Does your student like/love UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

No. That does not answer OP’s question. Not one bit.

DP: Well, OPs question was about why it gets a bad rap from some--this is why. Students may like it, but many outside the school find a reasonably sized number of their graduates cocky about their education in a way that feels unwarranted for what it is--a strong flagship university. I don't fully agree, but I would say I have seen a bit more of this cockiness as they transition from school into the "real world" from UVA grads than I do from grads we hire from equally strong or stronger schools. I think it's a bit more insular than a typical flagship because of its size and the limit to have 2/3 of students in-state--breeds a feeling of being a bigger fish than others might consider them. I honestly don't think that's too big of an issue though because most I encountered are quickly disabused of that once they enter the bigger pond.

Your small sample size is not indicative of the greater. I have my own small sample: my two at UVA now are the least cocky people you could ever imagine. They have great internships, both of which were extended from summer, and their bosses sing their praises all the time. So there you go, small sample size to counter yours.

Your standards for lack of cockiness don't hold up to scrutiny.

I'm pretty sure I know who the unsufferable people on this board are...

So do I, and they’re the opposite of those you’re “pretty sure” are.

(insert Boomer-Essie ellipse here)

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Anonymous wrote:I live in northern Virginia and none of my kids have gotten into UVA. I would LOVE for them to attend nearly for the price tag. Currently paying out of state tuition for 3 kids at $80k+ each. I get the jealousy on her and readily admit I am crazy jealous

Truth. Finally.

Lies. Finally.

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Anonymous wrote:You gotta love the helpful posters on this board! What 3-4 people actually answering the question?

Exactly. OP, you should consider the responses of parents of recent or current students, none of which is obnoxiously pro-UVA, and then you should consider the others. Because if your son attends UVA, that’s what your jealous neighbors will be saying about you and your kid behind your back.

No one is “jealous” of UVA, sport, but you just keep telling yourself that.

I don’t need keep to telling myself that, sport. I hear it almost every time someone asks me where my kids go to college.

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Anonymous wrote:Typical DCUM that people whose kids do NOT go to or have gone to UVA are the first to post and bash the school.

I have two at UVA and they both love it. My students only two people who transferred out and they were for mental health reasons and money (OOS).

It sounds like your kid will absolutely love it as well based on your description. It is definitely a work hard/party hard atmosphere. He will have to work that much I can guarantee.

Both of my kids are very different, one introverted and one not at all. They both have found their groups and enjoy all aspects of the school from social to athletic to academics.

My brother attended and niece currently attends - they both love(d) it as well (OOS).

+1. And my UVA graduate loved his four years there and is not cocky

Have you seen your kid at work, or in the professional or social spheres, because some UVA grads are insufferable. DP here.

The ONLY reason I despise UVA and their graduates and will be extremely skeptical when hiring anyone from UVA is that most UVA grads I have met are indeed insufferable (suffers from delusions) unlike grads ofrom Michigan, Cal, UCLA, Illinois etc. whom I have met in the past 30 years or so.

Why is UIUC mentioned? Strange.

It’s also far superior in STEM as compared to UVA.

It’s far inferior to UVA overall. Doesn’t really matter where/if/when you get that CS degree from when most of the Espresso Royale Grainger Rangers crew I know dropped out to start their careers (and companies) anyway
Chambana sux

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Anonymous wrote:Mine is about to apply ED but I keep reading negative things online- competitiveness, unhappiness, etc. I can’t figure out if that is bc people online are negative or it’s actually something to be concerned about.

My child is a play hard/work (somewhat) hard kind of person. Ok with (and likely interested in) Greek life, loves rah rah sports, and schools with spirit. Makes friends easily. Loves Cville and what they have seen of UVA.

Other schools on the list are either likelies/safeties and maybe one or two other reach schools.

OP, your kid sounds like one who will likely enjoy UVA.

There are kids who don’t love it, though, and it’s possible to say that without being a parent of a kid who didn’t get in. In fact, those knee jerk comments are pretty indicative of the obnoxious stereotype that PP’s have alluded to. UVA has embodied the “we’re not snobs, we’re just better than you” vibe for a long, long time, and though I think they’re consciously trying to undo some of that, reputations can be hard to shake off.

- UVA alum and current employee who had a meh time there, whose kids don’t even want to go there, so no beef

+ this. I am an alum with one kid there. The motto used be “THE UNIVERSITY” (saying it was the only one that matters in VA). Love the school but the “we are better than you” vibe is a real thing that was very much ingrained in school slogans for a long time. I don’t know why posters are trying to deny that.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.

UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.

Being cocky is no problem. It is a problem when UVA grads start to believe (irrationally) that UVA is clearly better than Michigan, better than UCLA etc. and comparing and attacking other schools and acting superior to graduates of other equal or better schools. I noticed that you decided not to touch upon that issue and instead pretended to be all dumb... and throw out "what is wrong with displaying school spirit?" BS.

Outside of DCUM, UVA grads simply don’t feel this way. There’s an irrational hatred of UVA on this board, and I’m convinced it’s because it annoys the shit out of people because it’s so highly ranked and so much cheaper than privates and DCUM can’t get their kids in.

+1.

Sure, Jan. Many of our kids turned down UVA for better schools.

Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.

UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.

Being cocky is no problem. It is a problem when UVA grads start to believe (irrationally) that UVA is clearly better than Michigan, better than UCLA etc. and comparing and attacking other schools and acting superior to graduates of other equal or better schools. I noticed that you decided not to touch upon that issue and instead pretended to be all dumb... and throw out "what is wrong with displaying school spirit?" BS.

Outside of DCUM, UVA grads simply don’t feel this way. There’s an irrational hatred of UVA on this board, and I’m convinced it’s because it annoys the shit out of people because it’s so highly ranked and so much cheaper than privates and DCUM can’t get their kids in.

Um, the hatred is solely due to the utterly obnoxious, stuck up, incredibly clueless UVA boosters. How can you not get that? It's not like people just decided to hate on a perfectly down-to-earth school/student body/parents. As for your usual excuse - "your kid didn't get in" - many of our kids had absolutely no desire to apply to the place due to all of the above. Unfortunately, UVA's reputation precedes itself, and not in a good way.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget UVA grads constantly mocking UMDCP.

What is UMDCP? Univ of Maryland? What is the DCP?

Case in point. You are not funny or clever.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:I see thread after thread of people here attacking UVA here. It's not normal to be this obsessed with a school you didn't even attend.

UVA supporters attack schools they didn't attend all the time.

Exactly. They can't stand the thought that there are better schools than UVA, and schools that are much preferred. In fact, on most threads about other schools, the UVA booster will invariably pop up just a few posts in, to announce how "much better" UVA is than the school in question. It's insecurity at its most pronounced - just painful and cringeworthy.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in northern Virginia and none of my kids have gotten into UVA. I would LOVE for them to attend nearly for the price tag. Currently paying out of state tuition for 3 kids at $80k+ each. I get the jealousy on her and readily admit I am crazy jealous

Truth. Finally.

Wow... the sock puppetting is really something! Nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine is about to apply ED but I keep reading negative things online- competitiveness, unhappiness, etc. I can’t figure out if that is bc people online are negative or it’s actually something to be concerned about.

My child is a play hard/work (somewhat) hard kind of person. Ok with (and likely interested in) Greek life, loves rah rah sports, and schools with spirit. Makes friends easily. Loves Cville and what they have seen of UVA.

Other schools on the list are either likelies/safeties and maybe one or two other reach schools.

OP, your kid sounds like one who will likely enjoy UVA.

There are kids who don’t love it, though, and it’s possible to say that without being a parent of a kid who didn’t get in. In fact, those knee jerk comments are pretty indicative of the obnoxious stereotype that PP’s have alluded to. UVA has embodied the “we’re not snobs, we’re just better than you” vibe for a long, long time, and though I think they’re consciously trying to undo some of that, reputations can be hard to shake off.

- UVA alum and current employee who had a meh time there, whose kids don’t even want to go there, so no beef

+ this. I am an alum with one kid there. The motto used be “THE UNIVERSITY” (saying it was the only one that matters in VA). Love the school but the “we are better than you” vibe is a real thing that was very much ingrained in school slogans for a long time. I don’t know why posters are trying to deny that.

A) no one says that. I have a kid there.
B) Maybe it was once called The University of VA because that is its name, just like The Harvard Law School. https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/establishment-university-virginia/
C) You didn't go there.

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Any other schools rile people up as much as UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Mine is about to apply ED but I keep reading negative things online- competitiveness, unhappiness, etc. I can’t figure out if that is bc people online are negative or it’s actually something to be concerned about.

My child is a play hard/work (somewhat) hard kind of person. Ok with (and likely interested in) Greek life, loves rah rah sports, and schools with spirit. Makes friends easily. Loves Cville and what they have seen of UVA.

Other schools on the list are either likelies/safeties and maybe one or two other reach schools.

OP, your kid sounds like one who will likely enjoy UVA.

There are kids who don’t love it, though, and it’s possible to say that without being a parent of a kid who didn’t get in. In fact, those knee jerk comments are pretty indicative of the obnoxious stereotype that PP’s have alluded to. UVA has embodied the “we’re not snobs, we’re just better than you” vibe for a long, long time, and though I think they’re consciously trying to undo some of that, reputations can be hard to shake off.

- UVA alum and current employee who had a meh time there, whose kids don’t even want to go there, so no beef

+ this. I am an alum with one kid there. The motto used be “THE UNIVERSITY” (saying it was the only one that matters in VA). Love the school but the “we are better than you” vibe is a real thing that was very much ingrained in school slogans for a long time. I don’t know why posters are trying to deny that.

Is your kid happy there?

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Anonymous wrote:Mine is about to apply ED but I keep reading negative things online- competitiveness, unhappiness, etc. I can’t figure out if that is bc people online are negative or it’s actually something to be concerned about.

My child is a play hard/work (somewhat) hard kind of person. Ok with (and likely interested in) Greek life, loves rah rah sports, and schools with spirit. Makes friends easily. Loves Cville and what they have seen of UVA.

Other schools on the list are either likelies/safeties and maybe one or two other reach schools.

OP, your kid sounds like one who will likely enjoy UVA.

There are kids who don’t love it, though, and it’s possible to say that without being a parent of a kid who didn’t get in. In fact, those knee jerk comments are pretty indicative of the obnoxious stereotype that PP’s have alluded to. UVA has embodied the “we’re not snobs, we’re just better than you” vibe for a long, long time, and though I think they’re consciously trying to undo some of that, reputations can be hard to shake off.

- UVA alum and current employee who had a meh time there, whose kids don’t even want to go there, so no beef

+ this. I am an alum with one kid there. The motto used be “THE UNIVERSITY” (saying it was the only one that matters in VA). Love the school but the “we are better than you” vibe is a real thing that was very much ingrained in school slogans for a long time. I don’t know why posters are trying to deny that.

A) no one says that. I have a kid there.
B) Maybe it was once called The University of VA because that is its name, just like The Harvard Law School. https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/establishment-university-virginia/
C) You didn't go there.

This. At the time of establishment it was the (pronounced thuh not thee) university.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.

UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.

I totally agree with this. I went to Texas and exchange (Hook E'm) hand signs almost daily with others in DC that are wearing the gear. Make no mistake, UVA is a great school. It just does not have any cache out of the DMV area. It's sports are mediocre at best and while the school is ranked highly as public university, there are many public universities that have higher ranked majors in close distance to the DMV. Wisconsin, Michigan and Purdue to name a few.

All UVA boosters, be proud of your school - as you should be. I just find it ridiculous to shout down others that went to a different school.