Rethinking Maui next year due to fires

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Anonymous wrote:Next year is probably a great time to go. Most stuff will be rebuilt but tourists won't be in the same volume due to postponing trips.

No, most stuff will likely not be rebuilt by next year. An entire town with almost 2000 structures was decimated. It will take years for Lahaina to rebuild. it's an island, getting supplies and workers there to rebuild the infrastructure will take time

Carribean islands frequently hit by hurricane and nearly oblitered bounce back quickly so there's no reason why HI won't rebuild quickly, especially Lahaina, and HI has the advantage of US funding (unlike the carribean Islands who don't but still manage to re-open).

Do you understand how much farther away Hawaii is? I hope they take a beat and do it in a thoughtful way, but the probably won’t. Also they should have let their feral goats eat those non native grasses instead of shooting them all.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

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Anonymous wrote:Next year is probably a great time to go. Most stuff will be rebuilt but tourists won't be in the same volume due to postponing trips.

No, most stuff will likely not be rebuilt by next year. An entire town with almost 2000 structures was decimated. It will take years for Lahaina to rebuild. it's an island, getting supplies and workers there to rebuild the infrastructure will take time

In addition, the big resorts around Kaanapali are going to be less convenient. The main road road from the airport to the West side of the island goes around the southern side of the West part of the island. That road goes right through the burned out part near Lahaina and likely that road is going to become the main route for all supplies for rebuilding the West side of the island. Traffic along the south side will be bad for the next few years. If you want to try to get to/from the airport, the aquarium the road to Hana and many of the other attractions on the island of Maui, traffic is likely going to have to push up to the smaller northern route which takes twice as long to get back to the airport in the center of the island. Unless you plan to stay only in the resort (which some will do), the West side is not going to be as attractive a destination as it was for several years.

One option might be for the big resorts to go to 50% capacity next year. They will need housing for workers and can use half their rooms for that and it will minimize the burden on the roads, etc. this is a dumb question but was the Costco destroyed? Costco is really central for Hawaiins.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

I wonder how they count that. I had two good friends growing up that were about 25% Native and the other 75% European background. There was a lot of intermarriage and most of the folks consider themselves pretty mixed. Looks at the rocks family.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

There's probably more of them now than had the Americans never gone into Hawaii. Assuming the Americans didn't, the Japanese certainly would have, and that would have been brutal episode.

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I would just say for anyone reading this thread to decide where to go in Hawaii other than Maui, Oahu’s north shore is truly gorgeous. We have been fortunate enough to go there (and also Maui, Big Island and Kauai) a couple of times and Ohau north shore is my hands down favorite place.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

I mean there are no native Hawaiians. They’re all immigrants from Polynesia. There are like 1.5 million Hawaiian/Polynesians in the US. I’m assuming that at least some of them left the island for the mainland. Only so much you can do on an island in the middle of the ocean.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

It is this kind of attitude which makes people in Hawaii hate tourists.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

I wonder how they count that. I had two good friends growing up that were about 25% Native and the other 75% European background. There was a lot of intermarriage and most of the folks consider themselves pretty mixed. Looks at the rocks family.

It can vary based on context, but, for some purposes, Hawai’i recognizes only persons who are at least 50% blood quantum as “native Hawaiian.” It’s a controversial question.

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/sac/hi0601/report.htm

Today, there is a more specific, and in many ways more divisive, method for categorizing Hawaiian people. As defined by the state's Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and consistent with modern federal definitions, Native Hawaiian (with a capital N ) refers to all persons of Hawaiian ancestry, regardless of blood quantum; native Hawaiian (with a lower case n ) refers to those with 50 percent or more Hawaiian blood.[59] However, who qualifies as a beneficiary of programs for Native Hawaiians depends on the guidelines of the agency or enabling statute responsible for the program. For example, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands must follow the definition provided by the 1921 Hawaiian Homes Commission Act: The term native Hawaiian means any descendant of not less than one-half of the blood of the races inhabiting the Hawaiian Islands previous to 1778. [60] Some state programs use either Hawaiian or Part Hawaiian for classification purposes. Still others use lower blood requirements for categorization. For example, the State of Hawai i Department of Health s Health Surveillance Program includes in its counts individuals with any measure of Hawaiian blood, making its estimate of the number of Hawaiians inhabiting the islands significantly higher than even the self-identified count of the census.[61]

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Anonymous wrote:Next year is probably a great time to go. Most stuff will be rebuilt but tourists won't be in the same volume due to postponing trips.

No, most stuff will likely not be rebuilt by next year. An entire town with almost 2000 structures was decimated. It will take years for Lahaina to rebuild. it's an island, getting supplies and workers there to rebuild the infrastructure will take time

In addition, the big resorts around Kaanapali are going to be less convenient. The main road road from the airport to the West side of the island goes around the southern side of the West part of the island. That road goes right through the burned out part near Lahaina and likely that road is going to become the main route for all supplies for rebuilding the West side of the island. Traffic along the south side will be bad for the next few years. If you want to try to get to/from the airport, the aquarium the road to Hana and many of the other attractions on the island of Maui, traffic is likely going to have to push up to the smaller northern route which takes twice as long to get back to the airport in the center of the island. Unless you plan to stay only in the resort (which some will do), the West side is not going to be as attractive a destination as it was for several years.

One option might be for the big resorts to go to 50% capacity next year. They will need housing for workers and can use half their rooms for that and it will minimize the burden on the roads, etc. this is a dumb question but was the Costco destroyed? Costco is really central for Hawaiins.

Dumb that I know this, but Costco is ok. Oprah was shopping there on Friday to bring diapers, pillows and other things to people sheltering at the gym.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

I wonder how they count that. I had two good friends growing up that were about 25% Native and the other 75% European background. There was a lot of intermarriage and most of the folks consider themselves pretty mixed. Looks at the rocks family.

It can vary based on context, but, for some purposes, Hawai’i recognizes only persons who are at least 50% blood quantum as “native Hawaiian.” It’s a controversial question.

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/sac/hi0601/report.htm

Today, there is a more specific, and in many ways more divisive, method for categorizing Hawaiian people. As defined by the state's Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and consistent with modern federal definitions, Native Hawaiian (with a capital N ) refers to all persons of Hawaiian ancestry, regardless of blood quantum; native Hawaiian (with a lower case n ) refers to those with 50 percent or more Hawaiian blood.[59] However, who qualifies as a beneficiary of programs for Native Hawaiians depends on the guidelines of the agency or enabling statute responsible for the program. For example, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands must follow the definition provided by the 1921 Hawaiian Homes Commission Act: The term native Hawaiian means any descendant of not less than one-half of the blood of the races inhabiting the Hawaiian Islands previous to 1778. [60] Some state programs use either Hawaiian or Part Hawaiian for classification purposes. Still others use lower blood requirements for categorization. For example, the State of Hawai i Department of Health s Health Surveillance Program includes in its counts individuals with any measure of Hawaiian blood, making its estimate of the number of Hawaiians inhabiting the islands significantly higher than even the self-identified count of the census.[61]

That’s kind of gross. If you were measuring how white people were by their blood, there would be an uproar.

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Anonymous wrote:Next year is probably a great time to go. Most stuff will be rebuilt but tourists won't be in the same volume due to postponing trips.

No, most stuff will likely not be rebuilt by next year. An entire town with almost 2000 structures was decimated. It will take years for Lahaina to rebuild. it's an island, getting supplies and workers there to rebuild the infrastructure will take time

In addition, the big resorts around Kaanapali are going to be less convenient. The main road road from the airport to the West side of the island goes around the southern side of the West part of the island. That road goes right through the burned out part near Lahaina and likely that road is going to become the main route for all supplies for rebuilding the West side of the island. Traffic along the south side will be bad for the next few years. If you want to try to get to/from the airport, the aquarium the road to Hana and many of the other attractions on the island of Maui, traffic is likely going to have to push up to the smaller northern route which takes twice as long to get back to the airport in the center of the island. Unless you plan to stay only in the resort (which some will do), the West side is not going to be as attractive a destination as it was for several years.

One option might be for the big resorts to go to 50% capacity next year. They will need housing for workers and can use half their rooms for that and it will minimize the burden on the roads, etc. this is a dumb question but was the Costco destroyed? Costco is really central for Hawaiins.

Dumb that I know this, but Costco is ok. Oprah was shopping there on Friday to bring diapers, pillows and other things to people sheltering at the gym.

Yeah, cause Oprah is who they need right now. They need Jose Andreas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not visit Maui (or anywhere in Hawaii) next year. The islands have limited resources, food, etc. The individuals and economy will still be feeling the devastation of the wildfires.

I don’t see any reason not to visit the other islands.

Residents were begging people to stop visiting Hawaii prior to the wildfires. Maybe listen to the people on the ground rather than your selfish desires.

But wouldn't you have to be in Hawaii to listen to the people "on the ground"? You're acting like this is an obvious thing everyone should know.

NP here - it's been widely reported in the news, before covid but especially during covid becauseof limited medical facilities. Covid aside, tourism has badly hurt the flora and fauna that tourists come to see, and it doesn't result in great jobs - mostly cleaning hotel rooms and the like. Yet it's expensive to live there, for complicated real estate reasons and because so much (food, fuel) has to be imported.

I have family in Hawaii, non-natives whose parents moved there before statehood and who work in agriculture. People forget that statehood was REALLY recent, like within memory of Hawaiians still living, and was widely opposed by Native Hawaiians. The anger about colonization is very intertwined with the paternalism of saying their economy needs our tourism. I don't have answers, and I am not the person to say visiting is wrong, but it's way more complicated than just calling it grumbling about tourists.

Well TBH if we hadn’t colonized them the Chinese would have. They got the better end of the deal.

Yep. The Hawaiians should stop complaining and instead think themselves lucky and privileged. I've been all over Asia-Pacific and had the US not taken the islands, it'd be a dirt poor third world country with luxury resorts dominated by both wealthy American and Japanese and increasingly Chinese tourists. And more to it, there would be even far less care for the environment, far more overbuilding and corruption, more societal dysfunctionalism and social abuse. And far more litter and pollution and trash.

Only 10% of Hawaii is Native and Pacific Islander, so I don't think it really worked out for them in the end.

Why - do you believe in homelands for certain populations? Because that certainly isn't a popular view at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the most self-centered and insensitive post I’ve seen.

+1

This thread was disgusting when it started, but it’s even more disgusting as it becomes apparent than the death toll on Maui is likely to reach the several hundreds, if not 1000+.

Tourism is destroying this planet, but every tourist thinks their right to see everything they want to see in person outweighs any obligation to future generations. Or any obligation to take a pause and consider the death toll in Lahaina before debating whether to visit Maui next year or not.

[Anonymous]

OP - the obvious answer is No. Resources are in an issue and will continue to be an issue for Hawaiians. Go somewhere else.