What’s going on with Arlington ECNL 08?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy that people think this is club based vs. team based.

The club you are at literally could not mean less. It’s all about where you finish in ECNL during U15 and U16.

Watch union and VDA 08s. Fcv 08s will be good.

Your club’s reputation with colleges matters.

Maybe for first look. But once a college coach realizes the team that they are viewing isn’t good, it changes.

It does not. Colleges recruit players not teams. Worst ecnl team in the country will have college offers even if only concentrated on top half of the team.

Boys side is a different animal compared to the girls, but if he gets himself exposed enough and reaches out to enough potential colleges I'm sure he would have a chance.

Do you think a top player on a ECNL RL team who won nationals would get the same chances of getting recruited as an ordinary player on a ECNL team? This is a 16 year old boy.

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Anonymous wrote:09 has same coach but lost some players to other clubs. Would be surprised if they squeeze into the playoff and if they do, they won’t do well there.

08 and 09 Arlington used to be one of the top teams. I’m wondering if their 2011 is following suit as they recently lost to a team they should have beat.

Arlington and a lot of other teams rely on size and speed. At the other ages, this doesn't work and they start losing. You can't win at the national level with several girls playing up. Eventually those players will be forced to play on age.

At the national level, losing by a goal or two isn't indicative of much IMO. If the gameplay was solid through the match then that's what really matters, there's often too much focus on wins and losses and not enough on the quality of play.

Goals actually matter. As the kids age it is harder and harder to score because defenses start to play as a team. The offensive players have to break down the defense. To score consistently you have to have a midfield. ECNL and college do not play through the midfield and the quality of play is pretty horrendous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:09 has same coach but lost some players to other clubs. Would be surprised if they squeeze into the playoff and if they do, they won’t do well there.

08 and 09 Arlington used to be one of the top teams. I’m wondering if their 2011 is following suit as they recently lost to a team they should have beat.

Arlington and a lot of other teams rely on size and speed. At the other ages, this doesn't work and they start losing. You can't win at the national level with several girls playing up. Eventually those players will be forced to play on age.

At the national level, losing by a goal or two isn't indicative of much IMO. If the gameplay was solid through the match then that's what really matters, there's often too much focus on wins and losses and not enough on the quality of play.

Goals actually matter. As the kids age it is harder and harder to score because defenses start to play as a team. The offensive players have to break down the defense. To score consistently you have to have a midfield. ECNL and college do not play through the midfield and the quality of play is pretty horrendous.

Without a finisher u are f@ked. Our team is great in mid/defensively and strikers/forwards cannot finish at all—even with a wide open goal. I see this on so many teams in this area.

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Anonymous wrote:What about FCV? Many social media posts about how many kids made college last week.

Seem like at least they know how to place kids.

Why not Union or vda then?

Or Loudon/NVA?

Realistically, these clubs are all the same. Just go where your kid is enjoying it and developing.

OP was talking college placement. Loudoun is nowhere FCV, vda, Union in college placement.

If we are talking college placement then Union has the best record here in the DMV by far

FC Virginia and VDA over the last few years have been just as good if not better.

Definitely agree. Union is good but FCV and VDA have been placing a lot over the past few years. And many are getting playing time in college FCV signed 23 last year and 25 this year. VDA had similar numbers. That’s basically the whole team from starters to bench. The only ones not playing next level are either injured or choose not to last minute. Look at club sites. They announce the recruiting class.

Yeah but it’s less about total % of team with offers and more about where they are going. Union is going to Ives and top schools like gtown and uva. List is seriously impressive…

[Anonymous]

Without a finisher u are f@ked. Our team is great in mid/defensively and strikers/forwards cannot finish at all—even with a wide open goal. I see this on so many teams in this area.

Arl08?

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Soccer is dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:09 has same coach but lost some players to other clubs. Would be surprised if they squeeze into the playoff and if they do, they won’t do well there.

08 and 09 Arlington used to be one of the top teams. I’m wondering if their 2011 is following suit as they recently lost to a team they should have beat.

Arlington and a lot of other teams rely on size and speed. At the other ages, this doesn't work and they start losing. You can't win at the national level with several girls playing up. Eventually those players will be forced to play on age.

At the national level, losing by a goal or two isn't indicative of much IMO. If the gameplay was solid through the match then that's what really matters, there's often too much focus on wins and losses and not enough on the quality of play.

Goals actually matter. As the kids age it is harder and harder to score because defenses start to play as a team. The offensive players have to break down the defense. To score consistently you have to have a midfield. ECNL and college do not play through the midfield and the quality of play is pretty horrendous.

The quality of play is horrendous from all ECNL and college teams?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:09 has same coach but lost some players to other clubs. Would be surprised if they squeeze into the playoff and if they do, they won’t do well there.

08 and 09 Arlington used to be one of the top teams. I’m wondering if their 2011 is following suit as they recently lost to a team they should have beat.

Arlington and a lot of other teams rely on size and speed. At the other ages, this doesn't work and they start losing. You can't win at the national level with several girls playing up. Eventually those players will be forced to play on age.

At the national level, losing by a goal or two isn't indicative of much IMO. If the gameplay was solid through the match then that's what really matters, there's often too much focus on wins and losses and not enough on the quality of play.

Goals actually matter. As the kids age it is harder and harder to score because defenses start to play as a team. The offensive players have to break down the defense. To score consistently you have to have a midfield. ECNL and college do not play through the midfield and the quality of play is pretty horrendous.

The quality of play is horrendous from all ECNL and college teams?

DP - yeah, pretty much.

[Anonymous]

The opinion isn't completely incorrect. And everybody must remember that the opinion is that most college and ECNL games don't have the type of play to score consistently. The style of play is primarily geared towards size and speed and direct skipping the midfield generally.

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Anonymous wrote:The opinion isn't completely incorrect. And everybody must remember that the opinion is that most college and ECNL games don't have the type of play to score consistently. The style of play is primarily geared towards size and speed and direct skipping the midfield generally.

Do teams have to play through the midfield?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without a finisher u are f@ked. Our team is great in mid/defensively and strikers/forwards cannot finish at all—even with a wide open goal. I see this on so many teams in this area.

Arl08?


Ugh! "our team"? harsh criticism of 15 year-olds? Step back, re-evaluate, and be an adult with an adult life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The opinion isn't completely incorrect. And everybody must remember that the opinion is that most college and ECNL games don't have the type of play to score consistently. The style of play is primarily geared towards size and speed and direct skipping the midfield generally.

Do teams have to play through the midfield?

No. But generally if a team is skilled enough to do so they will have a better chance at consistently scoring rather than relying on 50:50 balls into the final third.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The opinion isn't completely incorrect. And everybody must remember that the opinion is that most college and ECNL games don't have the type of play to score consistently. The style of play is primarily geared towards size and speed and direct skipping the midfield generally.

Do teams have to play through the midfield?

No but playing through the midfield means your forwards are getting the ball around the box or the final third of the field instead around the center third. It makes a huge difference as the game goes on.

Not playing through the midfield means your forwards are constantly making long runs in to 1vs2 situations. The older the players the less likely that will amount to anything. One player will take the ball, the player will body out the forward. It’s a very easy concept.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy that people think this is club based vs. team based.

The club you are at literally could not mean less. It’s all about where you finish in ECNL during U15 and U16.

Watch union and VDA 08s. Fcv 08s will be good.

Your club’s reputation with colleges matters.

TRUE when your club has a poor reputation teams get 💩 from the league.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opinion isn't completely incorrect. And everybody must remember that the opinion is that most college and ECNL games don't have the type of play to score consistently. The style of play is primarily geared towards size and speed and direct skipping the midfield generally.

Do teams have to play through the midfield?

No but playing through the midfield means your forwards are getting the ball around the box or the final third of the field instead around the center third. It makes a huge difference as the game goes on.

Not playing through the midfield means your forwards are constantly making long runs in to 1vs2 situations. The older the players the less likely that will amount to anything. One player will take the ball, the player will body out the forward. It’s a very easy concept.

Wow! You should coach ECNL!