Leaked training shows teachers being directed to allow gender & name changes without parent consent, transitioning?

[Anonymous]

Call me whatever you want. Just don't call me late to dinner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Call me whatever you want. Just don't call me late to dinner.

call me maybe

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 41 year old male, graduated from Woodson high school class of 1999, not once did I hear a teacher teach us pronouns, not once did I have a teacher tells us about their sexuality or what they did in the bedroom….:
My DS is a freshman and his teacher told the class that he went on a cruise with his husband doing summer break, everyone loord at my son weird because he laughed when the teacher said husband….

Your son was very rude. He can be anti-gay all he wants in his head, but he cannot express any antipathy out loud.


But I hope you're a troll.

People have freedom to be jerks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a huge time waster. Just call the kid whatever is on the school record. If the kid complains, send a note home to the parent about how to change it. And that's it. No more thought required.

what a waste of time for the teacher THAT would be!

if jonathan wants to be called jon, call him jon.
if margaret wants to be called peggy, ok!
if julie wants to be called jo -- yes!
if mark wants to be called may, ok!

why do the teachers have to ask the parents?!?! call the kid the name they want!!

A boy in DC's class wanted teacher to call him using a different name, which is also a male's name, when the teacher asked the class to let her know if any students wanted her to use a different name or pronouns and not let the parents know. The teacher refused. It's still a boy's name. FCPS made this policy for a specific purpose, not to help students figuring out their identity generally.

Lol. My cousin told me that another kid in their class said that the teacher said I'm not going to call you any name at all and don't tell the parents. Do you listen to yourself?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems like a huge time waster. Just call the kid whatever is on the school record. If the kid complains, send a note home to the parent about how to change it. And that's it. No more thought required.

what a waste of time for the teacher THAT would be!

if jonathan wants to be called jon, call him jon.
if margaret wants to be called peggy, ok!
if julie wants to be called jo -- yes!
if mark wants to be called may, ok!

why do the teachers have to ask the parents?!?! call the kid the name they want!!

A boy in DC's class wanted teacher to call him using a different name, which is also a male's name, when the teacher asked the class to let her know if any students wanted her to use a different name or pronouns and not let the parents know. The teacher refused. It's still a boy's name. FCPS made this policy for a specific purpose, not to help students figuring out their identity generally.

Lol. My cousin told me that another kid in their class said that the teacher said I'm not going to call you any name at all and don't tell the parents. Do you listen to yourself?

I think the only teens our SB and Superintendent know are the ones who are LGBTQ.
They must not know any teen boys who get a kick out of pushing buttons.

Just give them all numbers and be done with it, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are learning about your child’s gender or sexual orientation from school instead of from your child, you have failed as a parent.

Instead of taking your anger out by bullying teachers, consider channeling that energy into family counseling. With real therapist. Not a religious leader or church recommend counselor.

Say that louder for the people in the back. Can you imagine being so afraid of your parents' disapproval that you keep them in the dark about something like this? Your kid's name change is the least of your problems.

Kids who are terminally online are told to expect their parents to be unsupportive. Any questioning by a parent can be seen as a rejection. I think you’re misunderstanding the messaging kids are getting today if you think their reluctance to share these feelings with a parent is strictly a result of something the parents did or didn’t do.

Parents who allow their kids to be terminally online need to make some adjustments and talk to their kids.

You can and should regulate your kids internet usage. But kids are getting hugely misleading messaging on the whole trans subjects from adults who absorb this nonsense. BTW it’s mostly girls falling victim, not boys, although they certainly get some bad messaging too. It all stems from puberty. It’s harder on girls than boys and it’s always been an uncomfortable process. When we were kids we got an assurance that everything was normal, if unpleasant, and maybe a doctors appointment and a prescription for birth control from a particularly sympathetic mom if our young periods were really causing a lot of problems. Now, a girl who expresses discomfort around puberty is automatically bombarded with “could you be trans???” Messages from not just other kids, but adults too, who have absorbed the message of “anyone who is vaguely uncomfortable with their changing body is uncomfortable from a standpoint of gender dysphoria and if you question it you’re a bigot.” And it needs to be pushed back on because 1) it’s not mentally healthy and 2) some of the changes aren’t permanent, like using a different name or pronouns or dressing in a certain way and a kid will look back on it in their mid-20s and laugh at a cringe phase, but some of them DO have long lasting effects even if a kid later decides they aren’t trans at all.

It’s concerning. Girls are basically deciding it’s so unpleasant to be a woman that they’re going to try anything they can NOT to be one.

Wow. In what universe is this happening? Let's just play make believe and pretend like all the girls are trying to escape their fate. In this make believe world, shouldn't the adults get their s$% together and make the world an amazing place to be a woman?

Definitely! It would be truly revolutionary and amazing if we could make the world an amazing place for women! But it never has been and won’t become such a world in the foreseeable future. So, for now, let the adults talk about rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD) which, yes, primarily impacts young girls. Do none of you even know any children?

Isn't this exceptionally rare?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ev...er-dysphoria-claims/

It’s actually a bit hard to tell, as the research is being buried. https://unherd.com/2023/05/why-is-my-gender-research-being-cancelled/ Sorry, it won’t let me post an Archived version.

[Anonymous]

16:36 here. Formatted wrong.

That article is spot on. They are brainwashing the kids and gaslighting the parents.

This is not about Gay pride,etc. There have always been gays in the closet and that was wrong. This transgender thing is different.
It isseriously damaging our kids and society.

What adults do is up to them--but it is not normal.

[Anonymous]

cont. Look what they have done to J.K. Rowling--all she has said is this should not be done to children and she has been demonized and ostracized.

And, she is right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m 41 year old male, graduated from Woodson high school class of 1999, not once did I hear a teacher teach us pronouns, not once did I have a teacher tells us about their sexuality or what they did in the bedroom….:
My DS is a freshman and his teacher told the class that he went on a cruise with his husband doing summer break, everyone loord at my son weird because he laughed when the teacher said husband….

They looked at your son weird because he IS weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Recently leaked FCPS training documents reveal a policy that suggests withholding information about gender and name changes from parents. While the intention might be to respect students' choices, I find it deeply unsettling that parental involvement could potentially be overlooked.

What adds to my concern is that this approach appears to directly conflict with the guidelines laid out by the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE). According to VDOE, parental consent is a critical aspect of any gender change decision for students. This discrepancy between FCPS's approach and state regulations is disconcerting and should be addressed promptly.

In light of this situation, I strongly urge FCPS to reassess its training approach and align it with VDOE laws. Furthermore, I believe it's important for the school system to take proactive steps in educating parents about social issues. By fostering open dialogues and providing resources, we can ensure that parents are well-informed and involved in their children's lives while respecting students' autonomy.

Let's come together as a community to voice our concerns and advocate for a more balanced and respectful approach that upholds both student privacy and parental rights.

https://wjla.com/news/local/glenn-youngkin-sl...n-2603-jason-miyares


"New training materials for teachers in Fairfax County Public Schools show students can change their name and pronouns on school documents without parental consent. The documents obtained by Fox News show slides instructing teachers to allow students to change their pronouns in class, on official records, and use locker rooms and bathrooms in line with their chosen gender.

"Students will receive diplomas and transcripts with both the legal and chosen name," according to one slide. "Parental permission is not required" is listed directly underneath the bullet."

I've seen it said here and I agree . . . . this should be student led, not parent led. If the student is not telling their parents, there is a reason for that. And not a good one. Simple disagreement, assuming the best of intentions, should not be good enough to override the child's wishes.

I appreciate your viewpoint, but I strongly believe that parents should always be involved in their children's major decisions, unless they are deemed unfit by proper legal processes. Parents are crucial figures in their children's lives, and their guidance and support play a pivotal role in their development.

While it's important to respect a student's autonomy and privacy, completely sidelining parents from critical decisions can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. If there are genuine concerns about a parent's ability to provide a safe and supportive environment, schools have the responsibility to raise those concerns with the appropriate authorities. Until such a determination is made, however, it's essential to ensure that parents are kept informed and involved in their children's lives.

A balanced approach that respects the rights of both parents and students is vital for creating a harmonious and supportive educational environment. Let's remember that collaboration between schools and parents can lead to the best outcomes for our children's well-being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recently leaked FCPS training documents reveal a policy that suggests withholding information about gender and name changes from parents. While the intention might be to respect students' choices, I find it deeply unsettling that parental involvement could potentially be overlooked.

What adds to my concern is that this approach appears to directly conflict with the guidelines laid out by the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE). According to VDOE, parental consent is a critical aspect of any gender change decision for students. This discrepancy between FCPS's approach and state regulations is disconcerting and should be addressed promptly.

In light of this situation, I strongly urge FCPS to reassess its training approach and align it with VDOE laws. Furthermore, I believe it's important for the school system to take proactive steps in educating parents about social issues. By fostering open dialogues and providing resources, we can ensure that parents are well-informed and involved in their children's lives while respecting students' autonomy.

Let's come together as a community to voice our concerns and advocate for a more balanced and respectful approach that upholds both student privacy and parental rights.

https://wjla.com/news/local/glenn-youngkin-sl...n-2603-jason-miyares


"New training materials for teachers in Fairfax County Public Schools show students can change their name and pronouns on school documents without parental consent. The documents obtained by Fox News show slides instructing teachers to allow students to change their pronouns in class, on official records, and use locker rooms and bathrooms in line with their chosen gender.

"Students will receive diplomas and transcripts with both the legal and chosen name," according to one slide. "Parental permission is not required" is listed directly underneath the bullet."

I've seen it said here and I agree . . . . this should be student led, not parent led. If the student is not telling their parents, there is a reason for that. And not a good one. Simple disagreement, assuming the best of intentions, should not be good enough to override the child's wishes.

I appreciate your viewpoint, but I strongly believe that parents should always be involved in their children's major decisions, unless they are deemed unfit by proper legal processes. Parents are crucial figures in their children's lives, and their guidance and support play a pivotal role in their development.

While it's important to respect a student's autonomy and privacy, completely sidelining parents from critical decisions can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. If there are genuine concerns about a parent's ability to provide a safe and supportive environment, schools have the responsibility to raise those concerns with the appropriate authorities. Until such a determination is made, however, it's essential to ensure that parents are kept informed and involved in their children's lives.

A balanced approach that respects the rights of both parents and students is vital for creating a harmonious and supportive educational environment. Let's remember that collaboration between schools and parents can lead to the best outcomes for our children's well-being.

Wonder if it has occurred to these school "experts" that the parents may know what they are doing and be right.

And, I also wonder at what age does this policy kick in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m 41 year old male, graduated from Woodson high school class of 1999, not once did I hear a teacher teach us pronouns, not once did I have a teacher tells us about their sexuality or what they did in the bedroom….:
My DS is a freshman and his teacher told the class that he went on a cruise with his husband doing summer break, everyone loord at my son weird because he laughed when the teacher said husband….

They looked at your son weird because he IS weird.

How do you know the son is weird?

[Anonymous]

The kids are the responsibility of the parents. Find good private schools and abandon FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recently leaked FCPS training documents reveal a policy that suggests withholding information about gender and name changes from parents. While the intention might be to respect students' choices, I find it deeply unsettling that parental involvement could potentially be overlooked.

What adds to my concern is that this approach appears to directly conflict with the guidelines laid out by the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE). According to VDOE, parental consent is a critical aspect of any gender change decision for students. This discrepancy between FCPS's approach and state regulations is disconcerting and should be addressed promptly.

In light of this situation, I strongly urge FCPS to reassess its training approach and align it with VDOE laws. Furthermore, I believe it's important for the school system to take proactive steps in educating parents about social issues. By fostering open dialogues and providing resources, we can ensure that parents are well-informed and involved in their children's lives while respecting students' autonomy.

Let's come together as a community to voice our concerns and advocate for a more balanced and respectful approach that upholds both student privacy and parental rights.

https://wjla.com/news/local/glenn-youngkin-sl...n-2603-jason-miyares


"New training materials for teachers in Fairfax County Public Schools show students can change their name and pronouns on school documents without parental consent. The documents obtained by Fox News show slides instructing teachers to allow students to change their pronouns in class, on official records, and use locker rooms and bathrooms in line with their chosen gender.

"Students will receive diplomas and transcripts with both the legal and chosen name," according to one slide. "Parental permission is not required" is listed directly underneath the bullet."

I've seen it said here and I agree . . . . this should be student led, not parent led. If the student is not telling their parents, there is a reason for that. And not a good one. Simple disagreement, assuming the best of intentions, should not be good enough to override the child's wishes.

I appreciate your viewpoint, but I strongly believe that parents should always be involved in their children's major decisions, unless they are deemed unfit by proper legal processes. Parents are crucial figures in their children's lives, and their guidance and support play a pivotal role in their development.

While it's important to respect a student's autonomy and privacy, completely sidelining parents from critical decisions can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. If there are genuine concerns about a parent's ability to provide a safe and supportive environment, schools have the responsibility to raise those concerns with the appropriate authorities. Until such a determination is made, however, it's essential to ensure that parents are kept informed and involved in their children's lives.

A balanced approach that respects the rights of both parents and students is vital for creating a harmonious and supportive educational environment. Let's remember that collaboration between schools and parents can lead to the best outcomes for our children's well-being.

for me the dividing line is the official involvement of the school. if the child puts on mascara in the bathroom or has their friends call him a different name/gender - I don’t think the school needs to butt in without any additional evidence of a serious mental health issue. The school taking official steps to “affirm” the child is something that parents should know about (but perhaps not fully control). and if the child is getting mental health services at school, the same confidentiality should attach as for any other type of therapist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recently leaked FCPS training documents reveal a policy that suggests withholding information about gender and name changes from parents. While the intention might be to respect students' choices, I find it deeply unsettling that parental involvement could potentially be overlooked.

What adds to my concern is that this approach appears to directly conflict with the guidelines laid out by the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE). According to VDOE, parental consent is a critical aspect of any gender change decision for students. This discrepancy between FCPS's approach and state regulations is disconcerting and should be addressed promptly.

In light of this situation, I strongly urge FCPS to reassess its training approach and align it with VDOE laws. Furthermore, I believe it's important for the school system to take proactive steps in educating parents about social issues. By fostering open dialogues and providing resources, we can ensure that parents are well-informed and involved in their children's lives while respecting students' autonomy.

Let's come together as a community to voice our concerns and advocate for a more balanced and respectful approach that upholds both student privacy and parental rights.

https://wjla.com/news/local/glenn-youngkin-sl...n-2603-jason-miyares


"New training materials for teachers in Fairfax County Public Schools show students can change their name and pronouns on school documents without parental consent. The documents obtained by Fox News show slides instructing teachers to allow students to change their pronouns in class, on official records, and use locker rooms and bathrooms in line with their chosen gender.

"Students will receive diplomas and transcripts with both the legal and chosen name," according to one slide. "Parental permission is not required" is listed directly underneath the bullet."

I've seen it said here and I agree . . . . this should be student led, not parent led. If the student is not telling their parents, there is a reason for that. And not a good one. Simple disagreement, assuming the best of intentions, should not be good enough to override the child's wishes.

I appreciate your viewpoint, but I strongly believe that parents should always be involved in their children's major decisions, unless they are deemed unfit by proper legal processes. Parents are crucial figures in their children's lives, and their guidance and support play a pivotal role in their development.

While it's important to respect a student's autonomy and privacy, completely sidelining parents from critical decisions can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. If there are genuine concerns about a parent's ability to provide a safe and supportive environment, schools have the responsibility to raise those concerns with the appropriate authorities. Until such a determination is made, however, it's essential to ensure that parents are kept informed and involved in their children's lives.

A balanced approach that respects the rights of both parents and students is vital for creating a harmonious and supportive educational environment. Let's remember that collaboration between schools and parents can lead to the best outcomes for our children's well-being.

for me the dividing line is the official involvement of the school. if the child puts on mascara in the bathroom or has their friends call him a different name/gender - I don’t think the school needs to butt in without any additional evidence of a serious mental health issue. The school taking official steps to “affirm” the child is something that parents should know about (but perhaps not fully control). and if the child is getting mental health services at school, the same confidentiality should attach as for any other type of therapist.

Agree with this, a very rational approach. If it’s just something silly between the kids that’s one thing. But if a school employee gets involved in “affirming” anything I want to know about it.