Capital Orange Parents - If you could do it all over again

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Anonymous wrote:It tougher with parental egos.

This. There are a handful on each team who think they deserve better and won’t stop at any cost to get their DDs moved. Good luck with that.

I don't think they'll hang around until Summer tournaments or tryouts. I have an older CLC DD and the rumor is there will be several Orange 25 and 26 parents who push their DDs to leave for other "better" teams after American Select and varsity teams are announced this year. Sounds like some kids accepted and are hangin' on to use those coach ties. Really sad for girls who didn't make Orange and really wanted to.

Curious as to what would be better after reading these replys...go to M&D or Heros or Skywalkers? You are not making the A team there either. Go to Pride? Go to new Stars program? Just not sure what the alternative is.

Confirmed. At least one cap orange staying to make AS and then hitting the gas to play elsewhere. Hope they get called out. Not fair for girls who would like to play for cap orange.

Just one? I’ve heard at least two are leaving right before summer season (and after a variety of select teams are announced). Really crappy. Hopefully those slots will be filled with deserving girls who appreciate playing for O.

Still don't understand where "elsewhere" is? If they are on cap orange they aren't making maryland teams.

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“I’ve heard” “confirmed”

Are there detectives reading their daughters text messages?

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Anonymous wrote:This chain is utterly clueless - entertaining, yes, but still clueless. You and your daughter are her main recruiter. And no, five years ago, it was not just mid-atlantic D1 recruiting pool. Pull up any top D1 roster and you'll see kids from all over. CLC is a good program, and some of the Pride years are good as well. Your daughter just has to be in the right tournaments but then you have to go beyond that. Do the homework. What type of school does she want? What does she want to major in? The PP There are some great programs and a ton of better schools. Its all about what type of experience they want - not level of lacrosse play. Once they graduate from high school the secret no parent will share is that the bulk of their career is OVER. Not a bad thing, but a fact. Upperclassmen will dominate her first two years of college play, and assuming uninjured and still interested, she might have the last two years of college or maybe 20-24 match in total. Stop thinking about this solely in terms of lacrosse, and start thinking experience and work-related. Healthier for you and your DD.

+1, I don’t think casting a wide net is the best approach to lacrosse recruiting. Your net should be as wide as the schools you would want to attend for reasons outside of lacrosse. There may be a school or two that approaches your DD for lacrosse she never considered that offers the complete package of academics, size, location + lacrosse, but I think this will be the exception and not the rule if your DD has already identified schools that fit her ideal profile. Could your DD see herself at the school she chooses w/o lacrosse. This is the key question to ask. Settling for a school because of lacrosse generally does not turn out well.

+100. If readers were really on their toes they would look at the the 2019, 2020 and 2021 classes of all these club programs - like CLC, Pride, Metro, M&D, etc., and see just how many of them were still playing regardless of whether they were on CLC Blue, CLC Orange, M&D Black or M&D Red, etc. Once you have that list built, then go into the stats of those girls and see how many matches they've played in. (Hint: You can find this on the roster tab under stats and then look for the individual girls.) You will see very quickly just how few are still on a roster after two years of college ball, and even fewer are seeing meaningful minutes. The PP is spot-on. Pick a school that will fit them academically and one that they would want to get up and go to class without lacrosse. Do the research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This chain is utterly clueless - entertaining, yes, but still clueless. You and your daughter are her main recruiter. And no, five years ago, it was not just mid-atlantic D1 recruiting pool. Pull up any top D1 roster and you'll see kids from all over. CLC is a good program, and some of the Pride years are good as well. Your daughter just has to be in the right tournaments but then you have to go beyond that. Do the homework. What type of school does she want? What does she want to major in? The PP There are some great programs and a ton of better schools. Its all about what type of experience they want - not level of lacrosse play. Once they graduate from high school the secret no parent will share is that the bulk of their career is OVER. Not a bad thing, but a fact. Upperclassmen will dominate her first two years of college play, and assuming uninjured and still interested, she might have the last two years of college or maybe 20-24 match in total. Stop thinking about this solely in terms of lacrosse, and start thinking experience and work-related. Healthier for you and your DD.

+1, I don’t think casting a wide net is the best approach to lacrosse recruiting. Your net should be as wide as the schools you would want to attend for reasons outside of lacrosse. There may be a school or two that approaches your DD for lacrosse she never considered that offers the complete package of academics, size, location + lacrosse, but I think this will be the exception and not the rule if your DD has already identified schools that fit her ideal profile. Could your DD see herself at the school she chooses w/o lacrosse. This is the key question to ask. Settling for a school because of lacrosse generally does not turn out well.

+100. If readers were really on their toes they would look at the the 2019, 2020 and 2021 classes of all these club programs - like CLC, Pride, Metro, M&D, etc., and see just how many of them were still playing regardless of whether they were on CLC Blue, CLC Orange, M&D Black or M&D Red, etc. Once you have that list built, then go into the stats of those girls and see how many matches they've played in. (Hint: You can find this on the roster tab under stats and then look for the individual girls.) You will see very quickly just how few are still on a roster after two years of college ball, and even fewer are seeing meaningful minutes. The PP is spot-on. Pick a school that will fit them academically and one that they would want to get up and go to class without lacrosse. Do the research.

I would love to see club stats for % of commits that play all 4 years at each level. All of these committed stats mean a lot less if the girl transfers or quits after her freshman year.

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wow, you have way too much time on your hands to even think about tracking stats on whether or not a young lady finishes her college career. And if you find that some don't, what does that tell you. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Because chances are you have no clue as to WHY they chose not to play anymore. Maybe its because of playing time, but maybe its because of some other reason. Good luck figuring that out.

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Throw in burnout from having to play year round since they were 6 just to be able to play in college!

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PP, who answered yes.. are you still there or has you DD graduated? I’d say 2025 and 2026 is too early to tell, and Orange is better then the local teams you mentioned.

Ok. Capital Orange is not better than all local teams mentioned (and not mentioned). Lets remember that at the 25 level Cap Orange team lost to YJ Mid-Atlantic which didnt' exist 18 months prior.

Oh Please! The YJMA 25 team got lucky 1 game.
Look at them now. Their A Team is ranked 147 and their B team is ranked 196.
Capital 25 orange is ranked 80.

Don’t even try to compare a low tier club like YJMA to an established proven club like Capital. They are not even close and never will be.

I’m sure they played older girls in the team in order to win. They always pull that

As far as Capital Orange vs. Pride Black, here are my two cents: yes, Pride Black is better, but Capital Orange recruits just as well if not better. Think about it, from my understanding Price 24 has six committees and Capital Orange has eight. A team that is better should be found better at recruiting

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Anonymous wrote:wow, you have way too much time on your hands to even think about tracking stats on whether or not a young lady finishes her college career. And if you find that some don't, what does that tell you. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Because chances are you have no clue as to WHY they chose not to play anymore. Maybe its because of playing time, but maybe its because of some other reason. Good luck figuring that out.

Wrong. If one or two stop playing that's one thing, but if you're talking 1/4 + of CLC blue or M&D black, it definitely suggests that this is more than simple burnout. Again, you're not trying to draw definitive conclusions but you are trying to identify patterns, and the pattern is there for those that care to look. Totally get that there are exceptions to every rule, but facts are stubborn.

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Anonymous wrote:“I’ve heard” “confirmed”

Are there detectives reading their daughters text messages?

Straight from the horse’s mouth. Both daughters and parents run their mouths…sometimes to people they don’t realize are more connected then they realize in the lacrosse world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“I’ve heard” “confirmed”

Are there detectives reading their daughters text messages?

Straight from the horse’s mouth. Both daughters and parents run their mouths…sometimes to people they don’t realize are more connected then they realize in the lacrosse world.

This happens more than most think. Recent events where this fits.

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Anonymous wrote:If you could do it all over again would you have chosen an A team at another club (MC Elite, Pride, VA Metro etc) over Capital Orange?

In this area, during this time period? Not a chance. We would absolutely pick Capital Orange again. In the last month alone, Capital 2024 Orange players committed to Hopkins, Berkeley, and Bucknell. Those are the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:If you could do it all over again would you have chosen an A team at another club (MC Elite, Pride, VA Metro etc) over Capital Orange?

In this area, during this time period? Not a chance. We would absolutely pick Capital Orange again. In the last month alone, Capital 2024 Orange players committed to Hopkins, Berkeley, and Bucknell. Those are the facts.

A summary of 2024 placements for CLC Blue, Orange, Pride and Other would be helpful for this discussion.

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Someone do an audit of NOVA girls playing D1 over the past 5 years. You will be surprised at the very little “impact players” to come out of this region. It is all about having fun and getting a great education.

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Here you go, proof is in the pudding. Go to Orange, go to Maryland, or go farther south to play. You will get better results

3D = 2
Capital Blue = 20
Capital Orange = 8
Cavaliers = 10
Pride = 7
VA Metro = 2
YJ MA = 3
YJ South = 12

State Previous School Club Pos Div College
VA Woodgrove 3D D D2 UVA Wise
VA Riverside 3D G D1 Manhattan
MD Stone Ridge School Capital Blue M D1 Denver
MD Holton-Arms School Capital Blue M D1 Princeton
MD Bullis School Capital Blue M D1 Vanderbilt
MD St Johns College Capital Blue M D1 Penn
MD Good Counsel Capital Blue M D1 Stony Brook
MD St Johns College Capital Blue M D1 Yale
MD Stone Ridge School Capital Blue M D1 Notre Dame
MD St Johns College Capital Blue A D1 Massachusetts
VA Collegiate School Capital Blue M D1 Syracuse
VA Woodson Capital Blue D D1 James Madison
VA St Stephens & St Agnes Capital Blue M D1 Virginia
VA Kettle Run Capital Blue G D1 James Madison
VA Battlefield Capital Blue G D1 Connecticut
VA Maret School Capital Blue D D1 Louisville
VA St Stephens & St Agnes Capital Blue M D1 Cornell
VA Georgetown Visitation Capital Blue A D1 Villanova
VA Bishop Ireton Capital Blue M D1 Colorado
VA Centreville Capital Blue D D1 Pittsburgh
VA Bishop Ireton Capital Blue D D1 St Josephs (PA)
VA Bishop Ireton Capital Blue M D1 Fairfield
DC Maret School Capital Orange M D1 California
MD Stone Ridge School Capital Orange G D1 Butler
MD Bullis School Capital Orange D D1 Johns Hopkins
VA St Stephens & St Agnes Capital Orange A D1 Mercer
VA Patriot Capital Orange A D1 Campbell
VA Robinson Capital Orange A D1 High Point
VA Robinson Capital Orange M D1 Butler
VA St Stephens & St Agnes Capital Orange D D1 Howard (DC)
VA St Annes-Belfield Cavalier D D1 Southern California
VA St Annes-Belfield Cavalier M D1 Stanford
VA Monticello Cavalier G D1 Mercer
VA St Annes-Belfield Cavalier D D1 Old Dominion
VA Western Albemarle Cavalier A D1 Delaware
VA Covenant School Cavalier G D1 Liberty
VA Mountain View Cavalier D D1 Towson
VA Western Albemarle Cavalier D D1 High Point
VA St Annes-Belfield Cavaliers A D1 Virginia Tech
VA St Annes-Belfield Cavaliers M D1 Penn
VA Langley PRIDE D D1 Virginia Tech
VA Georgetown Visitation PRIDE G D1 Virginia Tech
VA Paul VI PRIDE A D1 Arizona State
VA West Potomac PRIDE A Club UNC-Charlotte
VA Hanover PRIDE G D1 George Washington
VA McLean PRIDE M D1 William & Mary
VA Lightridge PRIDE A D3 Kenyon
VA West Potomac VA Metro D D1 George Mason
VA Centreville VA Metro M D1 Towson
VA Woodson VA One M D3 Roanoke
VA Westfield YJ Mid-Atl A D1 Duquesne
VA Riverbend YJ Mid-Atlantic A D3 Shenandoah
VA Patriot YJ-Mid Atlantic D D3 Roanoke
VA Collegiate School YJ South M Club Rhode Island
VA Trinity Episcopal YJ South A D1 George Mason
VA Trinity Episcopal YJ South D D1 George Mason
VA Hidden Valley YJ-South M D1 Virginia Tech
VA Hanover YJ-South A D1 VCU
VA Atlee YJ-South M D1 James Madison
VA Cape Henry Collegiate YJ-South M D1 VCU
VA Glen Allen YJ-South G D1 Elon
VA Douglas Freeman (5A) YJ-South M D1 Longwood
VA Patrick Henry Roanoke YJ-South M Club Rhode Island
VA Rockbridge County YJ-South D D2 Florida Southern
VA Salem YJ-South M D1 Longwood

[Anonymous]

If I put this much effort into my job I would be CEO.