US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Goodbye, standardized tests!

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to benefit low income, rural, and first Gen families as these categories will become a race neutral way of achieving diversity, which is likely no one on this thread.

Some schools can afford the shift, but it means losing full pay URM students in exchange for first gen or low income students who will need lots of aid and most schools can't afford that.

Let me get out my tiny violin…

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that this helps poor, rural whites. SC decision deplored admitting affluent blacks as a way to increase black enrollment. Kids of all races attending great schools in large MSAs are f*cked.

Where does everyone think this enormous pool of financial aid for poor rural and first gen students is coming from? Sure the Ivys and a few other select schools can afford it, but the majority of colleges need tuition paying students. I guess the most valuable students will shift from full pay URMs to full pay rural and first gen

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Thank goodness.
Our private is packed with medicore minorities (many wealthy Bank and IMF kids) who got all sorts of benefit. this bothered me the most.

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Anonymous wrote:I have sat in admissions rooms when decisions are being made.

We can now all sit in that same room, never mention race, never see race box-checks, and practically configure the same class of admittees.

The joke's on y'all.

That may be, but this is still an important day. As we've seen in earlier civil rights battles, calling out racism for what it is is always worth doing. Today's ruling raises the costs to universities of putting their thumb on the scale as regards race, and incentives matter, even for universities. Change may be incremental at first, but it will come.

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Lets not forget this hurts Asians at colleges where they are URM. This will hurt way more asians than the small handful who will now get into Yale etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope colleges and universities switch to preference for low income students as a proxy.
It would be interesting to see how that works out. And low income students are faced with huge obstacles

only that colleges don't prefer low income students. The majority admitted AA students have affluent background. College can't run without money.

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Anonymous wrote:States of California and Michigan had already banned use of race in college admissions decisions.

And between them have the top 3 Public universities that are a way above the rest!

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What a historical term under President Biden! Roe v wade and now affirmative action?! And guess what’s next - student loan payments start up again. Democrats got everything they voted for, and more!

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Anonymous wrote:America, F* yeah! Finally asians receive equal treatment under the law, not just "URM"

In synopsis I glanced, the Court summarized affirmative action is stereotypical, something to that effect, assuming all race thinks alike, are similar, etc. I guess affirmative action assumes certain people are just naturally challenged intellectually. This is a great day for URM, as they will no longer be assumed to be inferior. Those who make it will be presumed to be qualified. Finally, URMs will receive equal treatment under the law. It's a great day in America when all people, whites, brown, and blacks are judged by the content of their character.

Are student-athletes assumed to be inferior?

Are third-generation alumni students assumed to be inferior?

Student athletes generate SUPERIOR revenue for the colleges and universities. They will be cherished forever as they should be.

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Programs like Quest Bridge and Posse will get elevated.
In addition, High School profile is important as it will be a proxy for these elements.

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Mixed feelings here. Progressives for a long time have been waaayyy too willing to engage in reverse discrimination, even to the point that some take as gospel truth the notion that it is impossible to discriminate against white people. And even worse, tolerating a lot of toxic speech about “yts” and “Karens” that would never be permitted against any other group. As far as college admissions go, I admit that it did bother me that the biracial cousins were probably going to get huge boosts in college admissions over our DS, despite the fact that they have considerably more money & privilege than we do.

Yet … there is no question in my mind that systemic racism exists and continues to impact generations of black kids. That’s a harm worth repairing through affirmative action in education, especially since these kids never got a chance to show their full potential. But at the same time, it IS sort of a sick system that tolerated black kids failing in huge numbers in elementary/secondary school, then society can make itself feel better by scooping up a handful of strivers and sending them to Harvard (or more cynically, just boosting already privilaged kids based on race, see above).

The HARD work of ameliorating the legacy of racism cannot be done through Harvard’s admissions policies …

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Anonymous wrote:Great day! God has spoken.

What does god have to do with this?

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Anonymous wrote:I have sat in admissions rooms when decisions are being made.

We can now all sit in that same room, never mention race, never see race box-checks, and practically configure the same class of admittees.

The joke's on y'all.

It makes admissions softer, one less variable to equalize, one less discussion needed.

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The decision will have a very narrow impact, but an impact in the short-term that can be re-imagined and re-crafted to produce similar outcomes in the long-term.

Remember, the number of Black and Latino yearly graduates from 100 highly selective colleges that presumably use race as a factor in admissions represent only 1% of the aggregate total of students in four-year colleges. 1% (!!!)

State universities know their in-state high schools backward and forward. They know how to recruit and admit diverse populations. See Texas. See Georgia. 29% of UTA is Latino. 22% of Berkeley is Latino.