On the “Catholic/conservative” scale, where is Villanova?

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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is probably more Catholic and conservative than BC, but a bit less than Notre Dame.

OP: Why would your son reject Notre Dame ? Does he envision ND as being too Catholic or too strict ?

I visited ND about 18 months ago. Very attractive students, beautiful campus, kind people, but would not be a good fit for a partier.

too catholic; too conservative; too remote; too cold; too insular; too "I don't want to be around anyone I know who goes there"

OP, from all of your comments I don't think a Catholic university is a good fit for your child. Look elsewhere; these schools are not going to change for you.

Yeah, I think the OP will be hugely disappointed to learn that BC, while Jesuit, is still very much a Catholic school.

[Anonymous]

Joe Biden is Catholic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here to tell you that Notre Dame is A-OK for partiers!

Seriously! You've never heard the statement "Notre Dame is a drinking school with a Catholic problem"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Villanova is probably more Catholic and conservative than BC, but a bit less than Notre Dame.

OP: Why would your son reject Notre Dame ? Does he envision ND as being too Catholic or too strict ?

I visited ND about 18 months ago. Very attractive students, beautiful campus, kind people, but would not be a good fit for a partier.

too catholic; too conservative; too remote; too cold; too insular; too "I don't want to be around anyone I know who goes there"

Sounds like a real prize.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If he digs BC, the right "likely" school is Marquette, not Nova.

Another good match for a BC likely is Santa Clara (as a PP noted - this is not speaking in terms of admission but on Catholic/conservative scale)

I also agree with PP who said Jesuit schools (like Georgetown, BC, Santa Clara, various Loyola-*) are quite different than other Catholic universities. They have great communities that foster lover of learning, investing in on-campus inclusivity, and giving back to society. Both Catholics and non-Catholics thrive.

...you think that doesn't exist at other schools? What a bizarre post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If he digs BC, the right "likely" school is Marquette, not Nova.

Interested in your rationale. I think all three have a lot in common and any student who likes one would likely like the others. But overall, I'd say Nova and BC are much more similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If he digs BC, the right "likely" school is Marquette, not Nova.

Another good match for a BC likely is Santa Clara (as a PP noted - this is not speaking in terms of admission but on Catholic/conservative scale)

I also agree with PP who said Jesuit schools (like Georgetown, BC, Santa Clara, various Loyola-*) are quite different than other Catholic universities. They have great communities that foster lover of learning, investing in on-campus inclusivity, and giving back to society. Both Catholics and non-Catholics thrive.

...you think that doesn't exist at other schools? What a bizarre post.

other Catholic colleges I mean

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Villanova is probably more Catholic and conservative than BC, but a bit less than Notre Dame.

OP: Why would your son reject Notre Dame ? Does he envision ND as being too Catholic or too strict ?

I visited ND about 18 months ago. Very attractive students, beautiful campus, kind people, but would not be a good fit for a partier.

too catholic; too conservative; too remote; too cold; too insular; too "I don't want to be around anyone I know who goes there"

OP, from all of your comments I don't think a Catholic university is a good fit for your child. Look elsewhere; these schools are not going to change for you.

Yeah, I think the OP will be hugely disappointed to learn that BC, while Jesuit, is still very much a Catholic school.

every pp here to the contrary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If he digs BC, the right "likely" school is Marquette, not Nova.

Another good match for a BC likely is Santa Clara (as a PP noted - this is not speaking in terms of admission but on Catholic/conservative scale)

I also agree with PP who said Jesuit schools (like Georgetown, BC, Santa Clara, various Loyola-*) are quite different than other Catholic universities. They have great communities that foster lover of learning, investing in on-campus inclusivity, and giving back to society. Both Catholics and non-Catholics thrive.

...you think that doesn't exist at other schools? What a bizarre post.

you understand that you add nothing to the conversation, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If kid wouldn't attend ND if free b/c it's too conservative, they should not apply to Villanova or any Catholic University including BC.

BC is Jesuit. We're catholic in name only and DS, who is socially more liberal, liked everything about BC.
I wouldn't lump Jesuit in the Catholic bin.

Jesuits are Catholic. If OP is so turned off by Catholicism, that they wouldn't go to ND for free, I think any Catholic institution is a bad fit.

Well said!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is a junior, "average smart kid" (1400/3.9). We met with the school college counselor this week, and she said that based on what she saw in the early round, Villanova would be a low reach for him - by comparison, she said Lehigh and Colgate are targets. (He's an unhooked majority kid who wants to study business.) So unless you are someone who is competitive for T10 schools, I wouldn't call Villanova a safety.

northeastern > colgate > lehigh > villanova > fordham

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here to tell you that Notre Dame is A-OK for partiers!

Seriously! You've never heard the statement "Notre Dame is a drinking school with a Catholic problem"?

Lol I never heard that. And yes as the mom to a student who learned how to drink at ND, I agree that it is a fun party school...but with smart kids who work just as hard as they party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a junior, "average smart kid" (1400/3.9). We met with the school college counselor this week, and she said that based on what she saw in the early round, Villanova would be a low reach for him - by comparison, she said Lehigh and Colgate are targets. (He's an unhooked majority kid who wants to study business.) So unless you are someone who is competitive for T10 schools, I wouldn't call Villanova a safety.

northeastern > colgate > lehigh > villanova > fordham

That's what I thought too (although he has no interest in Northeastern.) She said Villanova turned down some really strong students in the early round.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If kid wouldn't attend ND if free b/c it's too conservative, they should not apply to Villanova or any Catholic University including BC.

BC is Jesuit. We're catholic in name only and DS, who is socially more liberal, liked everything about BC.
I wouldn't lump Jesuit in the Catholic bin.

Jesuits are Catholic. If OP is so turned off by Catholicism, that they wouldn't go to ND for free, I think any Catholic institution is a bad fit.

signed, a Catholic (who doesn't understand Jesuits)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If he digs BC, the right "likely" school is Marquette, not Nova.

Interested in your rationale. I think all three have a lot in common and any student who likes one would likely like the others. But overall, I'd say Nova and BC are much more similar.

More focus among the student body on doing good at BC and Marquette; more focus on doing well at Nova. Marquette also is a much likelier admit than the other two.