Fights at QO

Anonymous
Looks like the football player that stopped the fight has taken him under his wing. That's a great outcome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the football player that stopped the fight has taken him under his wing. That's a great outcome.


Must be nice in fantasy land if you think there was a positive outcome or any lasting changes made. There isn't just one autistic kid at the school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the football player that stopped the fight has taken him under his wing. That's a great outcome.


Must be nice in fantasy land if you think there was a positive outcome or any lasting changes made. There isn't just one autistic kid at the school.


I’m talking about 2 individuals.

But sure you are welcome to catastrophize the whole world over 1 incident.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the football player that stopped the fight has taken him under his wing. That's a great outcome.


Must be nice in fantasy land if you think there was a positive outcome or any lasting changes made. There isn't just one autistic kid at the school.


I’m talking about 2 individuals.

But sure you are welcome to catastrophize the whole world over 1 incident.


Autistic kids are bullied and abused constantly in school because the board of education would rather spend a million dollars on a bus app than on protecting Autistic children.

But you're free to believe that a we all just witnessed a real life fairy tale where 1 special needs boy made a BFF through a freak act of violence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the football player that stopped the fight has taken him under his wing. That's a great outcome.


Must be nice in fantasy land if you think there was a positive outcome or any lasting changes made. There isn't just one autistic kid at the school.


I’m talking about 2 individuals.

But sure you are welcome to catastrophize the whole world over 1 incident.


Autistic kids are bullied and abused constantly in school because the board of education would rather spend a million dollars on a bus app than on protecting Autistic children.

But you're free to believe that a we all just witnessed a real life fairy tale where 1 special needs boy made a BFF through a freak act of violence.


But a boy did make friend … it’s not a fantasy.
Anonymous
I was hoping the assault going viral would trigger the school to make some meaningful changes and found the Dog and Pony show disappointing.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.

Exactly. As the parent of an autistic child in gen Ed classes, it’s offensive that people think that autism = no agency, whatsoever. I have no idea what happened between the two kids in the video. Maybe they were both to blame, maybe only one was. I don’t want my child to have to wear a scarlet letter to announce to everyone that dc has autism and, therefore, must not be treated like everyone else. My child is odd and sometimes gets picked on, but is definitely capable of starting an argument and shouldn’t get to provoke others with impunity. (I’m not saying that’s what happened in the video, just pointing out that you can’t assume every child on the spectrum who says something rude is completely clueless and didn’t know better.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.

Exactly. As the parent of an autistic child in gen Ed classes, it’s offensive that people think that autism = no agency, whatsoever. I have no idea what happened between the two kids in the video. Maybe they were both to blame, maybe only one was. I don’t want my child to have to wear a scarlet letter to announce to everyone that dc has autism and, therefore, must not be treated like everyone else. My child is odd and sometimes gets picked on, but is definitely capable of starting an argument and shouldn’t get to provoke others with impunity. (I’m not saying that’s what happened in the video, just pointing out that you can’t assume every child on the spectrum who says something rude is completely clueless and didn’t know better.)


Learn to be a better advocate for your child. Your child gets picked on because of a disability they can't control but thank God the neighbors don't know they're autistic. Great work.
Your child isn't odd. It's odd that society is learning to accept all different types of people except those with special needs. That's odd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Saw the video of the QO incident . What gives me hope is students broke it up


Yes, this. QO has a great student population. Good school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.

This may be the result the autism spectrum being overly broad, but I assure you that if my autistic child said something incendiary enough that someone else started punching them (as opposed to punches being thrown completely at random), my child would most likely know exactly why they were being punched. I have no idea what was going through the minds of the boys in the video, but I know you are incorrect to assume that you know a particular person’s skill set just because you know they have an ASD diagnosis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.

This may be the result the autism spectrum being overly broad, but I assure you that if my autistic child said something incendiary enough that someone else started punching them (as opposed to punches being thrown completely at random), my child would most likely know exactly why they were being punched. I have no idea what was going through the minds of the boys in the video, but I know you are incorrect to assume that you know a particular person’s skill set just because you know they have an ASD diagnosis.


No. The student is in the Asperger's program which is difficult to gain admittance to. He would have to show a great need to be in the program including great social skill deficiency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.

This may be the result the autism spectrum being overly broad, but I assure you that if my autistic child said something incendiary enough that someone else started punching them (as opposed to punches being thrown completely at random), my child would most likely know exactly why they were being punched. I have no idea what was going through the minds of the boys in the video, but I know you are incorrect to assume that you know a particular person’s skill set just because you know they have an ASD diagnosis.


No. The student is in the Asperger's program which is difficult to gain admittance to. He would have to show a great need to be in the program including great social skill deficiency.

I really don’t like how much information is being disclosed publicly about one particular student. He doesn’t deserve to have a spotlight on him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.

This may be the result the autism spectrum being overly broad, but I assure you that if my autistic child said something incendiary enough that someone else started punching them (as opposed to punches being thrown completely at random), my child would most likely know exactly why they were being punched. I have no idea what was going through the minds of the boys in the video, but I know you are incorrect to assume that you know a particular person’s skill set just because you know they have an ASD diagnosis.


No. The student is in the Asperger's program which is difficult to gain admittance to. He would have to show a great need to be in the program including great social skill deficiency.

I really don’t like how much information is being disclosed publicly about one particular student. He doesn’t deserve to have a spotlight on him.


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