Leaked training shows teachers being directed to allow gender & name changes without parent consent, transitioning?

[Anonymous]

Thanks, Asra. This was fun and everyone is all upset about nothing.
Did anyone actually look at OPs post? It’s from 2022. Someone just wanted to talk anger and hate for FCPS and transgender students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I SEE LITERALLY NOTHING ABOUT GENDER CHANGE ON THAT NAME. ARE YOU SAYING DANIEL NEEDS MOMMY'S PERMISSION TO GO BY DAN OR DANNY AT SCHOOL? ALEXIS IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE CALLED LEXI BECAUSE DADDY IS WORRIED BOYS WILL CALL HER SEXY LEXY???

OH NO!!! WHATEVER WILL WE DO!!!

Ever heard of nicknames? Dan and Danny are short for Daniel, and commonly used as its corresponding nicknames. Lexi, the same for Alexis. When hearing their kids called by those nicknames, any parent would realize they are referring to their kids. Of course, you already know that.

Now, if Daniel is called Ana or Jane in front of them; and Alexis John or Daniel, their parents would have no clue they are referring to their kids. That is deceiving, plain and simple. And when that happens, kids are being taught and encouraged to deceive/lie to their parents by the same people the parents entrust their kids to. What adult would be comfortable and consent to be a part of it? I certainly hope there are some courageous School staff refusing to do so.

Yes. The state guidance allows for the use of commonly used nicknames as you mentioned. What happens when Anh wants to be called Lily or Ye-jun wants to by called Johnny? They aren't commonly related to their first names and aren't in their official record. The school is going to have to get special permission from those parents?

It depends on if these nicknames develop a new persona, or if by assigning the student a sex marker different that the one registered at school (as per the birth certificate and the parents’ acknowledgement) these nicknames are creating a different individual altogether. If it’s the latter, parents definitely need to be involved. School staff has no business keeping parents in the dark.

How familiar are you with Sage’s Law?

Does the model policy make this distinction? It reads:
[School Division] personnel shall refer to each student using only (i) the name that appears in the student’s official record, or (ii) if the student prefers, using any nickname commonly associated with the name that appears in the student’s official record. Nothing in this policy shall prevent [School Division] personnel from using a different name for a student when it is necessary for the student’s
academic instruction, such as using a name more common in a foreign country while in a foreign-language course.

These guidelines seem to ban children with ethnic names from going by a chosen American name, unless their parents officially request that name it in writing. The practice of informally choosing an American name is a fairly common practice among many different ethnic groups.

I’m aware of that because my close friend’s daughters chose female American names when the began elementary school. Their mother helped them pick the nicknames. She was perfectly on board. And, since you seem to care so much about foreign students, why don’t you advocate for FCPS to ensure their ESL parents are aware about them disregarding the new model policies, and by so doing, keeping them in the dark?

Again, how familiar are you with Sage’s Law? Democrats killed the law even though they agreed with it. The 2023 Model Guidelines are designed to protect students who, like Sage, identify as transgender, as well as those who don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I SEE LITERALLY NOTHING ABOUT GENDER CHANGE ON THAT NAME. ARE YOU SAYING DANIEL NEEDS MOMMY'S PERMISSION TO GO BY DAN OR DANNY AT SCHOOL? ALEXIS IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE CALLED LEXI BECAUSE DADDY IS WORRIED BOYS WILL CALL HER SEXY LEXY???

OH NO!!! WHATEVER WILL WE DO!!!

Ever heard of nicknames? Dan and Danny are short for Daniel, and commonly used as its corresponding nicknames. Lexi, the same for Alexis. When hearing their kids called by those nicknames, any parent would realize they are referring to their kids. Of course, you already know that.

Now, if Daniel is called Ana or Jane in front of them; and Alexis John or Daniel, their parents would have no clue they are referring to their kids. That is deceiving, plain and simple. And when that happens, kids are being taught and encouraged to deceive/lie to their parents by the same people the parents entrust their kids to. What adult would be comfortable and consent to be a part of it? I certainly hope there are some courageous School staff refusing to do so.

Yes. The state guidance allows for the use of commonly used nicknames as you mentioned. What happens when Anh wants to be called Lily or Ye-jun wants to by called Johnny? They aren't commonly related to their first names and aren't in their official record. The school is going to have to get special permission from those parents?

It depends on if these nicknames develop a new persona, or if by assigning the student a sex marker different that the one registered at school (as per the birth certificate and the parents’ acknowledgement) these nicknames are creating a different individual altogether. If it’s the latter, parents definitely need to be involved. School staff has no business keeping parents in the dark.

How familiar are you with Sage’s Law?

Does the model policy make this distinction? It reads:
[School Division] personnel shall refer to each student using only (i) the name that appears in the student’s official record, or (ii) if the student prefers, using any nickname commonly associated with the name that appears in the student’s official record. Nothing in this policy shall prevent [School Division] personnel from using a different name for a student when it is necessary for the student’s
academic instruction, such as using a name more common in a foreign country while in a foreign-language course.

These guidelines seem to ban children with ethnic names from going by a chosen American name, unless their parents officially request that name it in writing. The practice of informally choosing an American name is a fairly common practice among many different ethnic groups.

I’m aware of that because my close friend’s daughters chose female American names when the began elementary school. Their mother helped them pick the nicknames. She was perfectly on board. And, since you seem to care so much about foreign students, why don’t you advocate for FCPS to ensure their ESL parents are aware about them disregarding the new model policies, and by so doing, keeping them in the dark?

Again, how familiar are you with Sage’s Law? Democrats killed the law even though they agreed with it. The 2023 Model Guidelines are designed to protect students who, like Sage, identify as transgender, as well as those who don’t.

Great! So now the teachers aren't allowed (per the model policy) to call those girls their chosen nicknames unless the parent has given permission and that permission is on file with the school. It's an unnecessary added burden on the school staff and is not in the same realm as transitioning gender addressed under Sage's Law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good! Public schools should focus on students, not parents. And I'm a parent of public school kids, btw.

Parents are the first educators and pay for education outside their homes. Therefore, public schools should respect/ honor students AND parents’ choices.

[Anonymous]

should I have to sign a permission slip for my child named John to be called Jack?

[Anonymous]

The school cannot give a child a Tylenol, but they can "affirm" their trans gender?

Exactly. Even the most basic OTC medication requires multi-step authorization (https://fairfaxhs.fcps.edu/resources/clinic). So everyone is fine with requiring parental authorization for a kid to take an Advil, but not to socially transition?