Richard Montgomery in lockdown?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you really think that having an SRO in the school would have made a difference here? What do you base that on?

Of course it would. In the old SRO program; the sros talked to kids. They knew the beefs. They often attended away games when they knew there were beefs between schools. A lot of times; just knowing the SRO you talk to every day, and who cares about you, is there, is enough to prevent a fight .

Elrich and MCPS are so dumb. CEOS now only respond to impose discipline. There is no preventive mechanism in place. Zero.

Add to it MCPS is thrilled there is one fewer set of outside eyes to see the violence that goes on.

Elrich should come and deal with these kids for a week, try to break up fights, deal with kids who are violent.

They think Restorative Justice will reduce violence, and sitting together in a circle sharing feelings is going to help them.

CEOs are indeed reactive. MCPS thinks RJ is being proactive.

Haha.. jokes on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do any of you really think that having an SRO in the school would have made a difference here? What do you base that on?

Of course it would. In the old SRO program; the sros talked to kids. They knew the beefs. They often attended away games when they knew there were beefs between schools. A lot of times; just knowing the SRO you talk to every day, and who cares about you, is there, is enough to prevent a fight .

Elrich and MCPS are so dumb. CEOS now only respond to impose discipline. There is no preventive mechanism in place. Zero.

Add to it MCPS is thrilled there is one fewer set of outside eyes to see the violence that goes on.

THIS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do any of you really think that having an SRO in the school would have made a difference here? What do you base that on?

Of course it would. In the old SRO program; the sros talked to kids. They knew the beefs. They often attended away games when they knew there were beefs between schools. A lot of times; just knowing the SRO you talk to every day, and who cares about you, is there, is enough to prevent a fight .

Elrich and MCPS are so dumb. CEOS now only respond to impose discipline. There is no preventive mechanism in place. Zero.

Add to it MCPS is thrilled there is one fewer set of outside eyes to see the violence that goes on.

Elrich should come and deal with these kids for a week, try to break up fights, deal with kids who are violent.

They think Restorative Justice will reduce violence, and sitting together in a circle sharing feelings is going to help them.

CEOs are indeed reactive. MCPS thinks RJ is being proactive.

Haha.. jokes on us.

Joke’s on our kids. They are the ones who suffer. Black, Brown, White, Asian. All of them. While our political leaders push their progressive agenda, our kids deal with the unfortunate consequences.

[Anonymous]

The CEO for RM is responsible for RM and all its feeder schools, and floats between them. Plus maybe another high school? I attended a safety presentation for the school and he gave an overview of his job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CEO for RM is responsible for RM and all its feeder schools, and floats between them. Plus maybe another high school? I attended a safety presentation for the school and he gave an overview of his job.

Ridiculous. Previously, we had an SRO for our MS and another SRO for our high school. Both were wonderful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CEO for RM is responsible for RM and all its feeder schools, and floats between them. Plus maybe another high school? I attended a safety presentation for the school and he gave an overview of his job.

No, there is one CEO per each HS cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CEO for RM is responsible for RM and all its feeder schools, and floats between them. Plus maybe another high school? I attended a safety presentation for the school and he gave an overview of his job.

Ridiculous. Previously, we had an SRO for our MS and another SRO for our high school. Both were wonderful.

There were 26 SROs, one per each high school/alternative school. Not at middle schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CEO for RM is responsible for RM and all its feeder schools, and floats between them. Plus maybe another high school? I attended a safety presentation for the school and he gave an overview of his job.

No, there is one CEO per each HS cluster.

They are very understaffed. The policy change took away what many of them loved -- relationship building and actually helping kids. Now they just arrest them.

So yes, several CEOs are covering more than one high school. It's a complete mess and a waste of valuable talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CEO for RM is responsible for RM and all its feeder schools, and floats between them. Plus maybe another high school? I attended a safety presentation for the school and he gave an overview of his job.

No, there is one CEO per each HS cluster.

They are very understaffed. The policy change took away what many of them loved -- relationship building and actually helping kids. Now they just arrest them.

So yes, several CEOs are covering more than one high school. It's a complete mess and a waste of valuable talent.

That probably also happens whenever a CEO is out sick or on vacation or other leave, so between the shortages and regular leave, I'd guess they are often covering multiple clusters. I think the old SRO model had one dedicated SRO per HS, plus an additional one (or more?) that covered the cluster middle schools and ES. They didn't do much in the ES, but did work with the safety patrols and were available on call and close by (at the MS) in case something came up. My little kids knew the SRO from the safety patrol program, and they maybe also did a talk once or twice about some safety issue for the kids.
The whole goal of the SRO program was to allow them to know the kids and the community -- teachers and staff as well as students. That way, if something were brewing that a teacher or student overheard, they could say something like "you didn't hear it from me, but I heard this kid threaten that kid and say something was going down at the game tonight..." The schools would often use their own SRO for things like games and dances, but then also let their SRO find additional officers if they wanted deeper coverage -- so the SRO could pull in the SROs working the cluster middle school, or someone from the SRO program at another HS -- all of whom had been trained to work with kids, and maybe had some ffamiliarity with the specific kids involved. I don't think the CEO program has as much depth.
I do think that the SRO program could have been better implemented, with more training (which the officers would have appreciated) and more opportunities for the SROs to interact with the youth when they weren't in trouble (which, again, the officers really wanted and was part of the original plan for the program).

[Anonymous]

The old SRO program was a model program and Elrich and the schools wrecked it. SRO went through a rigorous screening process and had an additional 40 hours of annual training on things like adolescent development, crisis intervention, deescalation, and more. They were the best of the best.

Look at the police response yesterday . They had to use more police because they apparently haven’t caught the kids yet and there is still a threat. And there were state police there, which means Rockville city doesn’t have enough cops, and I am sure those state troopers don’t have SRO training.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have any further information from the PTSA meeting last night about the incident? I couldn't log in. They didn't send the passcode out until like half past the hour after the meeting started, and I didn't see the email in time.

any further info about what happened other than what was sent out in the email from the Principal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The old SRO program was a model program and Elrich and the schools wrecked it. SRO went through a rigorous screening process and had an additional 40 hours of annual training on things like adolescent development, crisis intervention, deescalation, and more. They were the best of the best.

Look at the police response yesterday . They had to use more police because they apparently haven’t caught the kids yet and there is still a threat. And there were state police there, which means Rockville city doesn’t have enough cops, and I am sure those state troopers don’t have SRO training.

How is this possible? They must be students. Doesn’t MCPS have their info?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any further information from the PTSA meeting last night about the incident? I couldn't log in. They didn't send the passcode out until like half past the hour after the meeting started, and I didn't see the email in time.

any further info about what happened other than what was sent out in the email from the Principal?

They didn’t discuss too many specifics of what happened on Friday other than give the timeline and that they are conducting an investigation. All we know is that RM students let in Gaithersburg students prior to lunch, and an altercation broke out. A student reported possibly seeing a gun (police are trying to confirm whether it was a gun in the picture they have), and the principal called for a lockdown.
Lots of questions came up from parents that were left unanswered. Many people brought up metal detectors, ID badges and open lunch.
We were told they are going to review the questions and will also be sending out a survey on Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any further information from the PTSA meeting last night about the incident? I couldn't log in. They didn't send the passcode out until like half past the hour after the meeting started, and I didn't see the email in time.

any further info about what happened other than what was sent out in the email from the Principal?

They didn’t discuss too many specifics of what happened on Friday other than give the timeline and that they are conducting an investigation. All we know is that RM students let in Gaithersburg students prior to lunch, and an altercation broke out. A student reported possibly seeing a gun (police are trying to confirm whether it was a gun in the picture they have), and the principal called for a lockdown.
Lots of questions came up from parents that were left unanswered. Many people brought up metal detectors, ID badges and open lunch.
We were told they are going to review the questions and will also be sending out a survey on Friday.

If you are a member of the RM PTSA Facebook group, the slides from last night's meeting are posted as well as a link to the survey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any further information from the PTSA meeting last night about the incident? I couldn't log in. They didn't send the passcode out until like half past the hour after the meeting started, and I didn't see the email in time.

any further info about what happened other than what was sent out in the email from the Principal?

They didn’t discuss too many specifics of what happened on Friday other than give the timeline and that they are conducting an investigation. All we know is that RM students let in Gaithersburg students prior to lunch, and an altercation broke out. A student reported possibly seeing a gun (police are trying to confirm whether it was a gun in the picture they have), and the principal called for a lockdown.
Lots of questions came up from parents that were left unanswered. Many people brought up metal detectors, ID badges and open lunch.
We were told they are going to review the questions and will also be sending out a survey on Friday.

If you are a member of the RM PTSA Facebook group, the slides from last night's meeting are posted as well as a link to the survey.

oh thanks. will check it out.