Fights at QO

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Anonymous wrote:The student in question has been on social media talking about, too. I think it's great he's speaking up for himself.


And his father has been talking to the media as well.


Not ok as well.


It's OK in USA where individuals have fundamental rights.

"Legal" and "OK" are very different things.


It's not OK, it's great that people have the ability to voice their opinions publicly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The student in question has been on social media talking about, too. I think it's great he's speaking up for himself.


And his father has been talking to the media as well.


Not ok as well.


It's OK in USA where individuals have fundamental rights.

"Legal" and "OK" are very different things.


It's not OK, it's great that people have the ability to voice their opinions publicly.

Sure, I love the first amendment, too. But sometimes discretion is the better option. Or even an OK one.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.







You know who else has trouble regulating emotions? Anyone who throws a punch for non-profit motive or in pursuit of a rational goal.
Plenty of people are in prison or dead because their parents weren't rich enough to get them a diagnosis before the police got to them first.

Having a specific diagnosis doesn't mean that no one without a specific diagnosis has mental issues, nor is it a justification to start a fight.


Child find is a free program in Montgomery County that diagnosis autism. Doctors make referrals as well. Everyone should be excused of criminal behavior because they might be disadvantaged ain't it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video I saw didn’t involve anyone getting “punched out.” Perhaps there’s a longer version I didn’t see?

I assume the football player holding the other end of the banner is the other student who was involved in the altercation? The principal is treating this like two kids who got into a fight are taking responsibility for their actions, have worked out some understanding, and no longer have a beef. Everyone else is exploiting the fact that (allegedly) one of the students has autism. I’m the parent of a high school student who is on the spectrum. It feels to me like posters who keep bringing up autism have their own agenda.


+1 Kids with autism can still start fights. I don't know what happened in that video, except that it starts mid-fight and both kids get some licks in, but it would be ludicious to assume that a child with autism could not have possibly been an equal party to a conflict, or that any conflict that involves a student on the spectrum is "bullying."

Autistic kids are kids. Sometimes kids get into fights that are not bullying. Therefore, by the transitive property, sometimes autistic kids get into fights that are not bullying.


Parent of autistic children here. You dont get it and are reinforcing my point.

Autistics kids are not just kids. They are kids who lack insight into how things they say and do will be perceived by others. Thats the crux of the disability. An autistic kid "starting a fight" implies they have the ability to know that what they are saying or doing will provoke the other person. They do not.

On top of that, they lack the ability to regulate their emotions. So when they are provoked by another person they are not prepared to "debug" which is a de-escalation strategy taught elementary age students. They have an extremely difficult time learning how not to provoke people, how to not be provoked or they learn to be quiet and limit interactions with other people.







You know who else has trouble regulating emotions? Anyone who throws a punch for non-profit motive or in pursuit of a rational goal.
Plenty of people are in prison or dead because their parents weren't rich enough to get them a diagnosis before the police got to them first.

Having a specific diagnosis doesn't mean that no one without a specific diagnosis has mental issues, nor is it a justification to start a fight.


Child find is a free program in Montgomery County that diagnosis autism. Doctors make referrals as well. Everyone should be excused of criminal behavior because they might be disadvantaged ain't it.


Hmm? What are you responding to?
Anonymous
Teachers should quit if they don't like being assaulted by students and admin.
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