Fight ends Gaithersburg High School football game

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My middle class kids did fine during lowdown. These are poor fatherless POC kids who have no control over their behavior. Poor babies!

Such a generalization. It's only 69% of black children and 52% of latino children born to unmarried women:
https://www.childtrends.org/publications/dramatic-increase-in-percentage-of-births-outside-marriage-among-whites-hispanics-and-women-with-higher-education-levels

That's a whole lot of children who _are_ growing up with a father in the picture.

It doesn't have to be about being fatherless. That's too simplistic. It usually has to do with family challenges, yes, but those could be a parent illness, another sibling with significant mental health challenges, loss of job/income, parental substance misuse, child abuse, etc. Higher income helps mitigate the damage these family problems cause. So you don't see it as often in higher income families. But you still see it.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwest has an Instagram account- run by the school- that shows a picture of the scoreboard with northwest 14, Gaithersburg 0 and mentions the game was called for fighting but NW won. And their Twitter account tweeted the same picture of the scoreboard.

Total lack of class.

Wow, that shows a complete lack of remorse. They should be ashamed, not bragging that they "actually" won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

Maybe but let's also be honest - football is a violent sport which fosters violent behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

Maybe but let's also be honest - football is a violent sport which fosters violent behavior.

The pp was discussing their experiences with out of control behavior in elementary classrooms. I don't thinknthere are any elementary level football programs in mcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

So what discpline will MCPS give her? Restorative justice? Will that involve sitting down with the police officer she assaulted and have the two of them work something out? Share thoughts and feelings? See how they both contributed to the situation?

It sounds flippant but I am serious. My child was assaulted four times at school last year, and he did these restorative justice sessions. Which I don't mind, and feel the assistant principals handled them pretty well. It helped both kids humanize the other. That's why I want to see the girl sit down with the cop. With the anti-police atmosphere we have right now in schools, I am willing to bet she thought it was OK to assault a cop. The explicit message in MCPS is that police are bad and should not be on school grounds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MC is in serious decline

It's a result of housing segregation... The county politics and NIMBYism is concentrating poverty and related issues based on family income.

Let's stay on topic. You know it's all about loss of socialization skills from being locked down for a year.

Schools have been back in person for over a year.

And that doesn't mean they suddenly recover from a year of lockdown. These kids are ruined.

Give it a rest. Fights like these have been going on for decades.

[Anonymous]

Kids who can't participate in regular school shouldn't be in regular school. They should take all the kids who can't cope and all the SROs and all the focus teachers etc. and have them all in separate schools, so the rest of the kids can focus on learning and the kids with issues could get their issues addressed. i think that would be better for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

So what discpline will MCPS give her? Restorative justice? Will that involve sitting down with the police officer she assaulted and have the two of them work something out? Share thoughts and feelings? See how they both contributed to the situation?

It sounds flippant but I am serious. My child was assaulted four times at school last year, and he did these restorative justice sessions. Which I don't mind, and feel the assistant principals handled them pretty well. It helped both kids humanize the other. That's why I want to see the girl sit down with the cop. With the anti-police atmosphere we have right now in schools, I am willing to bet she thought it was OK to assault a cop. The explicit message in MCPS is that police are bad and should not be on school grounds.

It was a brawl. 2 people were fighting and when the cop tried to breaking up she turned around and started swinging at him. I'm sure she wasn't thinking, "police have been instrumental in continuing institutionalized racial injustice for far too long!"
She was swinging because she probably didn't get time outs on the stairs to cool off before naming and discussing her emotions growing up.

BTW, you can refuse the restorative justice bs the schools are trying to implement. My dc has been attacked at school last year and he just said No, which I support. It's not his job to parent his peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

So what discpline will MCPS give her? Restorative justice? Will that involve sitting down with the police officer she assaulted and have the two of them work something out? Share thoughts and feelings? See how they both contributed to the situation?

It sounds flippant but I am serious. My child was assaulted four times at school last year, and he did these restorative justice sessions. Which I don't mind, and feel the assistant principals handled them pretty well. It helped both kids humanize the other. That's why I want to see the girl sit down with the cop. With the anti-police atmosphere we have right now in schools, I am willing to bet she thought it was OK to assault a cop. The explicit message in MCPS is that police are bad and should not be on school grounds.

It was a brawl. 2 people were fighting and when the cop tried to breaking up she turned around and started swinging at him. I'm sure she wasn't thinking, "police have been instrumental in continuing institutionalized racial injustice for far too long!"
She was swinging because she probably didn't get time outs on the stairs to cool off before naming and discussing her emotions growing up.

BTW, you can refuse the restorative justice bs the schools are trying to implement. My dc has been attacked at school last year and he just said No, which I support. It's not his job to parent his peers.

Thank you for the information on declining the RJ. My son's mouth started several of the fights. I thought it was a good lesson for him afterward.

I go to all the football games at my kids' schools. And in the past two years, I have watched students taunt and badmouth the two police officers at the games (usually dealing with traffic). Students are definitely getting the message at schools that cops are bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

So what discpline will MCPS give her? Restorative justice? Will that involve sitting down with the police officer she assaulted and have the two of them work something out? Share thoughts and feelings? See how they both contributed to the situation?

It sounds flippant but I am serious. My child was assaulted four times at school last year, and he did these restorative justice sessions. Which I don't mind, and feel the assistant principals handled them pretty well. It helped both kids humanize the other. That's why I want to see the girl sit down with the cop. With the anti-police atmosphere we have right now in schools, I am willing to bet she thought it was OK to assault a cop. The explicit message in MCPS is that police are bad and should not be on school grounds.

This is a problem. Our political leaders have sent this message loud and clear. I’m looking at you, Will Jawando.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids who can't participate in regular school shouldn't be in regular school. They should take all the kids who can't cope and all the SROs and all the focus teachers etc. and have them all in separate schools, so the rest of the kids can focus on learning and the kids with issues could get their issues addressed. i think that would be better for everyone.

That would not be equitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

So what discpline will MCPS give her? Restorative justice? Will that involve sitting down with the police officer she assaulted and have the two of them work something out? Share thoughts and feelings? See how they both contributed to the situation?

It sounds flippant but I am serious. My child was assaulted four times at school last year, and he did these restorative justice sessions. Which I don't mind, and feel the assistant principals handled them pretty well. It helped both kids humanize the other. That's why I want to see the girl sit down with the cop. With the anti-police atmosphere we have right now in schools, I am willing to bet she thought it was OK to assault a cop. The explicit message in MCPS is that police are bad and should not be on school grounds.

This is a problem. Our political leaders have sent this message loud and clear. I’m looking at you, Will Jawando.

Bingo! The county council has been behind a ton of the anti-police rhetoric in the county. I credit our officers for showing up and doing their jobs, especially since kids (and politicians who behave like kids) are so disrespectful toward them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher in MCPS who has seen my share of craziness in elementary classrooms. It's out of control at this point but I did attend a training on trauma two years ago that discussed the idea of intergenerational trauma. The idea being that trauma can be passed down over the generations impacting the children who might not have ever directly experienced trauma themselves. This link somewhat explains it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/intergenerational-trauma-5191638

I'm not excusing this mess and we need to do better but as someone on the front lines every day, I don't know how you go about solving these issues. More and more students are completely dysregulated and really don't have coping skills. They fly off the handle for the most minor things. Personally, I only have six years left until retirement and I cannot wait!

It's a problem that will be solved slowly over generations. In the meantime, throwing these violent thugs in with kids who's families don't have/condone violence is just bringing those kids down ans exposing them to trauma at school that they shouldn't be. It's shameful.
If a fight broke out between teachers in a classroom there would be interventions and trauma teams in place. But because it happened on a field with teenage boys It's no big deal, I guess.

One of the news videos showed a teenage looking girl fighting a police officer. This is shameful behavior that children shouldn't be exposed to.

So what discpline will MCPS give her? Restorative justice? Will that involve sitting down with the police officer she assaulted and have the two of them work something out? Share thoughts and feelings? See how they both contributed to the situation?

It sounds flippant but I am serious. My child was assaulted four times at school last year, and he did these restorative justice sessions. Which I don't mind, and feel the assistant principals handled them pretty well. It helped both kids humanize the other. That's why I want to see the girl sit down with the cop. With the anti-police atmosphere we have right now in schools, I am willing to bet she thought it was OK to assault a cop. The explicit message in MCPS is that police are bad and should not be on school grounds.

This is a problem. Our political leaders have sent this message loud and clear. I’m looking at you, Will Jawando.

Bingo! The county council has been behind a ton of the anti-police rhetoric in the county. I credit our officers for showing up and doing their jobs, especially since kids (and politicians who behave like kids) are so disrespectful toward them.

I know I mean sure they keep killing minorities on camera even but still....