Tell me about your healthy diet

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Anonymous wrote:2100 calories a day, 150g of protein, 3 servings of veg and 2 fruits per day. I'm very active and strength train.


Would you mind posting the types of things that you eat?

I tried to eat a pork chop, a sweet potato, a big salad (no dressing) and broccoli for dinner last night, and a few hours later I was starving.



I would steam broccoli florets until not quite tender, sprinkle liberally with olive oil and garlic salt/seasoning and roast at 425 for 20 minutes or so. Buy shredded kale in bag at Trader Joe’s and toss it with olive oil/ vinegar- you can red bell peppers, red onion, avocado, pepitas or whatever nut you like. The salad goes into your open sweet potato. I might skip the pork chop all together and add roasted garbanzos to the salad. Basically, tart up your fiber/veggies with fat and seasoning to be satisfying.


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Jeezus don’t skip the pork chop. That’s where most of your fat/protein is coming from and will give you satiety that keeps you feeling full. I agree with adding fat to the vegetables. Many nutrients in vegetables can’t be absorbed by the body in the absence of fat anyway, so your dressing-less salad is basically of little use nutritionally to your body.
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Anonymous wrote:I've spent the last six months slowly transforming my diet. I was raised on bad foods - much of it processed, definitely the typical low fiber high fat American diet. After I left home I recreated most of the foods I'd eaten growing up but the busier my career got the more my diet relied on a lot of take out most of which was also low fiber high fat and high sodium to boot.

The last several years I got a lot of experience cooking - before I'd been a passable cook but I became much more skilled and began to really enjoy cooking. I'm grateful for those skills and that enjoyment because it's helped a lot with the transition to eating foods that are fairly new to me as I begin to eat more plant based. Growing up vegetables mostly came in a can or when fresh were cooked to the point they were entirely unappetizing - it's a whole new world for me to crave vegetables and fruit and for them to be the focus of my grocery shop and diet.

I recommend Dr. Robert Lustig's books, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz's book and online content on the fiber fueled diet, and especially if you podcast, check out The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll. It's the podcast of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine and the content it medically accurate and has really motivated me to make these life changes. They push a plant based diet for optimal human health, but there isn't judgment or condemnation for listeners who continue to consume animal products. I still eat eggs, some dairy, and chicken - yesterday for Xmas I had some ham, it was lovely, but I definitely feel better the last few months that I no longer consume beef or pork and have cut way back on cheese and butter.

Every morning I consume:

12-24 oz blueberry green tea unsweetened
1/4 cup walnuts
1 slice (6 portions per 9" pie) homemade quiche made with store bought pre-rolled crust, 6 eggs, 3/4 cup cream, 3/4 cup shredded parmesan, 8oz chopped fresh spinach sauteed with 4oz julienned sundried tomatoes and minced fresh garlic. Quiche is flavored with either italian herb blend or herbs de provence and also plentiful chili flakes as I really love heat in my food and it is thought to help with BP.

Sometimes I also have a side of roasted veggies - red or sweet potatotes or brussel sprouts - with my quiche, but more often just the quiche and afterward a piece of fruit either small apple, banana or 2-3 little mandarin oranges.

This nuts and quiche and fruit breakfast works so well for my body - it's a great phytonutrient bomb with the right balance of fat, protein, carbs and especially fiber that it keeps me sated for hours. I usually have breakfast around 8 and don't think about food again until 2pm. Usually around that time I'll have a cup of raw broccoli and another serving of nuts - pistachios typically - or more fruit.

Dinners can be roasted vegetables in various combinations, rice bowl with roasted veggies, or my curry which I make 2x month. My curry is tomato based with onions, sweet peppers, garlic, dark garbanzo beans, kale or spinach and some chicken because I still love some saturated fat in curry (I also use some cream and butter, but not much compared to how I made it a year ago). When I make a batch of curry I make a batch of rice and keep it in the fridge for the week - it makes leftovers easier but it's also a great method because rice and potatoes and certain other starches (pasta) become much more resistant when cooked and then cooled before eating - whether you eat it cold like pasta salad or reheat it again for consumption.

Dr. Lustig's boom Metabolical discusses that the two rules for caring for your body are 1) feed the gut and 2) protect the liver. Feed the gut means design your diet around feeding the microbiome in your gut. There are billions of bacteria in there and they all like different food - Dr. Bulsiewicz, a gastroenterologist, suggests it's best practice to consume at least 30 different plant sources per week, and as many each day as you can. Plant sources include fruits and veggies and whole grains but also herbs and spices so you can get a variety easily. My quiche contains ten different plant food sources, for instance. Paired with the nuts and fruit or side veggie, I've already consumed 12+ sources at one meal.

I still struggle a little with occasional emotional urges for sweets and unhealthy savories, but the thing that astonished me was how within a few weeks of consuming the RDA+ of fiber every day, and a variety from whole foods, my gut microbiome rebalanced so nicely that beyond having beautiful BMs every morning, my food-obsessed brain has just quieted down almost entirely. I don't have cravings like I'd battled for years in peri/menopause. When I do have sweets or really fatty foods, I am quickly satisfied and usually feel icky after consumption because my gut just doesn't want that food. Sweets and fat destroy the good bugs and feed bad bugs that make you feel sick and tired all the time.

Vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds. Little meat or dairy, none at all if you can. Don't grab for substitutes - avoid ultra processed foods as much as possible. Our bodies are evolved for whole foods, close a possible to harvest condition.

This has been some of the hardest but also best work of my life. I wish I'd been born into a healthy eating family but I don't think many Americans really are, most of us are eating a diet that is really not good for our hearts and guts and other organs. It's nice to see there really is a movement of doctors trying to change healthcare by prevention through diet and other lifestyle modifications, but the forces against them are strong so it will take time to change our food and public health education systems. So much of our chronic disease is curable by using food as medicine but there is not a lot of profit in that except for broccoli farmers.


NP. This is fantastic. I'm going to make a quiche tomorrow.


No problems with quiche, but store bought prerolled crust is disgusting and full of palm oil/hydrogenated oil or soybean oil. Not something I would eat every day. Make a crustless quiche or a frittata. If you must have a true quiche, for the love, make your own crust.


The store brand prerolled crust I buy has the following ingredients:

Ingredients: Enriched Bleached Flour (wheat Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate (vitamin B1), Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Folic Acid), Wheat Starch, Lard (deodorized Lard, Hydrogenated Lard, Bht (preservative)), Water, Sugar, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Salt, Sodium Propionate And Citric Acid And Potassium Sorbate (preservatives), Xanthan Gum, Colored With (yellow 5, Red 40). Contains Statement: Wheat.


Those are the same ingredients I'd use if I made my grandmother's crust, which was made with lard. I've made her crust successfully a few times, but it is time consuming and requires food prep space that I don't have anymore - I don't have the typical DCUM kitchen, I have a tiny galley kitchen these days and it's just not a space that I would enjoy trying to roll dough. I'm also certain that the additional time and hassle of making the crust from scratch would likely keep me from making the quiche every 7 days or so which has been my norm for the last year. (BTW I dropped my cholesterol 30 points over the last year eating this quiche almost daily - among other dietary changes, lots more fiber/plants.)

I have been meaning to try making a frittata, although the crust is a little bit of pleasure in my daily eats. I have one last pre-rolled crust in the fridge to make this week's quiche, then I promise to try frittata once and see if it makes me equally happy/sated.


Disgusting. Even worse than I thought. Cannot believe you consume that every day.


It's basically flour, water, and sugar. Where's the problem?


Are you joking? Did you read the ingredients? I promise, this is no one’s grandmother’s recipe


Sorry, I forgot the lard. Still don’t see the problem.


It’s “deodorized and hydrogenated” lard. You can’t eat a worse fat


Thanks for letting us know you don't know what deodorized and hydrogenated means.

And yes, there ARE worse fats - PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED TRANS FATS, which is probably what you're thinking of, little miss/mister expert.

Deodorization is done by the application of steam and does not produce any adverse health effects. Hydrogenation makes a fat saturated, which has some health implications but can be consumed in moderate quantity in a health diet. Again, TRANS fat is an entirely different thing. Educate yourself before you go around snarking and spouting nonsense.


The generic processed lard in cheap baked goods and bought in the tubs in a regular grocery stores are highly processed and are in fact bad for you.

If you want to use lard, by it fresh somewhere or render your own. No one should be eating the processed one daily
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Anonymous wrote:I've spent the last six months slowly transforming my diet. I was raised on bad foods - much of it processed, definitely the typical low fiber high fat American diet. After I left home I recreated most of the foods I'd eaten growing up but the busier my career got the more my diet relied on a lot of take out most of which was also low fiber high fat and high sodium to boot.

The last several years I got a lot of experience cooking - before I'd been a passable cook but I became much more skilled and began to really enjoy cooking. I'm grateful for those skills and that enjoyment because it's helped a lot with the transition to eating foods that are fairly new to me as I begin to eat more plant based. Growing up vegetables mostly came in a can or when fresh were cooked to the point they were entirely unappetizing - it's a whole new world for me to crave vegetables and fruit and for them to be the focus of my grocery shop and diet.

I recommend Dr. Robert Lustig's books, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz's book and online content on the fiber fueled diet, and especially if you podcast, check out The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll. It's the podcast of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine and the content it medically accurate and has really motivated me to make these life changes. They push a plant based diet for optimal human health, but there isn't judgment or condemnation for listeners who continue to consume animal products. I still eat eggs, some dairy, and chicken - yesterday for Xmas I had some ham, it was lovely, but I definitely feel better the last few months that I no longer consume beef or pork and have cut way back on cheese and butter.

Every morning I consume:

12-24 oz blueberry green tea unsweetened
1/4 cup walnuts
1 slice (6 portions per 9" pie) homemade quiche made with store bought pre-rolled crust, 6 eggs, 3/4 cup cream, 3/4 cup shredded parmesan, 8oz chopped fresh spinach sauteed with 4oz julienned sundried tomatoes and minced fresh garlic. Quiche is flavored with either italian herb blend or herbs de provence and also plentiful chili flakes as I really love heat in my food and it is thought to help with BP.

Sometimes I also have a side of roasted veggies - red or sweet potatotes or brussel sprouts - with my quiche, but more often just the quiche and afterward a piece of fruit either small apple, banana or 2-3 little mandarin oranges.

This nuts and quiche and fruit breakfast works so well for my body - it's a great phytonutrient bomb with the right balance of fat, protein, carbs and especially fiber that it keeps me sated for hours. I usually have breakfast around 8 and don't think about food again until 2pm. Usually around that time I'll have a cup of raw broccoli and another serving of nuts - pistachios typically - or more fruit.

Dinners can be roasted vegetables in various combinations, rice bowl with roasted veggies, or my curry which I make 2x month. My curry is tomato based with onions, sweet peppers, garlic, dark garbanzo beans, kale or spinach and some chicken because I still love some saturated fat in curry (I also use some cream and butter, but not much compared to how I made it a year ago). When I make a batch of curry I make a batch of rice and keep it in the fridge for the week - it makes leftovers easier but it's also a great method because rice and potatoes and certain other starches (pasta) become much more resistant when cooked and then cooled before eating - whether you eat it cold like pasta salad or reheat it again for consumption.

Dr. Lustig's boom Metabolical discusses that the two rules for caring for your body are 1) feed the gut and 2) protect the liver. Feed the gut means design your diet around feeding the microbiome in your gut. There are billions of bacteria in there and they all like different food - Dr. Bulsiewicz, a gastroenterologist, suggests it's best practice to consume at least 30 different plant sources per week, and as many each day as you can. Plant sources include fruits and veggies and whole grains but also herbs and spices so you can get a variety easily. My quiche contains ten different plant food sources, for instance. Paired with the nuts and fruit or side veggie, I've already consumed 12+ sources at one meal.

I still struggle a little with occasional emotional urges for sweets and unhealthy savories, but the thing that astonished me was how within a few weeks of consuming the RDA+ of fiber every day, and a variety from whole foods, my gut microbiome rebalanced so nicely that beyond having beautiful BMs every morning, my food-obsessed brain has just quieted down almost entirely. I don't have cravings like I'd battled for years in peri/menopause. When I do have sweets or really fatty foods, I am quickly satisfied and usually feel icky after consumption because my gut just doesn't want that food. Sweets and fat destroy the good bugs and feed bad bugs that make you feel sick and tired all the time.

Vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds. Little meat or dairy, none at all if you can. Don't grab for substitutes - avoid ultra processed foods as much as possible. Our bodies are evolved for whole foods, close a possible to harvest condition.

This has been some of the hardest but also best work of my life. I wish I'd been born into a healthy eating family but I don't think many Americans really are, most of us are eating a diet that is really not good for our hearts and guts and other organs. It's nice to see there really is a movement of doctors trying to change healthcare by prevention through diet and other lifestyle modifications, but the forces against them are strong so it will take time to change our food and public health education systems. So much of our chronic disease is curable by using food as medicine but there is not a lot of profit in that except for broccoli farmers.


NP. This is fantastic. I'm going to make a quiche tomorrow.


No problems with quiche, but store bought prerolled crust is disgusting and full of palm oil/hydrogenated oil or soybean oil. Not something I would eat every day. Make a crustless quiche or a frittata. If you must have a true quiche, for the love, make your own crust.


The store brand prerolled crust I buy has the following ingredients:

Ingredients: Enriched Bleached Flour (wheat Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate (vitamin B1), Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Folic Acid), Wheat Starch, Lard (deodorized Lard, Hydrogenated Lard, Bht (preservative)), Water, Sugar, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Salt, Sodium Propionate And Citric Acid And Potassium Sorbate (preservatives), Xanthan Gum, Colored With (yellow 5, Red 40). Contains Statement: Wheat.


Those are the same ingredients I'd use if I made my grandmother's crust, which was made with lard. I've made her crust successfully a few times, but it is time consuming and requires food prep space that I don't have anymore - I don't have the typical DCUM kitchen, I have a tiny galley kitchen these days and it's just not a space that I would enjoy trying to roll dough. I'm also certain that the additional time and hassle of making the crust from scratch would likely keep me from making the quiche every 7 days or so which has been my norm for the last year. (BTW I dropped my cholesterol 30 points over the last year eating this quiche almost daily - among other dietary changes, lots more fiber/plants.)

I have been meaning to try making a frittata, although the crust is a little bit of pleasure in my daily eats. I have one last pre-rolled crust in the fridge to make this week's quiche, then I promise to try frittata once and see if it makes me equally happy/sated.


Disgusting. Even worse than I thought. Cannot believe you consume that every day.


It's basically flour, water, and sugar. Where's the problem?


Are you joking? Did you read the ingredients? I promise, this is no one’s grandmother’s recipe


Sorry, I forgot the lard. Still don’t see the problem.


It’s “deodorized and hydrogenated” lard. You can’t eat a worse fat


Thanks for letting us know you don't know what deodorized and hydrogenated means.

And yes, there ARE worse fats - PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED TRANS FATS, which is probably what you're thinking of, little miss/mister expert.

Deodorization is done by the application of steam and does not produce any adverse health effects. Hydrogenation makes a fat saturated, which has some health implications but can be consumed in moderate quantity in a health diet. Again, TRANS fat is an entirely different thing. Educate yourself before you go around snarking and spouting nonsense.


The generic processed lard in cheap baked goods and bought in the tubs in a regular grocery stores are highly processed and are in fact bad for you.

If you want to use lard, by it fresh somewhere or render your own. No one should be eating the processed one daily


My physician says my quiche recipe is great and I should rely on the fact that I’ve reduced my cholesterol 30 points, lost 25 lbs and improved all my other numbers across the board.

But thanks anyway for your unsolicited, misinformed and annoying advice.
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Anonymous wrote:2100 calories a day, 150g of protein, 3 servings of veg and 2 fruits per day. I'm very active and strength train.


Would you mind posting the types of things that you eat?

I tried to eat a pork chop, a sweet potato, a big salad (no dressing) and broccoli for dinner last night, and a few hours later I was starving.


Of course. I do fasted cardio and then have 3 eggs fried in olive oil, 4 slices turkey bacon, 2 slices whole wheat toast, and a pear for breakfast. I have a protein shake and a mango before my strength training session and another shake afterwards. Dinner is 8 oz of sirloin with chimichurri, 2 cups basmati rice, and a salad with 2 cups of romaine, 2 cups of endive, and *gasp* 2 tbsp of ranch dressing.
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2100 calorie PP again. I think a lot of you are afraid to eat! If you do a dedicated strength training program, you can eat and eat and all of the calories will go towards building lean tissue, which makes you look slim and toned. I ate a strict 1350 calorie a day diet for years and was miserable. I had zero energy and felt preoccupied with food all day. I am overflowing with energy eating this way, and fit into the same clothes I was wearing eating half as many calories because of the weightlifting.
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Anonymous wrote:I've spent the last six months slowly transforming my diet. I was raised on bad foods - much of it processed, definitely the typical low fiber high fat American diet. After I left home I recreated most of the foods I'd eaten growing up but the busier my career got the more my diet relied on a lot of take out most of which was also low fiber high fat and high sodium to boot.

The last several years I got a lot of experience cooking - before I'd been a passable cook but I became much more skilled and began to really enjoy cooking. I'm grateful for those skills and that enjoyment because it's helped a lot with the transition to eating foods that are fairly new to me as I begin to eat more plant based. Growing up vegetables mostly came in a can or when fresh were cooked to the point they were entirely unappetizing - it's a whole new world for me to crave vegetables and fruit and for them to be the focus of my grocery shop and diet.

I recommend Dr. Robert Lustig's books, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz's book and online content on the fiber fueled diet, and especially if you podcast, check out The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll. It's the podcast of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine and the content it medically accurate and has really motivated me to make these life changes. They push a plant based diet for optimal human health, but there isn't judgment or condemnation for listeners who continue to consume animal products. I still eat eggs, some dairy, and chicken - yesterday for Xmas I had some ham, it was lovely, but I definitely feel better the last few months that I no longer consume beef or pork and have cut way back on cheese and butter.

Every morning I consume:

12-24 oz blueberry green tea unsweetened
1/4 cup walnuts
1 slice (6 portions per 9" pie) homemade quiche made with store bought pre-rolled crust, 6 eggs, 3/4 cup cream, 3/4 cup shredded parmesan, 8oz chopped fresh spinach sauteed with 4oz julienned sundried tomatoes and minced fresh garlic. Quiche is flavored with either italian herb blend or herbs de provence and also plentiful chili flakes as I really love heat in my food and it is thought to help with BP.

Sometimes I also have a side of roasted veggies - red or sweet potatotes or brussel sprouts - with my quiche, but more often just the quiche and afterward a piece of fruit either small apple, banana or 2-3 little mandarin oranges.

This nuts and quiche and fruit breakfast works so well for my body - it's a great phytonutrient bomb with the right balance of fat, protein, carbs and especially fiber that it keeps me sated for hours. I usually have breakfast around 8 and don't think about food again until 2pm. Usually around that time I'll have a cup of raw broccoli and another serving of nuts - pistachios typically - or more fruit.

Dinners can be roasted vegetables in various combinations, rice bowl with roasted veggies, or my curry which I make 2x month. My curry is tomato based with onions, sweet peppers, garlic, dark garbanzo beans, kale or spinach and some chicken because I still love some saturated fat in curry (I also use some cream and butter, but not much compared to how I made it a year ago). When I make a batch of curry I make a batch of rice and keep it in the fridge for the week - it makes leftovers easier but it's also a great method because rice and potatoes and certain other starches (pasta) become much more resistant when cooked and then cooled before eating - whether you eat it cold like pasta salad or reheat it again for consumption.

Dr. Lustig's boom Metabolical discusses that the two rules for caring for your body are 1) feed the gut and 2) protect the liver. Feed the gut means design your diet around feeding the microbiome in your gut. There are billions of bacteria in there and they all like different food - Dr. Bulsiewicz, a gastroenterologist, suggests it's best practice to consume at least 30 different plant sources per week, and as many each day as you can. Plant sources include fruits and veggies and whole grains but also herbs and spices so you can get a variety easily. My quiche contains ten different plant food sources, for instance. Paired with the nuts and fruit or side veggie, I've already consumed 12+ sources at one meal.

I still struggle a little with occasional emotional urges for sweets and unhealthy savories, but the thing that astonished me was how within a few weeks of consuming the RDA+ of fiber every day, and a variety from whole foods, my gut microbiome rebalanced so nicely that beyond having beautiful BMs every morning, my food-obsessed brain has just quieted down almost entirely. I don't have cravings like I'd battled for years in peri/menopause. When I do have sweets or really fatty foods, I am quickly satisfied and usually feel icky after consumption because my gut just doesn't want that food. Sweets and fat destroy the good bugs and feed bad bugs that make you feel sick and tired all the time.

Vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds. Little meat or dairy, none at all if you can. Don't grab for substitutes - avoid ultra processed foods as much as possible. Our bodies are evolved for whole foods, close a possible to harvest condition.

This has been some of the hardest but also best work of my life. I wish I'd been born into a healthy eating family but I don't think many Americans really are, most of us are eating a diet that is really not good for our hearts and guts and other organs. It's nice to see there really is a movement of doctors trying to change healthcare by prevention through diet and other lifestyle modifications, but the forces against them are strong so it will take time to change our food and public health education systems. So much of our chronic disease is curable by using food as medicine but there is not a lot of profit in that except for broccoli farmers.


NP. This is fantastic. I'm going to make a quiche tomorrow.


No problems with quiche, but store bought prerolled crust is disgusting and full of palm oil/hydrogenated oil or soybean oil. Not something I would eat every day. Make a crustless quiche or a frittata. If you must have a true quiche, for the love, make your own crust.


The store brand prerolled crust I buy has the following ingredients:

Ingredients: Enriched Bleached Flour (wheat Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate (vitamin B1), Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Folic Acid), Wheat Starch, Lard (deodorized Lard, Hydrogenated Lard, Bht (preservative)), Water, Sugar, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Salt, Sodium Propionate And Citric Acid And Potassium Sorbate (preservatives), Xanthan Gum, Colored With (yellow 5, Red 40). Contains Statement: Wheat.


Those are the same ingredients I'd use if I made my grandmother's crust, which was made with lard. I've made her crust successfully a few times, but it is time consuming and requires food prep space that I don't have anymore - I don't have the typical DCUM kitchen, I have a tiny galley kitchen these days and it's just not a space that I would enjoy trying to roll dough. I'm also certain that the additional time and hassle of making the crust from scratch would likely keep me from making the quiche every 7 days or so which has been my norm for the last year. (BTW I dropped my cholesterol 30 points over the last year eating this quiche almost daily - among other dietary changes, lots more fiber/plants.)

I have been meaning to try making a frittata, although the crust is a little bit of pleasure in my daily eats. I have one last pre-rolled crust in the fridge to make this week's quiche, then I promise to try frittata once and see if it makes me equally happy/sated.


Disgusting. Even worse than I thought. Cannot believe you consume that every day.


It's basically flour, water, and sugar. Where's the problem?


Are you joking? Did you read the ingredients? I promise, this is no one’s grandmother’s recipe


Sorry, I forgot the lard. Still don’t see the problem.


It’s “deodorized and hydrogenated” lard. You can’t eat a worse fat


Thanks for letting us know you don't know what deodorized and hydrogenated means.

And yes, there ARE worse fats - PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED TRANS FATS, which is probably what you're thinking of, little miss/mister expert.

Deodorization is done by the application of steam and does not produce any adverse health effects. Hydrogenation makes a fat saturated, which has some health implications but can be consumed in moderate quantity in a health diet. Again, TRANS fat is an entirely different thing. Educate yourself before you go around snarking and spouting nonsense.


The generic processed lard in cheap baked goods and bought in the tubs in a regular grocery stores are highly processed and are in fact bad for you.

If you want to use lard, by it fresh somewhere or render your own. No one should be eating the processed one daily


My physician says my quiche recipe is great and I should rely on the fact that I’ve reduced my cholesterol 30 points, lost 25 lbs and improved all my other numbers across the board.

But thanks anyway for your unsolicited, misinformed and annoying advice.


I’m sure your physician looked over your quiche recipe.
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Anonymous wrote:No carbs after breakfast, only european gluten, tons of organic, local vegetables and fruit, grassfed, free range or wild caught proteins.


Where do you get european gluten/flour?
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Anonymous wrote:2100 calories a day, 150g of protein, 3 servings of veg and 2 fruits per day. I'm very active and strength train.


Would you mind posting the types of things that you eat?

I tried to eat a pork chop, a sweet potato, a big salad (no dressing) and broccoli for dinner last night, and a few hours later I was starving.


Of course. I do fasted cardio and then have 3 eggs fried in olive oil, 4 slices turkey bacon, 2 slices whole wheat toast, and a pear for breakfast. I have a protein shake and a mango before my strength training session and another shake afterwards. Dinner is 8 oz of sirloin with chimichurri, 2 cups basmati rice, and a salad with 2 cups of romaine, 2 cups of endive, and *gasp* 2 tbsp of ranch dressing.


Thanks. This sounds delicious.
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Anonymous wrote:No carbs after breakfast, only european gluten, tons of organic, local vegetables and fruit, grassfed, free range or wild caught proteins.


Where do you get european gluten/flour?


Would also love to know this.
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Here's MY weird gross hack that seems to work when I need food and protein and have no time. Probably eat it at least once a day, sometimes twice.

Cottage cheese with a sprinkle of nutritional yeast and some sort of Trader Joe's seasoning. The Green Goddess is pretty good. If you have time, throw some diced up vegetables in it.

It's fast, it's easy, it's not to bad for you and has a lot of protein. My husband is horrified, but a lot of things mess with my digestive system and this one never has.
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I have not read any of the previous responses yet, so forgive me for giving a real answer if this thread has devolved the way these usually do into the ED v protein haters v Ozempic poster wars...

43 yo F, workout 7 days/week, mix of running, yoga, hiking, walking. I wear an Apple Watch and use Cronometer to track macros. The app give some more calories to eat depending on how much I burn, but I usually eat about 1700-2000 calories/day with a 30-30-40 macro balance. That ends up being 100-130 grams of protein.

I drink coffee with sugar and milk, then have one of three things for breakfast - avocado on whole wheat sourdough, veggie omelet with half egg whites, or whole milk greek yogurt with granola and berries.

Morning snack - green smoothie with fruit, protein powder, and chia.

Lunch is a hearty, broth-based soup with greens and protein or a big salad with protein. I will have sourdough bread or some type of whole grain mixed in.

If I am hungry in the afternoon, I will have an apple with almond butter, a cheese stick, a protein shake, or a hard-boiled egg.

Dinner is pretty much whatever I want, but always homemade and incorporating vegetables.

I make everything from scratch (bread, granola, yogurt).... my biggest food rule is as little processed food as possible.

Very limited alcohol and drinks other than water and tea (plus morning coffee). Dark chocolate pretty much every afternoon. Sometimes a bigger dessert after dinner.
Anonymous
Could some of the posters who are making this work post recipes, please?
Anonymous
I thought of my “overhaul” as adding good stuff vs. subtracting the bad, which mentally is very helpful.

I added protein (at least 120g/day) fiber (chia in morning yogurt, vegetables at lunch and dinner and fruit as a snack) and drink a ton of water. I’m not starving treats like I used to.

I also cut alcohol completely 6 yrs ago and feel great without it
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Anonymous wrote:Counting grams of protein, fat, and carbs is not helpful, nor is counting calories.

But if you insist on counting something, count grams of fiber.

The more of it you can consume the better.


Counting calories helps me say no to more food when I realize I've already consumed the day's worth of calories.
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Anonymous wrote:I've spent the last six months slowly transforming my diet. I was raised on bad foods - much of it processed, definitely the typical low fiber high fat American diet. After I left home I recreated most of the foods I'd eaten growing up but the busier my career got the more my diet relied on a lot of take out most of which was also low fiber high fat and high sodium to boot.

The last several years I got a lot of experience cooking - before I'd been a passable cook but I became much more skilled and began to really enjoy cooking. I'm grateful for those skills and that enjoyment because it's helped a lot with the transition to eating foods that are fairly new to me as I begin to eat more plant based. Growing up vegetables mostly came in a can or when fresh were cooked to the point they were entirely unappetizing - it's a whole new world for me to crave vegetables and fruit and for them to be the focus of my grocery shop and diet.

I recommend Dr. Robert Lustig's books, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz's book and online content on the fiber fueled diet, and especially if you podcast, check out The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll. It's the podcast of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine and the content it medically accurate and has really motivated me to make these life changes. They push a plant based diet for optimal human health, but there isn't judgment or condemnation for listeners who continue to consume animal products. I still eat eggs, some dairy, and chicken - yesterday for Xmas I had some ham, it was lovely, but I definitely feel better the last few months that I no longer consume beef or pork and have cut way back on cheese and butter.

Every morning I consume:

12-24 oz blueberry green tea unsweetened
1/4 cup walnuts
1 slice (6 portions per 9" pie) homemade quiche made with store bought pre-rolled crust, 6 eggs, 3/4 cup cream, 3/4 cup shredded parmesan, 8oz chopped fresh spinach sauteed with 4oz julienned sundried tomatoes and minced fresh garlic. Quiche is flavored with either italian herb blend or herbs de provence and also plentiful chili flakes as I really love heat in my food and it is thought to help with BP.

Sometimes I also have a side of roasted veggies - red or sweet potatotes or brussel sprouts - with my quiche, but more often just the quiche and afterward a piece of fruit either small apple, banana or 2-3 little mandarin oranges.

This nuts and quiche and fruit breakfast works so well for my body - it's a great phytonutrient bomb with the right balance of fat, protein, carbs and especially fiber that it keeps me sated for hours. I usually have breakfast around 8 and don't think about food again until 2pm. Usually around that time I'll have a cup of raw broccoli and another serving of nuts - pistachios typically - or more fruit.

Dinners can be roasted vegetables in various combinations, rice bowl with roasted veggies, or my curry which I make 2x month. My curry is tomato based with onions, sweet peppers, garlic, dark garbanzo beans, kale or spinach and some chicken because I still love some saturated fat in curry (I also use some cream and butter, but not much compared to how I made it a year ago). When I make a batch of curry I make a batch of rice and keep it in the fridge for the week - it makes leftovers easier but it's also a great method because rice and potatoes and certain other starches (pasta) become much more resistant when cooked and then cooled before eating - whether you eat it cold like pasta salad or reheat it again for consumption.

Dr. Lustig's boom Metabolical discusses that the two rules for caring for your body are 1) feed the gut and 2) protect the liver. Feed the gut means design your diet around feeding the microbiome in your gut. There are billions of bacteria in there and they all like different food - Dr. Bulsiewicz, a gastroenterologist, suggests it's best practice to consume at least 30 different plant sources per week, and as many each day as you can. Plant sources include fruits and veggies and whole grains but also herbs and spices so you can get a variety easily. My quiche contains ten different plant food sources, for instance. Paired with the nuts and fruit or side veggie, I've already consumed 12+ sources at one meal.

I still struggle a little with occasional emotional urges for sweets and unhealthy savories, but the thing that astonished me was how within a few weeks of consuming the RDA+ of fiber every day, and a variety from whole foods, my gut microbiome rebalanced so nicely that beyond having beautiful BMs every morning, my food-obsessed brain has just quieted down almost entirely. I don't have cravings like I'd battled for years in peri/menopause. When I do have sweets or really fatty foods, I am quickly satisfied and usually feel icky after consumption because my gut just doesn't want that food. Sweets and fat destroy the good bugs and feed bad bugs that make you feel sick and tired all the time.

Vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds. Little meat or dairy, none at all if you can. Don't grab for substitutes - avoid ultra processed foods as much as possible. Our bodies are evolved for whole foods, close a possible to harvest condition.

This has been some of the hardest but also best work of my life. I wish I'd been born into a healthy eating family but I don't think many Americans really are, most of us are eating a diet that is really not good for our hearts and guts and other organs. It's nice to see there really is a movement of doctors trying to change healthcare by prevention through diet and other lifestyle modifications, but the forces against them are strong so it will take time to change our food and public health education systems. So much of our chronic disease is curable by using food as medicine but there is not a lot of profit in that except for broccoli farmers.


NP. This is fantastic. I'm going to make a quiche tomorrow.


No problems with quiche, but store bought prerolled crust is disgusting and full of palm oil/hydrogenated oil or soybean oil. Not something I would eat every day. Make a crustless quiche or a frittata. If you must have a true quiche, for the love, make your own crust.


The store brand prerolled crust I buy has the following ingredients:

Ingredients: Enriched Bleached Flour (wheat Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate (vitamin B1), Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Folic Acid), Wheat Starch, Lard (deodorized Lard, Hydrogenated Lard, Bht (preservative)), Water, Sugar, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Salt, Sodium Propionate And Citric Acid And Potassium Sorbate (preservatives), Xanthan Gum, Colored With (yellow 5, Red 40). Contains Statement: Wheat.


Those are the same ingredients I'd use if I made my grandmother's crust, which was made with lard. I've made her crust successfully a few times, but it is time consuming and requires food prep space that I don't have anymore - I don't have the typical DCUM kitchen, I have a tiny galley kitchen these days and it's just not a space that I would enjoy trying to roll dough. I'm also certain that the additional time and hassle of making the crust from scratch would likely keep me from making the quiche every 7 days or so which has been my norm for the last year. (BTW I dropped my cholesterol 30 points over the last year eating this quiche almost daily - among other dietary changes, lots more fiber/plants.)

I have been meaning to try making a frittata, although the crust is a little bit of pleasure in my daily eats. I have one last pre-rolled crust in the fridge to make this week's quiche, then I promise to try frittata once and see if it makes me equally happy/sated.


My pie crust recipe takes around 5-7 minutes to make (plus time in fridge if you want), doesn't use sugar, preservatives, xanthan gum, or artificial dye and has been used by my grandma, mom, and me in tiny kitchens: 1 cup flour, 1/3 cup butter/lard, 1/2 tsp salt, 3.5 or so tbs cold water. Add the water at the end after you've cut the butter/lard into the flour & salt to the size of small peas. Don't over mix, just before it comes together into a ball turn it out to onto wax paper dusted with flour, form into a disc, and put in fridge for an hour or so. I've also baked without putting it in the fridge first before rolling out.
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