA.

in state? hmm

this is the craziest post in the entire thread. You bang out a 1580 and you’re doing a dance with your parents in the kitchen. Not sure what a 4.3 translates too, but i’m sure it’s a few A-‘s at worst. Ivies maybe should be a reach here, but this kid should be a slam dunk for a school the caliber / reputation of UVa

The problem is that there are more kids like this than available slots.

A lot more.

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Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I say this with the kindest of intentions, but you might want to rethink "keeping her hopes up." It is far better to be clear-eyed and realistic about where things may be headed, and affirm that you think she is smart and wonderful and will thrive wherever she lands.

My DD heard from a safety first and deliberately spent hours pouring over the website and YouTube videos and social media after she got accepted so that she would fall in love with it and feel excited about it, just in case nothing else worked out. And you know what, she did! She ended up getting into one of her top choices, but it really kept her spirits up while she waited.

NP and I could not agree more with this. My kid got rejected from his ED school (which was not a surprise, but of course it was still a disappointment), and we’ve really been focusing on the fact that he has some very attractive options from EA, regardless of what happens with the rest of his applications. He is particularly excited about getting top merit from one of the EA schools, something that won’t happen with his remaining schools, and is focusing on how great it would be to have that money saved for grad school.

Obviously he will still be bummed if he doesn’t get into his remaining top choices (a distinct possibility!), but he is not pinning all of his hopes on those decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:last year my DD got into UVA A&S school in the RD round with a 4.2 GPA. She decided to wait till RD to include his senior year quarter grades and it paid off. She had perfect SAT and very good EC's with some national awards. She was also a NMSF with good essays.

Didn’t work for my kid with 4.3, 1580, good ECs last year. Wanted to include senior grades (all As) to bolster his app but still didn’t get into UVA.

this is the craziest post in the entire thread. You bang out a 1580 and you’re doing a dance with your parents in the kitchen. Not sure what a 4.3 translates too, but i’m sure it’s a few A-‘s at worst. Ivies maybe should be a reach here, but this kid should be a slam dunk for a school the caliber / reputation of UVa

This kind of kid should have applied more widely to other top 30 type schools.

Would definitely have gotten in with enough tailoring of essays and narrative.

Wash U?

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but this kid should be a slam dunk for a school the caliber / reputation of UVa

All that matters ~ is where the students falls in the top 10% or so, of the class. At their FCPS high school (UVA denying this is BS)

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll be honest, I feel you like you don’t have a good list. She will get into none of the Ivies. She may get into VT. Sounds like she would be disappointed to attend her safeties. Unless she’s happy to attend her targets (GW, Pitt, etc), I would throw in a few other apps.

I disagree - this is a good list! It has some schools in each category - safety/fit/reach. You never know - she may get into one of the reaches.. it's a total crapshoot. Does she have the appetite for more applications? Maybe add a few more.. Delaware? I bet she'll get into VA Tech. Good luck, and don't despair... who cares about UVA. She'll go somewhere that's perfect for her!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:last year my DD got into UVA A&S school in the RD round with a 4.2 GPA. She decided to wait till RD to include his senior year quarter grades and it paid off. She had perfect SAT and very good EC's with some national awards. She was also a NMSF with good essays.

Didn’t work for my kid with 4.3, 1580, good ECs last year. Wanted to include senior grades (all As) to bolster his app but still didn’t get into UVA.

this is the craziest post in the entire thread. You bang out a 1580 and you’re doing a dance with your parents in the kitchen. Not sure what a 4.3 translates too, but i’m sure it’s a few A-‘s at worst. Ivies maybe should be a reach here, but this kid should be a slam dunk for a school the caliber / reputation of UVa

The problem is that there are more kids like this than available slots.

A lot more.

unless the kid made zero effort with ecs and essays, this is mind boggling

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I say this with the kindest of intentions, but you might want to rethink "keeping her hopes up." It is far better to be clear-eyed and realistic about where things may be headed, and affirm that you think she is smart and wonderful and will thrive wherever she lands.

My DD heard from a safety first and deliberately spent hours pouring over the website and YouTube videos and social media after she got accepted so that she would fall in love with it and feel excited about it, just in case nothing else worked out. And you know what, she did! She ended up getting into one of her top choices, but it really kept her spirits up while she waited.

NP and I could not agree more with this. My kid got rejected from his ED school (which was not a surprise, but of course it was still a disappointment), and we’ve really been focusing on the fact that he has some very attractive options from EA, regardless of what happens with the rest of his applications. He is particularly excited about getting top merit from one of the EA schools, something that won’t happen with his remaining schools, and is focusing on how great it would be to have that money saved for grad school.

Obviously he will still be bummed if he doesn’t get into his remaining top choices (a distinct possibility!), but he is not pinning all of his hopes on those decisions.

That is the problem is very hard to predict where it is possible to get accepted and am also advising DD may be to add 2 more schools just in case.