Leaked training shows teachers being directed to allow gender & name changes without parent consent, transitioning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this helps other students as well. Like kids who prefer nicknames or want to use their middle name, yet their parents refuse.

I don't see the big deal about names. It's not a teacher burden.

What is a burden is the ze/hir/them/they/x pronouns that they expect teachers to remember.

The name stuff does not bother me so much but if my son’s teacher starts referring to him as a girl without notifying me, that is a big problem.

[Anonymous]

If your child is hiding their new name from you, the problem is not the school system's rules, the problem IS YOUR PARENTING.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren't teacher tired of dealing with the constant name changing? I can't even keep my friends' teens' new names straight any more. It must be exhausting.

Teachers are worried about so many things OTHER than this. Names are something that takes 5 seconds to write on the roll book. What teachers want is for parents to actually raise their children, support their children, and encourage their children to be good people who do their best. What name the children call themselves or gender presentation is down around "issue #578495" that teachers track daily.

Now, "irritating politically insane parents" are much higher on their list of things that are exhausting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recently leaked FCPS training documents reveal a policy that suggests withholding information about gender and name changes from parents. While the intention might be to respect students' choices, I find it deeply unsettling that parental involvement could potentially be overlooked.

What adds to my concern is that this approach appears to directly conflict with the guidelines laid out by the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE). According to VDOE, parental consent is a critical aspect of any gender change decision for students. This discrepancy between FCPS's approach and state regulations is disconcerting and should be addressed promptly.

In light of this situation, I strongly urge FCPS to reassess its training approach and align it with VDOE laws. Furthermore, I believe it's important for the school system to take proactive steps in educating parents about social issues. By fostering open dialogues and providing resources, we can ensure that parents are well-informed and involved in their children's lives while respecting students' autonomy.

Let's come together as a community to voice our concerns and advocate for a more balanced and respectful approach that upholds both student privacy and parental rights.

https://wjla.com/news/local/glenn-youngkin-slams-fairfax-county-school-policy-that-says-parental-participation-is-not-required-for-gender-transitions-michigan-regulation-2603-jason-miyares


"New training materials for teachers in Fairfax County Public Schools show students can change their name and pronouns on school documents without parental consent. The documents obtained by Fox News show slides instructing teachers to allow students to change their pronouns in class, on official records, and use locker rooms and bathrooms in line with their chosen gender.

"Students will receive diplomas and transcripts with both the legal and chosen name," according to one slide. "Parental permission is not required" is listed directly underneath the bullet."

I have been concerned with FCPS not following the new state guidance since Dr. Reid’s email.

State law allows counties to be more comprehensive than the guidance

"Each school board shall adopt policies that are consistent with but may be more comprehensive than the model policies developed by the Department of Education pursuant to subsection A"

Part of subsection A is "6. Protection of student privacy and the confidentiality of sensitive information;"

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter3/section22.1-23.3/

The state can sue, but they will lose because FCPS is following the law as written. If conservatives don't like it, then they can try to repeal the law

Comprehensive would mean that it would be required to meet the states rules and add more , so if fcps said consent of the parents plus other then it's ok. But they are amending not addendum so it's a big problem.

[Anonymous]

I’m 41 year old male, graduated from Woodson high school class of 1999, not once did I hear a teacher teach us pronouns, not once did I have a teacher tells us about their sexuality or what they did in the bedroom….:
My DS is a freshman and his teacher told the class that he went on a cruise with his husband doing summer break, everyone loord at my son weird because he laughed when the teacher said husband….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recently leaked FCPS training documents reveal a policy that suggests withholding information about gender and name changes from parents. While the intention might be to respect students' choices, I find it deeply unsettling that parental involvement could potentially be overlooked.

What adds to my concern is that this approach appears to directly conflict with the guidelines laid out by the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE). According to VDOE, parental consent is a critical aspect of any gender change decision for students. This discrepancy between FCPS's approach and state regulations is disconcerting and should be addressed promptly.

In light of this situation, I strongly urge FCPS to reassess its training approach and align it with VDOE laws. Furthermore, I believe it's important for the school system to take proactive steps in educating parents about social issues. By fostering open dialogues and providing resources, we can ensure that parents are well-informed and involved in their children's lives while respecting students' autonomy.

Let's come together as a community to voice our concerns and advocate for a more balanced and respectful approach that upholds both student privacy and parental rights.

https://wjla.com/news/local/glenn-youngkin-slams-fairfax-county-school-policy-that-says-parental-participation-is-not-required-for-gender-transitions-michigan-regulation-2603-jason-miyares


"New training materials for teachers in Fairfax County Public Schools show students can change their name and pronouns on school documents without parental consent. The documents obtained by Fox News show slides instructing teachers to allow students to change their pronouns in class, on official records, and use locker rooms and bathrooms in line with their chosen gender.

"Students will receive diplomas and transcripts with both the legal and chosen name," according to one slide. "Parental permission is not required" is listed directly underneath the bullet."

I have been concerned with FCPS not following the new state guidance since Dr. Reid’s email.

State law allows counties to be more comprehensive than the guidance

"Each school board shall adopt policies that are consistent with but may be more comprehensive than the model policies developed by the Department of Education pursuant to subsection A"

Part of subsection A is "6. Protection of student privacy and the confidentiality of sensitive information;"

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter3/section22.1-23.3/

The state can sue, but they will lose because FCPS is following the law as written. If conservatives don't like it, then they can try to repeal the law

Comprehensive would mean that it would be required to meet the states rules and add more , so if fcps said consent of the parents plus other then it's ok. But they are amending not addendum so it's a big problem.

The purpose of the law is to protect trans students. FCPS is going further than the state standards, as the law allows

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this helps other students as well. Like kids who prefer nicknames or want to use their middle name, yet their parents refuse.

I don't see the big deal about names. It's not a teacher burden.

What is a burden is the ze/hir/them/they/x pronouns that they expect teachers to remember.

The name stuff does not bother me so much but if my son’s teacher starts referring to him as a girl without notifying me, that is a big problem.

Why? If the child prononds are She/her/ why do we need to call home? did your child misbehaved? There no need to call home if there is nothing wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are learning about your child’s gender or sexual orientation from school instead of from your child, you have failed as a parent.

Instead of taking your anger out by bullying teachers, consider channeling that energy into family counseling. With real therapist. Not a religious leader or church recommend counselor.

Say that louder for the people in the back. Can you imagine being so afraid of your parents' disapproval that you keep them in the dark about something like this? Your kid's name change is the least of your problems.

Kids who are terminally online are told to expect their parents to be unsupportive. Any questioning by a parent can be seen as a rejection. I think you’re misunderstanding the messaging kids are getting today if you think their reluctance to share these feelings with a parent is strictly a result of something the parents did or didn’t do.

Parents who allow their kids to be terminally online need to make some adjustments and talk to their kids.

You can and should regulate your kids internet usage. But kids are getting hugely misleading messaging on the whole trans subjects from adults who absorb this nonsense. BTW it’s mostly girls falling victim, not boys, although they certainly get some bad messaging too. It all stems from puberty. It’s harder on girls than boys and it’s always been an uncomfortable process. When we were kids we got an assurance that everything was normal, if unpleasant, and maybe a doctors appointment and a prescription for birth control from a particularly sympathetic mom if our young periods were really causing a lot of problems. Now, a girl who expresses discomfort around puberty is automatically bombarded with “could you be trans???” Messages from not just other kids, but adults too, who have absorbed the message of “anyone who is vaguely uncomfortable with their changing body is uncomfortable from a standpoint of gender dysphoria and if you question it you’re a bigot.” And it needs to be pushed back on because 1) it’s not mentally healthy and 2) some of the changes aren’t permanent, like using a different name or pronouns or dressing in a certain way and a kid will look back on it in their mid-20s and laugh at a cringe phase, but some of them DO have long lasting effects even if a kid later decides they aren’t trans at all.

It’s concerning. Girls are basically deciding it’s so unpleasant to be a woman that they’re going to try anything they can NOT to be one.

[Anonymous]

Arent all the transphobes constantly saying to leave the children alone?

Why won't you take your own advice?! Leave the kids alone. Who cares if Sally wants to go by Sal? This really isn't something that teachers should be wasting their time on when they could be, y'know, teaching??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this helps other students as well. Like kids who prefer nicknames or want to use their middle name, yet their parents refuse.

I don't see the big deal about names. It's not a teacher burden.

What is a burden is the ze/hir/them/they/x pronouns that they expect teachers to remember.

The name stuff does not bother me so much but if my son’s teacher starts referring to him as a girl without notifying me, that is a big problem.

Why? If the child prononds are She/her/ why do we need to call home? did your child misbehaved? There no need to call home if there is nothing wrong.

God, you’re twisted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are learning about your child’s gender or sexual orientation from school instead of from your child, you have failed as a parent.

Instead of taking your anger out by bullying teachers, consider channeling that energy into family counseling. With real therapist. Not a religious leader or church recommend counselor.

Say that louder for the people in the back. Can you imagine being so afraid of your parents' disapproval that you keep them in the dark about something like this? Your kid's name change is the least of your problems.

Kids who are terminally online are told to expect their parents to be unsupportive. Any questioning by a parent can be seen as a rejection. I think you’re misunderstanding the messaging kids are getting today if you think their reluctance to share these feelings with a parent is strictly a result of something the parents did or didn’t do.

Parents who allow their kids to be terminally online need to make some adjustments and talk to their kids.

You can and should regulate your kids internet usage. But kids are getting hugely misleading messaging on the whole trans subjects from adults who absorb this nonsense. BTW it’s mostly girls falling victim, not boys, although they certainly get some bad messaging too. It all stems from puberty. It’s harder on girls than boys and it’s always been an uncomfortable process. When we were kids we got an assurance that everything was normal, if unpleasant, and maybe a doctors appointment and a prescription for birth control from a particularly sympathetic mom if our young periods were really causing a lot of problems. Now, a girl who expresses discomfort around puberty is automatically bombarded with “could you be trans???” Messages from not just other kids, but adults too, who have absorbed the message of “anyone who is vaguely uncomfortable with their changing body is uncomfortable from a standpoint of gender dysphoria and if you question it you’re a bigot.” And it needs to be pushed back on because 1) it’s not mentally healthy and 2) some of the changes aren’t permanent, like using a different name or pronouns or dressing in a certain way and a kid will look back on it in their mid-20s and laugh at a cringe phase, but some of them DO have long lasting effects even if a kid later decides they aren’t trans at all.

It’s concerning. Girls are basically deciding it’s so unpleasant to be a woman that they’re going to try anything they can NOT to be one.

This is not happening. It just isn't! You are being fed a lie by people with a very unpleasant agenda. Please put down your phone, turn off Fox News, and go for a walk with your daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are learning about your child’s gender or sexual orientation from school instead of from your child, you have failed as a parent.

Instead of taking your anger out by bullying teachers, consider channeling that energy into family counseling. With real therapist. Not a religious leader or church recommend counselor.

Say that louder for the people in the back. Can you imagine being so afraid of your parents' disapproval that you keep them in the dark about something like this? Your kid's name change is the least of your problems.

Kids who are terminally online are told to expect their parents to be unsupportive. Any questioning by a parent can be seen as a rejection. I think you’re misunderstanding the messaging kids are getting today if you think their reluctance to share these feelings with a parent is strictly a result of something the parents did or didn’t do.

Parents who allow their kids to be terminally online need to make some adjustments and talk to their kids.

You can and should regulate your kids internet usage. But kids are getting hugely misleading messaging on the whole trans subjects from adults who absorb this nonsense. BTW it’s mostly girls falling victim, not boys, although they certainly get some bad messaging too. It all stems from puberty. It’s harder on girls than boys and it’s always been an uncomfortable process. When we were kids we got an assurance that everything was normal, if unpleasant, and maybe a doctors appointment and a prescription for birth control from a particularly sympathetic mom if our young periods were really causing a lot of problems. Now, a girl who expresses discomfort around puberty is automatically bombarded with “could you be trans???” Messages from not just other kids, but adults too, who have absorbed the message of “anyone who is vaguely uncomfortable with their changing body is uncomfortable from a standpoint of gender dysphoria and if you question it you’re a bigot.” And it needs to be pushed back on because 1) it’s not mentally healthy and 2) some of the changes aren’t permanent, like using a different name or pronouns or dressing in a certain way and a kid will look back on it in their mid-20s and laugh at a cringe phase, but some of them DO have long lasting effects even if a kid later decides they aren’t trans at all.

It’s concerning. Girls are basically deciding it’s so unpleasant to be a woman that they’re going to try anything they can NOT to be one.

This is completely false lol. MTF is much more common than FTM.
And literally no one is saying all that garbage. You need turn off Fox news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are learning about your child’s gender or sexual orientation from school instead of from your child, you have failed as a parent.

Instead of taking your anger out by bullying teachers, consider channeling that energy into family counseling. With real therapist. Not a religious leader or church recommend counselor.

Say that louder for the people in the back. Can you imagine being so afraid of your parents' disapproval that you keep them in the dark about something like this? Your kid's name change is the least of your problems.

Kids who are terminally online are told to expect their parents to be unsupportive. Any questioning by a parent can be seen as a rejection. I think you’re misunderstanding the messaging kids are getting today if you think their reluctance to share these feelings with a parent is strictly a result of something the parents did or didn’t do.

Parents who allow their kids to be terminally online need to make some adjustments and talk to their kids.

You can and should regulate your kids internet usage. But kids are getting hugely misleading messaging on the whole trans subjects from adults who absorb this nonsense. BTW it’s mostly girls falling victim, not boys, although they certainly get some bad messaging too. It all stems from puberty. It’s harder on girls than boys and it’s always been an uncomfortable process. When we were kids we got an assurance that everything was normal, if unpleasant, and maybe a doctors appointment and a prescription for birth control from a particularly sympathetic mom if our young periods were really causing a lot of problems. Now, a girl who expresses discomfort around puberty is automatically bombarded with “could you be trans???” Messages from not just other kids, but adults too, who have absorbed the message of “anyone who is vaguely uncomfortable with their changing body is uncomfortable from a standpoint of gender dysphoria and if you question it you’re a bigot.” And it needs to be pushed back on because 1) it’s not mentally healthy and 2) some of the changes aren’t permanent, like using a different name or pronouns or dressing in a certain way and a kid will look back on it in their mid-20s and laugh at a cringe phase, but some of them DO have long lasting effects even if a kid later decides they aren’t trans at all.

It’s concerning. Girls are basically deciding it’s so unpleasant to be a woman that they’re going to try anything they can NOT to be one.

This is not happening. It just isn't! You are being fed a lie by people with a very unpleasant agenda. Please put down your phone, turn off Fox News, and go for a walk with your daughter.

Heh, jinx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this helps other students as well. Like kids who prefer nicknames or want to use their middle name, yet their parents refuse.

I don't see the big deal about names. It's not a teacher burden.

What is a burden is the ze/hir/them/they/x pronouns that they expect teachers to remember.

The name stuff does not bother me so much but if my son’s teacher starts referring to him as a girl without notifying me, that is a big problem.

Why? If the child prononds are She/her/ why do we need to call home? did your child misbehaved? There no need to call home if there is nothing wrong.

Why is the left so obsessed with shoving gender theory down children’s throats? Drag queen story time? Not notifying a parent if they start referring to them by the opposite sex? WTF. It’s crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are learning about your child’s gender or sexual orientation from school instead of from your child, you have failed as a parent.

Instead of taking your anger out by bullying teachers, consider channeling that energy into family counseling. With real therapist. Not a religious leader or church recommend counselor.

Say that louder for the people in the back. Can you imagine being so afraid of your parents' disapproval that you keep them in the dark about something like this? Your kid's name change is the least of your problems.

Kids who are terminally online are told to expect their parents to be unsupportive. Any questioning by a parent can be seen as a rejection. I think you’re misunderstanding the messaging kids are getting today if you think their reluctance to share these feelings with a parent is strictly a result of something the parents did or didn’t do.

Parents who allow their kids to be terminally online need to make some adjustments and talk to their kids.

You can and should regulate your kids internet usage. But kids are getting hugely misleading messaging on the whole trans subjects from adults who absorb this nonsense. BTW it’s mostly girls falling victim, not boys, although they certainly get some bad messaging too. It all stems from puberty. It’s harder on girls than boys and it’s always been an uncomfortable process. When we were kids we got an assurance that everything was normal, if unpleasant, and maybe a doctors appointment and a prescription for birth control from a particularly sympathetic mom if our young periods were really causing a lot of problems. Now, a girl who expresses discomfort around puberty is automatically bombarded with “could you be trans???” Messages from not just other kids, but adults too, who have absorbed the message of “anyone who is vaguely uncomfortable with their changing body is uncomfortable from a standpoint of gender dysphoria and if you question it you’re a bigot.” And it needs to be pushed back on because 1) it’s not mentally healthy and 2) some of the changes aren’t permanent, like using a different name or pronouns or dressing in a certain way and a kid will look back on it in their mid-20s and laugh at a cringe phase, but some of them DO have long lasting effects even if a kid later decides they aren’t trans at all.

It’s concerning. Girls are basically deciding it’s so unpleasant to be a woman that they’re going to try anything they can NOT to be one.

This is completely false lol. MTF is much more common than FTM.
And literally no one is saying all that garbage. You need turn off Fox news.

MTF is much more common overall but includes a lot more people who transition later in life. I have my own quibbles with that but not really relevant to this discussion. But ask teens who’s going around identifying as they/thems and it’s mostly girls.