Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School

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Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

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is there a way to tell what elementary schools the 5th graders at BASIS went to in 4th grade?

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Anonymous wrote:is there a way to tell what elementary schools the 5th graders at BASIS went to in 4th grade?

17 from Watkins
10 from Brent
and <9 from dozens of schools

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Anonymous wrote:No one has been claiming that Brent families are recently attending Jefferson in large numbers. They have instead been claiming that some families at the other three Jefferson elementary school feeders are increasingly open to Jefferson.

This just isn't true. Folks absolutely have claimed that or tried to equate the Maury/EH & Brent/Jefferson numbers. This puts lie to that. And there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that Tyler kids are flocking there either. Did anyone doubt AB and VN kids were heading there? One of the oft discussed knocks on Jefferson is that it’s hard to get buy in from the Hill when it’s far away and awkwardly located. Obviously that doesn’t apply to AB or VN.

Also did Jefferson really get zero kids into Walls last year??

There hasn’t been significant movement from Brent to Jefferson for the last 3-4 years. There hasn’t really been much discussion of it on DCUM either. I follow it closely. I think the pandemic derailed things a bit. At least it did for our family. We were pretty seriously considering Jefferson for our oldest, but we left DCPS during the pandemic and haven’t gone back. Distance learning was a misery, and there seemed to be some extreme post-pandemic behavioral issues.

The problem with this theory is that it doesn't seem to have derailed EH and SH feeders. Why would the impact be localized to Brent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

In what way are those “all five of the big DCPS middle schools”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

In what way are those “all five of the big DCPS middle schools”?

In their enrollment numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

In what way are those “all five of the big DCPS middle schools”?

NP. I don't think they meant it as a value judgment. Guessing it was a reference to the largest enrollment numbers.

[Anonymous]

The private school forum debates the “big 3” all day everyday. Looks like we get to contend with the “big 5”. Get your popcorn…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

In what way are those “all five of the big DCPS middle schools”?

NP. I don't think they meant it as a value judgment. Guessing it was a reference to the largest enrollment numbers.

I see. I don’t think that’s an accurate list of the biggest middle schools, so it was confusing. Not important though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, interesting that the folks who say Maury is increasingly sending kids to E-H appear to be right! 27 kids went from Maury to E-H last year?? Only 12 from Payne though, which is interesting...

S-H has decent buy-in from across its feeders, if still quite Watkins slanted (27 L-T, 29 JOW, 56 Watkins). That's definitely a foundation to grow from though.

Jefferson... all the people claiming Brent families were going there in any kind of numbers? Not even a little. Sub-10. Wow.

Impressive for EH. The principal is really making and effort and it is paying off. I think Payne’s 5th grade class is a lot smaller so that may be close to the same percentage.

Maury loses about 1/3 of 4th graders to charters or moving. But most of the remaining 5th graders go on to EH (although a chunk do move or go private for MS.)

I don't know if it's bad lottery luck or was always the plan (obviously they say the latter now), but the L-T 4th grade is pretty big (larger than 3rd by a bit, which is unusual) and it seems like a sizeable chunk of the class (including some of the highest performers) are staying for next year with S-H as the plan. Definitely more than last year's 4th grade, so will be interesting to see how that pans out/if that is the beginning of a trend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, interesting that the folks who say Maury is increasingly sending kids to E-H appear to be right! 27 kids went from Maury to E-H last year?? Only 12 from Payne though, which is interesting...

S-H has decent buy-in from across its feeders, if still quite Watkins slanted (27 L-T, 29 JOW, 56 Watkins). That's definitely a foundation to grow from though.

Jefferson... all the people claiming Brent families were going there in any kind of numbers? Not even a little. Sub-10. Wow.

Current Payne 3rd and 5th grade parent here - class of 2022 at Payne was only maybe 17 kids - not because of exodus to charters, just a small grade. In general, Payne is a smaller school - only two classes per grade (except for ECE w/ 3 classes per grade) Current 5th grade class is over 40 kids and a good number of us will be at EH next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

thanks! wow great job SWWFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, interesting that the folks who say Maury is increasingly sending kids to E-H appear to be right! 27 kids went from Maury to E-H last year?? Only 12 from Payne though, which is interesting...

S-H has decent buy-in from across its feeders, if still quite Watkins slanted (27 L-T, 29 JOW, 56 Watkins). That's definitely a foundation to grow from though.

Jefferson... all the people claiming Brent families were going there in any kind of numbers? Not even a little. Sub-10. Wow.

Current Payne 3rd and 5th grade parent here - class of 2022 at Payne was only maybe 17 kids - not because of exodus to charters, just a small grade. In general, Payne is a smaller school - only two classes per grade (except for ECE w/ 3 classes per grade) Current 5th grade class is over 40 kids and a good number of us will be at EH next year.

Maury 5th parent here. Your 5th is the same size as ours! So you think at least 30 will go? I’m actually getting a little excited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, interesting that the folks who say Maury is increasingly sending kids to E-H appear to be right! 27 kids went from Maury to E-H last year?? Only 12 from Payne though, which is interesting...

S-H has decent buy-in from across its feeders, if still quite Watkins slanted (27 L-T, 29 JOW, 56 Watkins). That's definitely a foundation to grow from though.

Jefferson... all the people claiming Brent families were going there in any kind of numbers? Not even a little. Sub-10. Wow.

Impressive for EH. The principal is really making and effort and it is paying off. I think Payne’s 5th grade class is a lot smaller so that may be close to the same percentage.

Maury loses about 1/3 of 4th graders to charters or moving. But most of the remaining 5th graders go on to EH (although a chunk do move or go private for MS.)

I don't know if it's bad lottery luck or was always the plan (obviously they say the latter now), but the L-T 4th grade is pretty big (larger than 3rd by a bit, which is unusual) and it seems like a sizeable chunk of the class (including some of the highest performers) are staying for next year with S-H as the plan. Definitely more than last year's 4th grade, so will be interesting to see how that pans out/if that is the beginning of a trend.

Interest rates and WFH probably have something to do with it! Who wants to move when you have your home routine all set up and you have to pay BOTH higher prices and higher interest rates …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are Banneker kids coming from? (I’m lazy.)

Banneker Class of 26
14 from Deal
13 from SWW@FS
10 from SH
10 from Wells
14 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 168, so there are 107 other students, an average of 2.5 (and no more than 9) from each of 15 other DCPS schools and 27 charters.

Walls Class of 26
35 from Deal
16 from Hardy
26 from outside the audit
Audited enrollment was 158, so there are 81 other students, an average of 2.3 (and no more than 9) from each of 12 other DCPS schools and 23 charters.

I did check, and both schools had students from all five of the big DCPS middle schools (Deal, Hardy, SWW@FS, SH, and Wells), it’s just a question of whether the number was above or below the 10-student reporting threshold. And, obviously, a lot of other schools sent at least one student to each.

In what way are those “all five of the big DCPS middle schools”?

NP. I don't think they meant it as a value judgment. Guessing it was a reference to the largest enrollment numbers.

I see. I don’t think that’s an accurate list of the biggest middle schools, so it was confusing. Not important though.

I suppose what really matters is the number of 8th graders. The biggest 8th grade cohorts in the city are Deal (by far), then MacFarland, DCI, CHEC, Wells, Stuart-Hobson, Hardy, Kelly Miller, Hart, and Jefferson, Paul, Digital Pioneers, Eliot-Hine, Brookland, EL Haynes, KIPP AIM, and Johnson.