Rethinking Maui next year due to fires

[Anonymous]

We will go to Maui but probably not until next year. The residents who work in the tourism industry will get my tourism $$. What are they doing to do? Open a Honda factory?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

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For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

That is AWFUL. The tourists need to GO HOME.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

Not sure about you but if my friends and family were missing or just lost everything, heck if I had just lost everything and had no home the last thing I would care about is my job and serving *hole tourist like you a cocktail. Not to mention there is one hospital on the island and most emergency personnel are focused on finding the dead bodies so if a tourist has an emergency they won't be getting much help.

Not saying stay away forever but anyone going to Maui right now is a selfish.....

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

The American white savior complex is strong here.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

The American white savior complex is strong here.

Why? They Hawaiians have hated tourists for a long time. This goes way back before the fire. If people need time off from their jobs to recover and rebuild that's between them and their employer. There are natural disasters everywhere, this isn't unique to Hawaii. Look at what happened to Florida recently.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

Not sure about you but if my friends and family were missing or just lost everything, heck if I had just lost everything and had no home the last thing I would care about is my job and serving *hole tourist like you a cocktail. Not to mention there is one hospital on the island and most emergency personnel are focused on finding the dead bodies so if a tourist has an emergency they won't be getting much help.

Not saying stay away forever but anyone going to Maui right now is a selfish.....

Then stop going to work! The job will be there when they are ready to go back.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

The American white savior complex is strong here.

Why? They Hawaiians have hated tourists for a long time. This goes way back before the fire. If people need time off from their jobs to recover and rebuild that's between them and their employer. There are natural disasters everywhere, this isn't unique to Hawaii. Look at what happened to Florida recently.

My god you are clueless or maybe just lack empathy. Hawaii is nothing like freaking Florida. It is a fraction of the size and cut off from the mainland. Resources are more scares and having to provide food and resources to tourist right now when they can barely provide resources for of of those who have been displaced is a major strain. Heck they had to ship in insulin because there wasn't enough on the island and many stores have bare shelves.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

Not sure about you but if my friends and family were missing or just lost everything, heck if I had just lost everything and had no home the last thing I would care about is my job and serving *hole tourist like you a cocktail. Not to mention there is one hospital on the island and most emergency personnel are focused on finding the dead bodies so if a tourist has an emergency they won't be getting much help.

Not saying stay away forever but anyone going to Maui right now is a selfish.....

Then stop going to work! The job will be there when they are ready to go back.

stop caring only about yourself and your damn vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

Not sure about you but if my friends and family were missing or just lost everything, heck if I had just lost everything and had no home the last thing I would care about is my job and serving *hole tourist like you a cocktail. Not to mention there is one hospital on the island and most emergency personnel are focused on finding the dead bodies so if a tourist has an emergency they won't be getting much help.

Not saying stay away forever but anyone going to Maui right now is a selfish.....

Then stop going to work! The job will be there when they are ready to go back.

stop caring only about yourself and your damn vacation.

I have no plans to go to Maui. But, really, if you resent the tourists so much, quit the job. Do whatever you think you would do if tourism didn't exist. See how that works out.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to take years to recover sadly. We should all be donating to organizations that will house the locals in the resorts for as long as is needed, because they’ve lost everything and getting materials in to rebuild will take a long time. Tourists going back will only push them out of needed shelter.

This 1000x

For now, hotels/condos are the best way to house the 10K+ who just became homeless and literally have nothing. Many also do not have vehicles anymore or a job as their place of business may be obliterated.
It will take a very long time to rebuild, to get the supplies in to enable the rebuilding.
There was just a new low income housing for 89families that opened in Dec 2022 in Lahaina---that is gone. Those families finally had reasonably affordable housing and now they just lost everything.

We will wait to return when the government says they are ready. Until then, we will donate to help assist with the rebuilding and keeping the families safe and provided for in our Happy place.

Unfortunately, the government may not look out for the best interests of residents either, they will be eager to get tourism cash again even if it hurts the residents. So yes wait for the ok from the local government but then you need to really listen to the people there on the ground if they are ready for you to return or if it's just going to displace them.

This! The governor has been quotes as saying that only west Maui is current closed. When in reality the entire island should be closed for now. there are still as many as 1300 people missing and those who are now without a home need immediate help and supplies. Tourist should not be there sucking up resources anytime soon. But the governor does not care and will not officially close the island. It is also sad to expect people to have lost everything including friends and family to still be serving up poolside cocktails because people are too selfish to cancel their vacation plans.

I agree, but with the recovery there needs to be a plan to diversify the state's economy. Way too reliant on tourism. And there is this whole other train of thought on anther forum I visit that people cancelling their vacations is selfish, not the other way around, because that is punishing those that rely on tourism dollars. If visitors don't come, people will lose their jobs.

The only ones who say this are the tourists who think the island exist for them. I have not seen a single thing from a Maui local or native telling people to hop on a plane tomorrow or that they are selfish if they cancel their vacation. I did see a video of Maui local who lost her home and was given a room at the resort. She said hos sad and painful it was to see people enjoying around them their vacation while the employees are literally holding back tears as they serve them. She said one maintenance worker was sitting on the grass crying. Jobs are the last thing people are worried about when they still likely have friends who are still missing or who have lost everything. Sure, return in time but the last thing they need for at least the next month is tourists. Listen to the locals and natives not tourists, selfish government officials or the big corporations who only care about profits.

Will the people be less sad if they are unemployed?

Not sure about you but if my friends and family were missing or just lost everything, heck if I had just lost everything and had no home the last thing I would care about is my job and serving *hole tourist like you a cocktail. Not to mention there is one hospital on the island and most emergency personnel are focused on finding the dead bodies so if a tourist has an emergency they won't be getting much help.

Not saying stay away forever but anyone going to Maui right now is a selfish.....

Then stop going to work! The job will be there when they are ready to go back.

stop caring only about yourself and your damn vacation.

I have no plans to go to Maui. But, really, if you resent the tourists so much, quit the job. Do whatever you think you would do if tourism didn't exist. See how that works out.

I don't live or work in Maui. But I do listen when people who are there are actively telling people not to come right now. Sadly many, including the big hotel chains, do not care about anything other than profits. And most of the people who benefit from tourism in Hawaii are not even the natives. Most airbnbs are owned by people who don't even live there.