Kate Middleton looks really happy lately

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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.



“Looked” classy rather than “is” classy. She deserted Meghan when she was 2 years old, returned when she was 9 and Meghan’s father was the custodial parent. Meghan had only a slight relationship with her mother until she needed at least one relative at the wedding. Meghan set her up in a dubious home health care business with no employees. It is similar to the business that Thomas Markel set up for her in which she paid no taxes. Markel bailed her out to avoid jail for her and this caused his bankruptcy.

Look a little more into Doria Ragland’s before you judge a book by its cover

Don’t try to play the race card. I am blacker than Meghan or her mother.


Sources? If Thomas Markle has told the world Meghan had a hysterectomy, why wouldn’t he have spilled the tea on Doria too?


Why did Meghan’s father turn against her? Sad.
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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.



“Looked” classy rather than “is” classy. She deserted Meghan when she was 2 years old, returned when she was 9 and Meghan’s father was the custodial parent. Meghan had only a slight relationship with her mother until she needed at least one relative at the wedding. Meghan set her up in a dubious home health care business with no employees. It is similar to the business that Thomas Markel set up for her in which she paid no taxes. Markel bailed her out to avoid jail for her and this caused his bankruptcy.

Look a little more into Doria Ragland’s before you judge a book by its cover

Don’t try to play the race card. I am blacker than Meghan or her mother.


Sources? If Thomas Markle has told the world Meghan had a hysterectomy, why wouldn’t he have spilled the tea on Doria too?


Why did Meghan’s father turn against her? Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?



DP and I do think Meghan and her mom are strivers but I don't think Meghan is in the same category as Diana and Kate, both of whom I think married with the specific intent to marry into the royal family and become royals. Whereas I think Meghan is an opportunist who has always looked for ways to earn more money or gain more social status, whether through her acting career, her influencer website, or social media. I think Meghan genuinely fell for Harry and then looked for ways to make that work "synergistically" for her because that's how her brain works -- how does this play into my brand? how do I pivot my career to work with the BRF and this relationship? I don't think becoming a Princess was her ultimate goal, but she did seek to exploit it (and still does) to her benefit because I think she's always looking for more financial security and social leverage.

Whereas for Kate/Diana, the marriage and becoming Princess was the thing. In both cases because their families wanted/needed them to, but Kate was obviously much better prepared for the role and I think ultimately wanted the public-facing and responsibility side of it, whereas I think Diana just wanted the clothes and the parties, at least at first (eventually I do think she appreciated the way her position allowed her to help people she cared about, and overlooking her work with AIDS patients or land mine survivors shortchanges her, even if it's okay to acknowledge she was pretty shallow and not terribly intellectual most of her life).


Yes, but she had been seeking out British titled guys to date for a while. And she jumped at the chance to meet Harry and pursued him. She didn't have as realistic a plan and goal as Kate did but she wanted to marry a title, something that few American women really seek out in any way.


What do you base this on?


Meghan asked Harry’s childhood friend, Violet von Westenholz, to show Harry her Instagram picture. At the time Violet was repping Ralph Lauren and Meghan was in London to merch Ralph Lauren at Wimbledon. Meghan told Violet and other acquaintances from Soho House that she wanted to marry a rich Englishmen. It has been in theyr various interviews. Meghan was pushing 40 and the sex kitten roles dried up. She needed a 401K and some anchor babies before her biological click ran down

In my close in affluent area, this os not unusual fir women whose PR and media careers were based on looks and needed a retirement plan

Meghan just did it on a larger scale.

So a beautiful woman who already had some money of her own wanted to marry someone who also had money???? Burn her at the stake!

Also the fact that you think Americans are desperate to have UK “anchor babies” (which btw term doesn’t even fit because they don’t have birthright citizenship) is hilariously dumb.
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Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?



DP and I do think Meghan and her mom are strivers but I don't think Meghan is in the same category as Diana and Kate, both of whom I think married with the specific intent to marry into the royal family and become royals. Whereas I think Meghan is an opportunist who has always looked for ways to earn more money or gain more social status, whether through her acting career, her influencer website, or social media. I think Meghan genuinely fell for Harry and then looked for ways to make that work "synergistically" for her because that's how her brain works -- how does this play into my brand? how do I pivot my career to work with the BRF and this relationship? I don't think becoming a Princess was her ultimate goal, but she did seek to exploit it (and still does) to her benefit because I think she's always looking for more financial security and social leverage.

Whereas for Kate/Diana, the marriage and becoming Princess was the thing. In both cases because their families wanted/needed them to, but Kate was obviously much better prepared for the role and I think ultimately wanted the public-facing and responsibility side of it, whereas I think Diana just wanted the clothes and the parties, at least at first (eventually I do think she appreciated the way her position allowed her to help people she cared about, and overlooking her work with AIDS patients or land mine survivors shortchanges her, even if it's okay to acknowledge she was pretty shallow and not terribly intellectual most of her life).


Yes, but she had been seeking out British titled guys to date for a while. And she jumped at the chance to meet Harry and pursued him. She didn't have as realistic a plan and goal as Kate did but she wanted to marry a title, something that few American women really seek out in any way.


What do you base this on?


DP, I have seen this rumor posted on DCUM and nowhere else. At this point it seems pretty established that they became aware of each other via a mutual friend on Instagram and then were introduced by said friend (Violet von Westenholz, who knows Harry from their youth and met Meghan because she worked in PR for Ralph Lauren at the time) in London a short while later. There is zero evidence that Meghan was on the prowl for "British titled guys" and she has no known dating history in that set. She had few if any British friends and had not spent much time in the UK. She was also married until 2014.


https://www.yahoo.com/video/meghan-markle-asked-lizzy-cundy-to-help-her-find-a-famous-british-guy-and-then-ghosted-her-when-she-met-harry-090701263.html?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9116963/meghan-markle-lizzie-cundy-british-man/
https://www.hola.com/us/celebrities/2016111419628/meghan-markle-talks-her-love-for-british-guys/
https://pagesix.com/2021/06/12/meghan-markle-passed-over-by-soccer-star-before-meeting-prince-harry/

That said, who cares if either of them were 'chasing' anyone. This is not uncommon and we see plenty of examples here.


Sorry, but Markle saying she finds British accents sexy in 2013 and then the whining of Lizzie Cundy aren't exactly "evidence." I also find British accents sexy, am I secretly trying to marry into the royal family? Cundy was hawking a book and knew that any "dirt" on Meghan or Meghan and Harry would help it sell, which it did. But what does she actually even say? That Meghan once told her she loved English guys and was looking for men to date? She was in the midst of a divorce, that doesn't sound weird to me. Dating someone in London, as opposed to Toronto or LA, was probably appealing for a variety of reasons at that stage in her life.


Only someone who is naive or disingenuous would say this...

DP. Toronto has actually become a lot like LA in the past few years tons of women with overinflated Kylie Jenner lips and superficial older men trying to date 20 year olds. Not crazy that someone in their 30s would seek a different dating pool.
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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.



“Looked” classy rather than “is” classy. She deserted Meghan when she was 2 years old, returned when she was 9 and Meghan’s father was the custodial parent. Meghan had only a slight relationship with her mother until she needed at least one relative at the wedding. Meghan set her up in a dubious home health care business with no employees. It is similar to the business that Thomas Markel set up for her in which she paid no taxes. Markel bailed her out to avoid jail for her and this caused his bankruptcy.

Look a little more into Doria Ragland’s before you judge a book by its cover

Don’t try to play the race card. I am blacker than Meghan or her mother.

You know all that but not that it’s “Markle” and not “Markel?”
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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.


No. She is trash and had clothes bought by KC.
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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.


No. She is trash and had clothes bought by KC.


Do y’all ever get tired of finding “dirt” on MM? What’s the end game here? When will you move on?
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Remember this thread is about how happy Kate Middleton look. Leave the Markles aside.
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She gives almond mom vibes but has always been pretty thin.
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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?



DP and I do think Meghan and her mom are strivers but I don't think Meghan is in the same category as Diana and Kate, both of whom I think married with the specific intent to marry into the royal family and become royals. Whereas I think Meghan is an opportunist who has always looked for ways to earn more money or gain more social status, whether through her acting career, her influencer website, or social media. I think Meghan genuinely fell for Harry and then looked for ways to make that work "synergistically" for her because that's how her brain works -- how does this play into my brand? how do I pivot my career to work with the BRF and this relationship? I don't think becoming a Princess was her ultimate goal, but she did seek to exploit it (and still does) to her benefit because I think she's always looking for more financial security and social leverage.

Whereas for Kate/Diana, the marriage and becoming Princess was the thing. In both cases because their families wanted/needed them to, but Kate was obviously much better prepared for the role and I think ultimately wanted the public-facing and responsibility side of it, whereas I think Diana just wanted the clothes and the parties, at least at first (eventually I do think she appreciated the way her position allowed her to help people she cared about, and overlooking her work with AIDS patients or land mine survivors shortchanges her, even if it's okay to acknowledge she was pretty shallow and not terribly intellectual most of her life).


Yes, but she had been seeking out British titled guys to date for a while. And she jumped at the chance to meet Harry and pursued him. She didn't have as realistic a plan and goal as Kate did but she wanted to marry a title, something that few American women really seek out in any way.


What do you base this on?


Meghan asked Harry’s childhood friend, Violet von Westenholz, to show Harry her Instagram picture. At the time Violet was repping Ralph Lauren and Meghan was in London to merch Ralph Lauren at Wimbledon. Meghan told Violet and other acquaintances from Soho House that she wanted to marry a rich Englishmen. It has been in theyr various interviews. Meghan was pushing 40 and the sex kitten roles dried up. She needed a 401K and some anchor babies before her biological click ran down

In my close in affluent area, this os not unusual fir women whose PR and media careers were based on looks and needed a retirement plan

Meghan just did it on a larger scale.

So a beautiful woman who already had some money of her own wanted to marry someone who also had money???? Burn her at the stake!

Also the fact that you think Americans are desperate to have UK “anchor babies” (which btw term doesn’t even fit because they don’t have birthright citizenship) is hilariously dumb.


I also think it's ridiculous to think Meghan was desperate to escape... her career as an actress on a popular and long-running television drama. Had she never met Harry, I have no doubt she would have continued to land roles, especially in TV where there are far more roles available for both older women and WOC, as an established name with a strong track record. Also, people can make fun of Suits all they want, but the network of actors, directors, and producers on that show goes deep, and Markle's relationships with all of them would have continued to net her roles. She could also have segued into directing/producing, which many TV actors do at a certain point.

Point being, I find the narrative that Meghan was desperate to land a rich guy before her career ended and she lost all her money to be laughably strange. I do think she was eager to have kids. What professional woman in her mid-to-late 30s wouldn't be anxious about that, especially coming out of a short marriage that didn't last?
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Anonymous wrote:Remember this thread is about how happy Kate Middleton look. Leave the Markles aside.


Hm, no. On every thread about Biden we see every second post about Trump. So bringing Megan into this thread is consistent with the rules of this forum.

The fact that you think anyone discussed on here is comparable to the former and current presidents of the United States is baffling.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure about “dignity” role model. Feel like you have to have very little dignity in order to do what you have to do to get married to a future king, especially one who is rumored to have lots of temper tantrums. No thanks.


ITA. She chased after (or waited for) that man for 10 years of her life.


Another in agreement. I don't think it's particularly dignified to take someone back after cheating and who makes it clear you're the backup. I guess she's dignified in putting up with humiliation but I don't find that particularly admirable.

DP. It’s not dignified and not what most people would want for their daughters. However, she really sacrificed a lot for her family or origin. If it weren’t for being royal adjacent her parents would’ve gone broke years ago and her siblings, especially her bummy brother, would not have been able to marry as well as he did.


+1 same for her sister. No way Pippa would’ve landed a billionaire.


Probably not, but I remember pre-wedding Carol Middleton sort of low key admiting she had groomed her daughters to marry well and expressing real shock that Kate was the one who was ascending into this position. To her, she thought Pippa was cuter and had a more lively, outgoing personality. Of course she is their mom and loves them, but the subtext read like, "I raised them the same but I never thought it would be the more homely, boring one who did this!"

Pippa has a great figure and seems to have a fun personality but looks very average. Carole probably hoped she’d land Harry LOL. Her husband is super rich, so looks like she did okay.


Pippas husband is much richer than Harry and seems decent. His father, Pippas FIL, is an alleged pedophile though

The pedo FIL is supposedly the reason that Kate and Pippa aren’t photographed together in public these days.

I doubt that’s the reason. Pippa was photographed with Kate and Meghan at Wimbledon after the allegations came out. It seems like they just aren’t as close as they used to be. Pure speculation but I wonder, based on how she talks about Kate’s kids, if perhaps Carole treats Kate’s children better or differently than she does Pippa’s and that leads to some tension between the two.


No way. That family is incredibly close and always will be. PP is probably right, and they meet indoors without paps.
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Anonymous wrote:Was Lady Diana not a social climber? Why would a stunningly gorgeous woman with an inheritance marry a much older, balding, average looking and boring man who is already in love with a forbidden woman?


Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.



“Looked” classy rather than “is” classy. She deserted Meghan when she was 2 years old, returned when she was 9 and Meghan’s father was the custodial parent. Meghan had only a slight relationship with her mother until she needed at least one relative at the wedding. Meghan set her up in a dubious home health care business with no employees. It is similar to the business that Thomas Markel set up for her in which she paid no taxes. Markel bailed her out to avoid jail for her and this caused his bankruptcy.

Look a little more into Doria Ragland’s before you judge a book by its cover

Don’t try to play the race card. I am blacker than Meghan or her mother.


These are all unsubstantiated rumors.



Actually not. There are public records of the bankruptcies and the IRS actions and the nursing home and home health care businesses
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Anonymous wrote:Kate doesn’t look healthy at all. Rail thin and feeble come to mind.


Aren’t you happy that you can no longer be fat shamed?
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Of corse Diana was. I think both Kate and Diana are (were, respectively) social climbers.


Yes but then would you count Meghan and her mom as social climbers as well?


Meghan, yea. Her mom…why? She hasn’t really received any benefit from Meghan being royal and unlike the Middleton’s doesn’t have (had) the type of business that benefits from the association.


+1, this is one of those allegations that feels transparently racist. I think a lot of people saw a black woman as the MIB at a royal wedding and felt she was way above her station, thus the idea that she's social climbing. But I bet you anything she would have preferred Meghan marry some American or Canadian actor/celeb and settle nearby in LA and not deal with all the BS they've been through in the last 7 years. I'm sure she likes Harry well enough and loves her grandkids, but it's not like Meghan was broke or struggling before Harry. She was on a successful TV show, making money, had a good and extensive group of friends.

I think in some ways Meghan got very unlucky in meeting Harry when she did, because she fell for him, they got married, and because of their age they immediately had kids, and now she's in the royal family in some capacity forever. I don't really think that's what Meghan's mom wanted for her, to be perfectly honest.


I loved their whole wedding but I thought her mother was particularly elegant.


She was and looked more more classy than Elizbeth and Camilla.



“Looked” classy rather than “is” classy. She deserted Meghan when she was 2 years old, returned when she was 9 and Meghan’s father was the custodial parent. Meghan had only a slight relationship with her mother until she needed at least one relative at the wedding. Meghan set her up in a dubious home health care business with no employees. It is similar to the business that Thomas Markel set up for her in which she paid no taxes. Markel bailed her out to avoid jail for her and this caused his bankruptcy.

Look a little more into Doria Ragland’s before you judge a book by its cover

Don’t try to play the race card. I am blacker than Meghan or her mother.


These are all unsubstantiated rumors.



Actually not. There are public records of the bankruptcies and the IRS actions and the nursing home and home health care businesses


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