what happened to William and Mary??

[Anonymous]

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former heads of FBI, CIA, sec of Defense

Well that indicates a certain something, and not something many of us like. About the AC comment. ALL students in Virginia need AC. If there are university facilities without AC, in Virginia, that is shocking and shameful.

Every university in VA has dorms with no AC except perhaps the newer schools, like CNU.

My kid is at VTech and has air conditioning.

Nobody is saying that there are no dorms with AC at these schools. But they all have one or more dorms that don't.

https://housing.vt.edu/CGS/accommodations.html

Our traditional-style rooms are the most common type of buildings on campus. These buildings are non-air conditioned. Each floor will have a central restroom and will be separated by gender, though there is a sink and vanity in all rooms. Beds in these rooms are all lofted. For a fee, arrangements can be made to have the beds delofted for your guests.

Traditional-style buildings include:

Ambler Johnston (air-conditioned)
East Campbell
Main Campbell
East Eggleston (air-conditioned)
Main Eggleston
West Eggleston
Johnson
Hoge
Miles
Newman
O'Shaughnessy (air-conditioned)
Pritchard
Slusher Wing
Slusher Tower
Vawter
Whitehurst

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Usn&wr rankings changed considerably this year. No longer remotely useful for academic information- they’re all about social mobility.

Nothing wrong with social mobility.

You just want rich people going to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happened to William & Mary?:

https://news.wm.edu/2023/12/20/william-mary-sees-another-significant-increase-in-early-decision-applications/

It's still getting more popular

100%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Usn&wr rankings changed considerably this year. No longer remotely useful for academic information- they’re all about social mobility.

Nothing wrong with social mobility.

You just want rich people going to college?

Where did you see that? The OP asked what happened to W&M rankings and I explained these rankings had drastically changed to focus on social mobility; W&M didn’t change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

former heads of FBI, CIA, sec of Defense

Well that indicates a certain something, and not something many of us like. About the AC comment. ALL students in Virginia need AC. If there are university facilities without AC, in Virginia, that is shocking and shameful.

Every university in VA has dorms with no AC except perhaps the newer schools, like CNU.

My kid is at VTech and has air conditioning.

Met a VT student this fall who was extremely congested, complaining of mold in her dorm, and saying she and all of her roommates were sick from the mold. The lack of AC in colleges in Virginia is an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

former heads of FBI, CIA, sec of Defense

Well that indicates a certain something, and not something many of us like. About the AC comment. ALL students in Virginia need AC. If there are university facilities without AC, in Virginia, that is shocking and shameful.

Every university in VA has dorms with no AC except perhaps the newer schools, like CNU.

My kid is at VTech and has air conditioning.

Met a VT student this fall who was extremely congested, complaining of mold in her dorm, and saying she and all of her roommates were sick from the mold. The lack of AC in colleges in Virginia is an issue.

State could easily fix that if they funded these schools more so they didn't have to pick between adding AC or funding education. P3 route seems to be the only good option rn to updating housing on limited funds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMD is better

We live in MD my kid loved W & M and it was his first choice. He received 1/2 BK scholarship to UMD ($17K COA) no merit aid to W&M (about 58K OOS COA). The kid understood and went to UMD. it was the right choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

former heads of FBI, CIA, sec of Defense

Well that indicates a certain something, and not something many of us like. About the AC comment. ALL students in Virginia need AC. If there are university facilities without AC, in Virginia, that is shocking and shameful.

Every university in VA has dorms with no AC except perhaps the newer schools, like CNU.

My kid is at VTech and has air conditioning.

Nobody is saying that there are no dorms with AC at these schools. But they all have one or more dorms that don't.

https://housing.vt.edu/CGS/accommodations.html

Our traditional-style rooms are the most common type of buildings on campus. These buildings are non-air conditioned. Each floor will have a central restroom and will be separated by gender, though there is a sink and vanity in all rooms. Beds in these rooms are all lofted. For a fee, arrangements can be made to have the beds delofted for your guests.

Traditional-style buildings include:

Ambler Johnston (air-conditioned)
East Campbell
Main Campbell
East Eggleston (air-conditioned)
Main Eggleston
West Eggleston
Johnson
Hoge
Miles
Newman
O'Shaughnessy (air-conditioned)
Pritchard
Slusher Wing
Slusher Tower
Vawter
Whitehurst

West AJ was not air-conditioned when I was there as a Freshmen! I brought by big fan. Survived and don’t remember it being bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

former heads of FBI, CIA, sec of Defense

Well that indicates a certain something, and not something many of us like. About the AC comment. ALL students in Virginia need AC. If there are university facilities without AC, in Virginia, that is shocking and shameful.

Every university in VA has dorms with no AC except perhaps the newer schools, like CNU.

My kid is at VTech and has air conditioning.

Met a VT student this fall who was extremely congested, complaining of mold in her dorm, and saying she and all of her roommates were sick from the mold. The lack of AC in colleges in Virginia is an issue.

I agree - same experience at both W&M and UVA.

[Anonymous]

Thomas Jefferson’s school (the one he graduated from, not the one he founded) is doing just fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:USNWR now emphasizes total cost of attendance. UVA and William and Mary are both very expensive public schools for instate and out of state. That dragged down their ratings.

This change makes the ratings more valuable
To the vast majority of families who care about total cost. Not so much if you’re comfortably full pay.

UVA’s ranking did not drop in the new rankings, and while W&M’s did it had been slowly dropping for the last several years.

In other words, you’re wrong.

UVA dropped two spots from last year. W&M's drop this year was comparable to its peer Wake Forest's ranking drop.

Dropping 2 spots is just statistical noise. Not a real drop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:USNWR now emphasizes total cost of attendance. UVA and William and Mary are both very expensive public schools for instate and out of state. That dragged down their ratings.

This change makes the ratings more valuable
To the vast majority of families who care about total cost. Not so much if you’re comfortably full pay.

UVA’s ranking did not drop in the new rankings, and while W&M’s did it had been slowly dropping for the last several years.

In other words, you’re wrong.

UVA dropped two spots from last year. W&M's drop this year was comparable to its peer Wake Forest's ranking drop.

Dropping 2 spots is just statistical noise. Not a real drop.

UVA actually went up by one spot; however, I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:USNWR now emphasizes total cost of attendance. UVA and William and Mary are both very expensive public schools for instate and out of state. That dragged down their ratings.

This change makes the ratings more valuable
To the vast majority of families who care about total cost. Not so much if you’re comfortably full pay.

UVA’s ranking did not drop in the new rankings, and while W&M’s did it had been slowly dropping for the last several years.

In other words, you’re wrong.

UVA dropped two spots from last year. W&M's drop this year was comparable to its peer Wake Forest's ranking drop.

Dropping 2 spots is just statistical noise. Not a real drop.

UVA actually went up by one spot; however, I agree with you.

None of the changes are real drops or increases for any of the schools. If you change the metrics on which you are evaluating the schools - I.e. the inputs - the results are going to change. Essentially, it’s a different survey. I looked it over pretty closely in terms of the metrics and it really no longer focuses on things that are a particular priority as I help my kids evaluate schools. Not that being accessible and having students with Pell grants isn’t good - it is - it’s just not how my kids are picking schools. I’m concerned about things like class size and access to advising. I don’t know why some random publication is given so much credence in determining school reputation.

Do you really think Ohio State is “better” than W&M whatever “better” even means? I actually don’t think one is even necessarily “better”? It’s really a question of what the student is seeking and where they will most likely be happy and successful. For my DC W&M is going to be a much better fit than Ohio State. I’m not letting USNWR do our thinking for us.

[Anonymous]

Nothing. Still a 2nd tier state school with mediocre CS/Engineering.

[Anonymous]

Nothing has chan, still a great university that offers an incredible education at a decent price point. Not a school for everyone but as rising application numbers demonstrate many more students want to attend that the school can admit.

Not a school for those who aren’t willing to work hard to do well.