Kate Middleton looks really happy lately

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Edward and Sophie had a rocky start, too. Edward was trying the Hollywood thing and shopping around ideas for shows and movies. He failed spectacularly and was embarrassing the Queen so she offered him a bunch of money to stop. Now, 20 years later, they’re crucial members of the firm.

Kate is perfect for the job, and she endured a lot of awful things from the tabloids to get where she is today.

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Anonymous wrote:Her Royal nemesis wont be around much longer. Loud rumors of Harry and Megan divorce.

Don't buy this. Although an eventual split wouldn't surprise me, not while the kids are young I don't think.

It’s people in their circles talking about them being on the rocks. I’ll come back in a few years and bump this thread

Watch for Harry to start making more appearances in the Uk.

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Anonymous wrote:For any woman, going into a joint family and having children is tough, more so if royalty, media and public is involved. She manages it pretty well. Diana, Sarah and Meghan failed.

I never thought about it this way.

Sophie seems to be doing ok too now after a rough start.

Sophie has a much lower profile. She and Edward don't get anything close to the scrutiny that Diana, Kate, and Meghan have received. Sarah Ferguson also got a lot more leeway from the press back in the day, but she was such an over-the-top personality (and a HUGE partier back then) that she still became tabloid fodder. You can't go on vacation with your side piece and show off about it the way she did, especially not when married to the queen's favorite son. But she still didn't get as much negative press as Diana or either of her son's wives, all of whom were hounded by the press as soon as it was known they were dating a prince.

I do think Kate handles it all exceptionally well, but I also think a primary difference between her and Diana/Meghan is that she really wants the public side of the job. She really seems to care about putting on a show a a "royal" for people and being a figurehead who represents something meaningful to people simply for existing. Diana did care about using her fame to help others, but didn't like being a symbol or figurehead. And Meghan I think expected being royal to be like a slightly more formal version of being a celebrity, and didn't understand the degree to which people would impose these very high and specific expectations on her. But Kate not only gets that, I think she likes it. I think being married to and then mother to the future kinds of England is basically her calling, which is sort of wild.

Very well reasoned, especially that last bit.

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Why is that wild? I could think of worse things.

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Kate and William knew each other well from teen years and grew up together.

Harry and Megan met in middle age and immediately moved in, she fell in love with his status and he fell in love with her Rachel Zane persona.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, every one of these is from a planned photo op designed to project a specific image. They aren't paparazzi shops or behind the scenes photos that are revealing her actual state of mind.

I think the Wales' have made extra effort to put Kate out there and looking happy and relaxed because of stories like this that have been circulating since the coronation: https://nypost.com/2023/05/17/why-angry-kate-middleton-refused-to-curtsy-to-queen-camilla-at-coronation/

There was also some scuttlebutt about Kate "upstaging" the king and queen at a flower show, and it's just interesting how much press coverage the Wales have gotten, but especially Kate, since the coronation -- they are much more visible than Charles or Camilla.

I wouldn't assume anything about Kate's actual emotions based on any of this, but she (and her team) are doing a good job with her image in terms of making her look busy and likable, which is pretty much her entire job.

Agree 1000%.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and William knew each other well from teen years and grew up together.

Harry and Megan met in middle age and immediately moved in, she fell in love with his status and he fell in love with her Rachel Zane persona.

I’m sure we all know high school sweethearts who had messy divorces and others whose second marriages in their thirties lasted. William and Kate also broke up while dating, so it wasn’t all rosy.

I don’t think William and Kate will ever divorce. And I don’t buy any of the royal gossip from Megan and Harry’s “inner circles.” The people who may have had access to Harry in the UK have no clue what his is looks like in California. There’s just no way the royal reporters managed to get sources within their new circles and they’re mad about it, so they’re going for the low hanging fruit: married couple may divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone gets happier once they're out of the toddler stage!

They had a live in nanny and housekeeping staff. I don’t think the kids or household put much strain on Kate or William. I suspect when they saw the kids, the kids were clean and most likely in good spirits. It’s clear from Louie’s behavior and reaction to his mom trying to discipline him that she hasn’t spent much time with him.

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Anonymous wrote:The royal family has a vested interest in the world falling in love with Kate.

Okay, yes, but it wasn’t so many years ago the tabloids were picking on Kate- she was a layabout who didn’t perform many official duties, she was photographed with her dress blown up by the wind, photographed nude sunbathing, pointed things were said about her parents being strivers, etc. Royalty forums had plenty of posters spreading Kate-hate.

At least they didn’t attack her skin color.

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Anonymous wrote: She's out of the baby/toddler years! (Not that she probably does much of her own parenting. But just the hormones of being early postpartum will f*** you up)

That’s what I was thinking. I was in damn Jubilee when my kids got out of that stage.

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Anonymous wrote:Her Royal nemesis wont be around much longer. Loud rumors of Harry and Megan divorce.

Don't buy this. Although an eventual split wouldn't surprise me, not while the kids are young I don't think.

I'm not a big H&M fan but I don't see divorce on the horizon at least in the immediate future.

Agreed, though I'm basically neutral on them (not a fan, but I don't hate either of them the way many seem to). Not only do I think they'd ever split while the kids are young, I actually think recent events have bonded them together even more. Harry's book threw him all in with Meghan and with his position that he (and they collectively) have been wronged by the family and staying was intolerable. Like so many of his grievances that are now publicly aired have nothing at all to do with Meghan, but she's backing him up and supporting him while his family approaches it all with an arm's length approach and less emotionality. They are a unit now and he would not be welcomed back to the BRF with open arms at this point, so they are all in on that marriage for the foreseeable future.

They are both products of divorce, severe dysfunction and mental illness. Throw in the stress of abandoning your family and friends and moving to another country--with very little if any contact to those old friends and it is really a huge obstacle...huge, huge. He gave up everything and he's isolated on this side of the pond without any good mates--not great confidants. That does not bode well for their future.

I don’t think they’ll divorce while the kids are young, but this factor has to be enormous. I can’t imagine the emotional and cultural dislocation he must feel. Harry himself probably didn’t understand exactly what he was giving up, because he’d never known anything else. The stories about him thinking Putin would be on his podcast actually ring true, because he came from a milieu where his Grandmother could command the presence of any world leader. He must have thought (still think?) that the respect and power would travel with him to the US. If he and Meghan would have been happy being a relatively anonymous rich people, they could have accomplished that in Britain. They could have disappeared to a country estate (a gift of the King, with their state provided security) and, over time, become one of the random Royal uncles and aunts that appear occasionally at various official functions. Instead, they convinced themselves that they would make their own way and show the Royal family that they weren’t needed. Talk about being born on third base and thinking you hit a triple.

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Nice to see her happy!

The sparkling in her eyes…It’s the Roger Federer magic effect.

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Anonymous wrote:Her Royal nemesis wont be around much longer. Loud rumors of Harry and Megan divorce.

Don't buy this. Although an eventual split wouldn't surprise me, not while the kids are young I don't think.

I'm not a big H&M fan but I don't see divorce on the horizon at least in the immediate future.

Agreed, though I'm basically neutral on them (not a fan, but I don't hate either of them the way many seem to). Not only do I think they'd ever split while the kids are young, I actually think recent events have bonded them together even more. Harry's book threw him all in with Meghan and with his position that he (and they collectively) have been wronged by the family and staying was intolerable. Like so many of his grievances that are now publicly aired have nothing at all to do with Meghan, but she's backing him up and supporting him while his family approaches it all with an arm's length approach and less emotionality. They are a unit now and he would not be welcomed back to the BRF with open arms at this point, so they are all in on that marriage for the foreseeable future.

They are both products of divorce, severe dysfunction and mental illness. Throw in the stress of abandoning your family and friends and moving to another country--with very little if any contact to those old friends and it is really a huge obstacle...huge, huge. He gave up everything and he's isolated on this side of the pond without any good mates--not great confidants. That does not bode well for their future.

I don’t think they’ll divorce while the kids are young, but this factor has to be enormous. I can’t imagine the emotional and cultural dislocation he must feel. Harry himself probably didn’t understand exactly what he was giving up, because he’d never known anything else. The stories about him thinking Putin would be on his podcast actually ring true, because he came from a milieu where his Grandmother could command the presence of any world leader. He must have thought (still think?) that the respect and power would travel with him to the US. If he and Meghan would have been happy being a relatively anonymous rich people, they could have accomplished that in Britain. They could have disappeared to a country estate (a gift of the King, with their state provided security) and, over time, become one of the random Royal uncles and aunts that appear occasionally at various official functions. Instead, they convinced themselves that they would make their own way and show the Royal family that they weren’t needed. Talk about being born on third base and thinking you hit a triple.

There is zero chance Harry and Meghan could’ve retired to the British country side. The British press would not have let up on them if they’d remained in the country.

I do agree that H had no idea how hard isolating himself in another country would be however, we have no idea if his friends make regular trips here to the states and who their social circle is. I hope it’s not just the four of them and their live-in help and her mom. That’s not great for long term happiness.

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Anonymous wrote:Her Royal nemesis wont be around much longer. Loud rumors of Harry and Megan divorce.

Don't buy this. Although an eventual split wouldn't surprise me, not while the kids are young I don't think.

It’s people in their circles talking about them being on the rocks. I’ll come back in a few years and bump this thread

Watch for Harry to start making more appearances in the Uk.

If he were going to make more appearances he would’ve been there for his fathers coronation in Scotland - instead he celebrated 4th of July at home.

I actually like H&M and I think they were being thrown to the tabloid wolves as sacrifice for the family because he was the spare. He wanted a reason to get out, Meghan was tired of being raked and they left. I think both sides have blame to take.

[Anonymous]

Husband just took over the duchy of Cornwall - she got mom-nay!