MoCo 24-25 calendar feedback

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

+1. Coming back from break for a 2-day week is stupid.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two sample calendars were presented to the policy management committee today.

Sample A has school starting Aug. 26 and ending June 12.
Sample B has school starting Sept. 3 and ending June 20.

Both scenarios have winter break as Dec. 23 through Jan. 1, and spring break as Apr. 14 through 21.

These will be discussed by the full board at the Oct. 26 meeting.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/CWJSEU7245E0/$file/231016%202024-2025%20%20School%20Year%20Calendar%20-%20%20Memo%20to%20the%20Policy%20Management%20Committee.pdf

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/CWJSEQ7245AE/$file/231016%202024-2025%20%20School%20Year%20Calendar%20-%20SAMPLES%20A%20and%20B.pdf

B makes no sense with the breaks listed. Unless there are going to be more real breaks built no one wants to be in school until 6/20. Particularly not HS in advance classes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

NYC public schools are closed December 25-January 1 for winter recess in 2023-24. Not two weeks. I imagine they also have students with families overseas as we do here. Nearly everywhere in the world is able to be reached with a 10 day break and families also have plenty of opportunity to take extended trips during the summer. Did you ever think about immigrant or non-immigrant families who cannot afford to travel during the most expensive time of the year if at all and who face food insecurity and childcare difficulties with each day school is closed? I can tell you haven’t really thought this through and just want to insult me. You’re entitled to want a two week winter break. I don’t care whether it’s one week or two, I’m not even disagreeing with folks who have that preference. But no, everyone does not have the same preference as you regardless of what they do in other school systems. In other places they celebrate Halloween over the weekend and not on Oct. 31. Here we celebrate on Oct. 31. Every year someone asks or suggests that in their hometown it is different. And everyone explains that here it is on Oct. 31. That is literally all I was saying.

[Anonymous]

I think Option A looks pretty good, except that I think it's weird that the first semester is 10 days longer than the second semester (Q1, 46 days + Q2, 50 days = 96 for Sem 1; Q3, 44 days + Q4, 42 edays = 86 days for Sem 2). Semester 2 also loses so many days to testing (AP, MCAP, etc.). It seems like they could do a better job of balancing that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

NYC public schools are closed December 25-January 1 for winter recess in 2023-24. Not two weeks. I imagine they also have students with families overseas as we do here. Nearly everywhere in the world is able to be reached with a 10 day break and families also have plenty of opportunity to take extended trips during the summer. Did you ever think about immigrant or non-immigrant families who cannot afford to travel during the most expensive time of the year if at all and who face food insecurity and childcare difficulties with each day school is closed? I can tell you haven’t really thought this through and just want to insult me. You’re entitled to want a two week winter break. I don’t care whether it’s one week or two, I’m not even disagreeing with folks who have that preference. But no, everyone does not have the same preference as you regardless of what they do in other school systems. In other places they celebrate Halloween over the weekend and not on Oct. 31. Here we celebrate on Oct. 31. Every year someone asks or suggests that in their hometown it is different. And everyone explains that here it is on Oct. 31. That is literally all I was saying.

Please. You reference moving to Ohio as a clear pejorative comment. All Maryland schools have to have exactly the same number of school days, so families dealing with food insecurity and childcare difficulties will need support with programs to help, whether in be two full weeks at WINTER BREAK or a longer time during Summer break. Give us a break.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

NYC public schools are closed December 25-January 1 for winter recess in 2023-24. Not two weeks. I imagine they also have students with families overseas as we do here. Nearly everywhere in the world is able to be reached with a 10 day break and families also have plenty of opportunity to take extended trips during the summer. Did you ever think about immigrant or non-immigrant families who cannot afford to travel during the most expensive time of the year if at all and who face food insecurity and childcare difficulties with each day school is closed? I can tell you haven’t really thought this through and just want to insult me. You’re entitled to want a two week winter break. I don’t care whether it’s one week or two, I’m not even disagreeing with folks who have that preference. But no, everyone does not have the same preference as you regardless of what they do in other school systems. In other places they celebrate Halloween over the weekend and not on Oct. 31. Here we celebrate on Oct. 31. Every year someone asks or suggests that in their hometown it is different. And everyone explains that here it is on Oct. 31. That is literally all I was saying.

Please. You reference moving to Ohio as a clear pejorative comment. All Maryland schools have to have exactly the same number of school days, so families dealing with food insecurity and childcare difficulties will need support with programs to help, whether in be two full weeks at WINTER BREAK or a longer time during Summer break. Give us a break.

You tell me. Is it easier to figure out childcare when there are camps and everything is open all summer or is it easier to cobble it together for a few days in the middle of winter when many folks are traveling, after care centers are closed a number of days, parents may not have two full weeks off, and people nationwide generally report being financially stretched thin due to holiday and year end expenditures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to start after labor day and end before memorial day. Plenty of time to get 180 instruction days in then.

Me too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Option A looks pretty good, except that I think it's weird that the first semester is 10 days longer than the second semester (Q1, 46 days + Q2, 50 days = 96 for Sem 1; Q3, 44 days + Q4, 42 edays = 86 days for Sem 2). Semester 2 also loses so many days to testing (AP, MCAP, etc.). It seems like they could do a better job of balancing that.

Good point. Seems like they could have the first semester end a few days earlier to make it more even.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Option A looks pretty good, except that I think it's weird that the first semester is 10 days longer than the second semester (Q1, 46 days + Q2, 50 days = 96 for Sem 1; Q3, 44 days + Q4, 42 edays = 86 days for Sem 2). Semester 2 also loses so many days to testing (AP, MCAP, etc.). It seems like they could do a better job of balancing that.

Good point. Seems like they could have the first semester end a few days earlier to make it more even.

Adding Jan. 2 and 3 to winter break would also help with this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

NYC public schools are closed December 25-January 1 for winter recess in 2023-24. Not two weeks. I imagine they also have students with families overseas as we do here. Nearly everywhere in the world is able to be reached with a 10 day break and families also have plenty of opportunity to take extended trips during the summer. Did you ever think about immigrant or non-immigrant families who cannot afford to travel during the most expensive time of the year if at all and who face food insecurity and childcare difficulties with each day school is closed? I can tell you haven’t really thought this through and just want to insult me. You’re entitled to want a two week winter break. I don’t care whether it’s one week or two, I’m not even disagreeing with folks who have that preference. But no, everyone does not have the same preference as you regardless of what they do in other school systems. In other places they celebrate Halloween over the weekend and not on Oct. 31. Here we celebrate on Oct. 31. Every year someone asks or suggests that in their hometown it is different. And everyone explains that here it is on Oct. 31. That is literally all I was saying.

Please. You reference moving to Ohio as a clear pejorative comment. All Maryland schools have to have exactly the same number of school days, so families dealing with food insecurity and childcare difficulties will need support with programs to help, whether in be two full weeks at WINTER BREAK or a longer time during Summer break. Give us a break.

You tell me. Is it easier to figure out childcare when there are camps and everything is open all summer or is it easier to cobble it together for a few days in the middle of winter when many folks are traveling, after care centers are closed a number of days, parents may not have two full weeks off, and people nationwide generally report being financially stretched thin due to holiday and year end expenditures.

When I lived in NYC, it was two full weeks. Sorry I didn't bother to check another school district's calendar this year. Everyone else I know around the country currently has two full weeks. What makes you think people who are food insecure can afford camp or summer daycare? You're the one who hasn't really thought this through and seriously, you're so hostile for no apparent reason. Seems like a definite you problem. Also, it's actually easier to find winter childcare because families are in town. People are off work. No one else is off in summer to help.

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

NYC public schools are closed December 25-January 1 for winter recess in 2023-24. Not two weeks. I imagine they also have students with families overseas as we do here. Nearly everywhere in the world is able to be reached with a 10 day break and families also have plenty of opportunity to take extended trips during the summer. Did you ever think about immigrant or non-immigrant families who cannot afford to travel during the most expensive time of the year if at all and who face food insecurity and childcare difficulties with each day school is closed? I can tell you haven’t really thought this through and just want to insult me. You’re entitled to want a two week winter break. I don’t care whether it’s one week or two, I’m not even disagreeing with folks who have that preference. But no, everyone does not have the same preference as you regardless of what they do in other school systems. In other places they celebrate Halloween over the weekend and not on Oct. 31. Here we celebrate on Oct. 31. Every year someone asks or suggests that in their hometown it is different. And everyone explains that here it is on Oct. 31. That is literally all I was saying.

Please. You reference moving to Ohio as a clear pejorative comment. All Maryland schools have to have exactly the same number of school days, so families dealing with food insecurity and childcare difficulties will need support with programs to help, whether in be two full weeks at WINTER BREAK or a longer time during Summer break. Give us a break.

You tell me. Is it easier to figure out childcare when there are camps and everything is open all summer or is it easier to cobble it together for a few days in the middle of winter when many folks are traveling, after care centers are closed a number of days, parents may not have two full weeks off, and people nationwide generally report being financially stretched thin due to holiday and year end expenditures.

When I lived in NYC, it was two full weeks. Sorry I didn't bother to check another school district's calendar this year. Everyone else I know around the country currently has two full weeks. What makes you think people who are food insecure can afford camp or summer daycare? You're the one who hasn't really thought this through and seriously, you're so hostile for no apparent reason. Seems like a definite you problem. Also, it's actually easier to find winter childcare because families are in town. People are off work. No one else is off in summer to help.

-you’ve called my tone nasty even when I clarified it was not my intent and if it was read that way it was a misinterpretation
-you’ve called me rude
-you’ve said you’re glad posters ganged up and called me out
-you’ve said my opinions are a “you problem”
-you’ve called a point I made lame

I’ve not attacked you or derided you a single time, in fact I have validated that you are entitled to your opinion. But I’m the one who’s “so hostile?”

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Anonymous wrote:It'd be nice if Christmas break was a full two weeks like practically every other school in the entire country.

It has never been two weeks around here; also we call it winter break. Feel free to move back to Ohio if it’s important to you.

That’s a pretty nasty reply. Many of us would like two weeks to see family or go on a real vacation with our kids.

Signed - a non Christian who would love 2 weeks of family time when things are slow everywhere

You read it as nasty but it wasn’t intended that way. People always get so offended by matter-of-fact statements on this site. You can’t see family during the 10 days off? You can’t take a “real vacation” during that time? I hear that you would like more time. However, they have done lots of polling and while people would like a two week long winter break, they don’t want to start earlier or end later in order to make it happen. As I said, if it’s important to you then you are free to move somewhere else that has a two week winter break. You all seem to think that’s most places, so you have choices. Doesn’t need to just be Ohio.

No one “read it” as nasty. It simply was. I’m the person you replied to and it’s hilarious bc I don’t even celebrate Christmas-I’m Jewish. I absent mindedly typed that because everyone around here seems to call it Christmas break. You are still rude and I’m glad everyone else called you out for it. No one needs to move just because we aren’t getting what we want. We’re not immature children. If that’s your solution to everything, you have some growing up to do. I’m from NYC, thanks, but to try and use Ohio as an insult is also equally lame. Have you ever stopped to think about the immigrant population in Montgomery County? Maybe people would like more time to visit their family overseas during holidays without having to move. Grow up.

NYC public schools are closed December 25-January 1 for winter recess in 2023-24. Not two weeks. I imagine they also have students with families overseas as we do here. Nearly everywhere in the world is able to be reached with a 10 day break and families also have plenty of opportunity to take extended trips during the summer. Did you ever think about immigrant or non-immigrant families who cannot afford to travel during the most expensive time of the year if at all and who face food insecurity and childcare difficulties with each day school is closed? I can tell you haven’t really thought this through and just want to insult me. You’re entitled to want a two week winter break. I don’t care whether it’s one week or two, I’m not even disagreeing with folks who have that preference. But no, everyone does not have the same preference as you regardless of what they do in other school systems. In other places they celebrate Halloween over the weekend and not on Oct. 31. Here we celebrate on Oct. 31. Every year someone asks or suggests that in their hometown it is different. And everyone explains that here it is on Oct. 31. That is literally all I was saying.

Please. You reference moving to Ohio as a clear pejorative comment. All Maryland schools have to have exactly the same number of school days, so families dealing with food insecurity and childcare difficulties will need support with programs to help, whether in be two full weeks at WINTER BREAK or a longer time during Summer break. Give us a break.

You tell me. Is it easier to figure out childcare when there are camps and everything is open all summer or is it easier to cobble it together for a few days in the middle of winter when many folks are traveling, after care centers are closed a number of days, parents may not have two full weeks off, and people nationwide generally report being financially stretched thin due to holiday and year end expenditures.

When I lived in NYC, it was two full weeks. Sorry I didn't bother to check another school district's calendar this year. Everyone else I know around the country currently has two full weeks. What makes you think people who are food insecure can afford camp or summer daycare? You're the one who hasn't really thought this through and seriously, you're so hostile for no apparent reason. Seems like a definite you problem. Also, it's actually easier to find winter childcare because families are in town. People are off work. No one else is off in summer to help.

DP. I'm from a different part of NY and it was really rare to have a full 2 weeks off at the holidays- presumably because we also had a week off in February.

That's nice that you can take 2 weeks off from work yourself or have family in town to help but that's awful presumptuous that it is common for most families. If the 2 week break is as common as you say then you'll have plenty of options to choose from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to start after labor day and end before memorial day. Plenty of time to get 180 instruction days in then.

but then teachers would get fewer vacation days during the year